(10-07-2020, 10:26 PM)loki Wrote: [ -> ]I like Schroder's fit, but I wish he were under contract for a few seasons instead of expiring. It's not hard to imagine him walking in free agency while we sit around waiting for Giannis to make his decision. If we're giving up #18 I would prefer someone like Aaron Gordon who at least has two years remaining.
I know you don’t want to hear it, but I think the length of Schroeder’s contract is probably one of the more attractive things about him from the Mavs’ perspective.
(10-07-2020, 04:54 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ] (10-07-2020, 01:52 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ] (10-07-2020, 12:25 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]Highlights for me.
Any notes from him on the draft?
[b]1. When does the offseason actually begin? [/b]Free agency was scheduled for Oct. 18, but that’s just 11 days away now and not going to happen. There isn’t a date set for it yet, but given the hopeful timeline for next season, sometime in November is the best educated guess to throw out there. What we do know is the NBA draft is scheduled for Nov. 18. Media interviews with draft prospects were conducted last week, and teams have been doing their due diligence on that front. -Saad
[b]2. How focused on the 2021 offseason is the Dallas front office?[/b] There won’t be a mega-signing this offseason destined to transform Dallas into something bandwagoners flock to. Next season could be. If Dallas insists on maximizing its chances of a superstar acquisition a year from now, it could come at the expense of next season’s team – which might be closer to title contention than you think. -Tim
[b]3. Which Mavericks trigger their player options? [/b]Tim Hardaway Jr. and his $18.9 million player option is the primary subject here. This is a generally weak free agency class, and Hardaway would be among the most coveted players at his position if he elected to test the waters. He’s also 28 years old, so the time to cash in is dwindling. But COVID-19 plays a role because of how it impacts the cap and how much teams have to dole out. The Mavericks have made it clear that they would like to have him back for the right price, but they can’t give him a hefty long-term deal because it limits their wallet for a desirable 2021 free agency. Willie Cauley-Stein also has a player option for $2.3 million. -Saad
[b]4. What do the Mavericks do with their two picks?[/b] The Mavericks front office is among the more trade-friendly groups in the NBA, but I believe the draft boards will have limited movement this year for Dallas. Because the draft class isn’t very strong at the top, unpredictability could rule the day and a player valued in the top-10 could fall to their pick at No. 18. The other selection is No. 31, acquired from the Warriors in a deal made four years ago. The top of the second round is where value picks like Jalen Brunson are made. -Saad
[b]5. Are the Mavericks properly valuing the No. 18 pick?[/b] In 2021 and 2023, the team’s top picks depart for New York. The middle of the first round isn’t where teams find guaranteed starters – especially this year, in a relatively weak draft class – but it could be the last chance Dallas has to acquire another high-potential youngster who could grow alongside its fledgling core. -Tim
That's pretty much all he says about the draft that I saw.
Sounds pretty good to me in terms of keeping the pick.
(10-07-2020, 04:54 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]Because the draft class isn’t very strong at the top, unpredictability could rule the day and a player valued in the top-10 could fall to their pick at No. 18.
I will keep beating this drum: almost NOTHING is going to go according to script with this draft. It is going to be FUN and WILD.
@"Scott41theMavs" you know I absolutely expect WCS to opt in, but I don’t know how you can be a fan of this team and think a healthy Powell won’t be given every possible opportunity to keep his job (unless he’s moved in a deal).
He’s one of the more veteran members of the team, widely recognized as a leader in the locker room. He is their chosen representative for the players association. The front office obviously Values him, since they gave him the contract.
Speaking of the contract, do you think they gave him that money to ride the bench? Contract offers come attached to roles.
I think WCS has a chance to move ahead of Boban pretty quickly, but it’s going to take him quite a while to nudge out Powell if he’s healthy, imo.
(10-07-2020, 10:39 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]@"Scott41theMavs" you know I absolutely expect WCS to opt in, but I don’t know how you can be a fan of this team and think a healthy Powell won’t be given every possible opportunity to keep his job (unless he’s moved in a deal).
He’s one of the more veteran members of the team, widely recognized as a leader in the locker room. He is their chosen representative for the players association. The front office obviously Values him, since they gave him the contract.
Speaking of the contract, do you think they gave him that money to ride the bench? Contract offers come attached to roles.
I think WCS has a chance to move ahead of Boban pretty quickly, but it’s going to take him quite a while to nudge out Powell if he’s healthy, imo.
I don't think it's reasonable to expect him to be healthy at the beginning of the year in a season projected to start in late January. His game depends on athleticism, and he's recovering from the most athletically devastating injury in sports.
The only way that damned contract extension can be justified pre-injury is if Powell is funneling over half of his contract to Dirk.
(10-07-2020, 10:37 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ] (10-07-2020, 04:54 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]Because the draft class isn’t very strong at the top, unpredictability could rule the day and a player valued in the top-10 could fall to their pick at No. 18.
I will keep beating this drum: almost NOTHING is going to go according to script with this draft. It is going to be FUN and WILD.
Only thing that terrifies me about that is if Toppin falls precipitously and we draft him. What a nightmare that would be. He's not going to be able to guard anyone in the L.
(10-07-2020, 10:31 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ] (10-07-2020, 10:26 PM)loki Wrote: [ -> ]I like Schroder's fit, but I wish he were under contract for a few seasons instead of expiring. It's not hard to imagine him walking in free agency while we sit around waiting for Giannis to make his decision. If we're giving up #18 I would prefer someone like Aaron Gordon who at least has two years remaining.
I know you don’t want to hear it, but I think the length of Schroeder’s contract is probably one of the more attractive things about him from the Mavs’ perspective.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Mavs front office sees it that way. It could pay off in a huge way, or more likely they will end up with no pick, no Schroder, and no Giannis.
With the whole league going for cap space (and no certainty of where the cap will even be set) I would focus on acquiring as much talent as possible, even if it involves long term salary. As long as the players are worth their contracts the Mavs can stay active in free agency through a sign and trade.
Yeah, if he’s not healthy, totally different story, @"Scott41theMavs". You might be right.
(10-07-2020, 10:48 PM)loki Wrote: [ -> ]It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Mavs front office sees it that way. It could pay off in a huge way, or more likely they will end up with no pick, no Schroder, and no Giannis.
With the whole league going for cap space (and no certainty of where the cap will even be set) I would focus on acquiring as much talent as possible, even if it involves long term salary. As long as the players are worth their contracts the Mavs can stay active in free agency through a sign and trade.
So, that’s possible, but on the other hand, signing a free agent isn’t the only way to use the space. I’m not sure it’s the way to go either, but in my internal dialogue about this, I just keep coming back to the thought that 2021 is probably their only shot at a cap space strategy for a long, long time.
If nothing else, they’ll have this new expiring contract (if that’s the way they go) to combine with THJ at next season’s trade deadline, which will be a time when quite a few teams will be trying to set up space for the following off season. This is exactly how they got Porzingis, and I can imagine how that would be a much more opportune time to take on the type of long term money you’re hoping they take. Could be much better options out there.
Or, even if they opt to go the FA route and strike out, there could potentially be opportunities to absorb contracts into their space from teams where these guys DO want to play, and THEY could be better than the players available in trade right now. Plus, as we’ve seen, performing that service for a team at the last minute usually comes with some sort of draft capital sweetener.
Bottom line for me is that 2021 is the path that provides the most options. If they get want they want in the meantime, I’m sure they’ll be all in, but it had better be GREAT.
I am all about addition without subtraction type of moves. What I mean is moves that allow us to improve but not give up to many assets.
First Move, I believe this is legal if we make this trade after the season. This would allow the Wolves to free up 15 Million dollars immediately
Trade 1
T-Wolves Receive - Courtney Lee + Cash
Mavericks Receive - James Johnson + 2021 2nd Round Pick protected
Trade 2
Pacers Receive - Justin Jackson
Mavericks Receive - Justin Holiday (Sign and Trade)
Trade 3
Bulls Receive - Delon Wright
Mavericks Receive - Thaddeus Young
Those 3 trades add 3 Wing defenders
The next thing i would do is try to move up in the draft into the top 12
Draft - Isaac Okoro
You Essentially add 4 wings to the mix with those deals without overpaying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZgmUrH8ev4
Resign Trey Burke
Resign MKG
(10-08-2020, 11:47 AM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]Not my Seth!
This proposal was just stupid... Curry is bringing exactly what we want. If I am moving him, I am moving him for a better player, not for freaking Ish Smith...
(10-08-2020, 11:59 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2020, 11:47 AM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]Not my Seth!
This proposal was just stupid... Curry is bringing exactly what we want. If I am moving him, I am moving him for a better player, not for freaking Ish Smith...
I would give them Curry and WCS and #18 for #9, Ish and Mo.
(10-08-2020, 11:47 AM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.bulletsforever.com/2020/10/6...-ish-smith
Not my Seth!
It is probably called Bullets forever, cause you have to shoot yourself in the head three times before you come up with such a trade idea.
Make it Brown Jr. + Bonga and we are listening. WTF do we want with Ish Smith and Mo Wagner.
Not sure if Boston sees Hayward in their plans moving forward or not, so this might be crazy. But, the more I think about it, the more I feel like he's a target the Mavs would absolutely get excited about.
- Positionally, he would fit well on the current roster
- Absolutely provides the secondary playmaker they want, if healthy
- HUGH expiring contract, so he keeps 2021 path alive
- could potentially be pretty high on their list of fall back options for the 2021 off season
Let's say they're into this, and let's say Boston wants to move on from him. What would it take to get the deal done, and do the Mavs have enough? If so, could they get it done without including THJ?
(10-08-2020, 12:24 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2020, 11:47 AM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.bulletsforever.com/2020/10/6...-ish-smith
Not my Seth!
It is probably called Bullets forever, cause you have to shoot yourself in the head three times before you come up with such a trade idea.
Make it Brown Jr. + Bonga and we are listening. WTF do we want with Ish Smith and Mo Wagner.
Well they want snipers and we have one so...
My trade of the day is Seth, Maxi and 18 plus 31 for Beal. I can dream too.
(10-08-2020, 12:25 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]If so, could they get it done without including THJ?
I don't think so. Kind of same problem as with Porter - his contract is too big and Boston will not take crap contracts like Powell in return. The window for such contracts was TDL, when we had Lee contract to play with.
(10-08-2020, 12:33 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]My trade of the day is Seth, Maxi and 18 plus 31 for Beal. I can dream too.
It doesn't work salary wise, you have to throw in Powell and Wright.
(10-08-2020, 12:36 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2020, 12:25 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]If so, could they get it done without including THJ?
I don't think so. Kind of same problem as with Porter - his contract is too big and Boston will not take crap contracts like Powell in return. The window for such contracts was TDL, when we had Lee contract to play with.
(10-08-2020, 12:33 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]My trade of the day is Seth, Maxi and 18 plus 31 for Beal. I can dream too.
It doesn't work salary wise, you have to throw in Powell and Wright.
Done, my make believe trade must be mathematically correct.
(10-08-2020, 12:11 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]I would give them Curry and WCS and #18 for #9, Ish and Mo.
Only if Vassell or Haliburton fall to #9, then I am IN.
(10-08-2020, 12:43 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2020, 12:11 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]I would give them Curry and WCS and #18 for #9, Ish and Mo.
Only if Vassell or Haliburton fall to #9, then I am IN.
Sorry in advance for my ignorance, but who is "Mo?"
(10-08-2020, 12:44 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2020, 12:43 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2020, 12:11 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]I would give them Curry and WCS and #18 for #9, Ish and Mo.
Only if Vassell or Haliburton fall to #9, then I am IN.
Sorry in advance for my ignorance, but who is "Mo?"
Moritz Wagner. More Germans for the Mavs. Bad thing is Giannis head butted him so...