What's that tattoo on Luka about?
imagine if Giannis signs here next year.....
(11-24-2020, 12:46 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]What's that tattoo on Luka about?
need Harrison Barnes back asap
Some random thoughts this morning...
The Johnson for Wright/Jackson deal with OKC and Detroit isn't official yet. Neither is the Ariza for Christian Wood deal that has to happen first in order for Detroit to send him to OKC.
I hadn't noticed this before, but Houston essentially traded Covington for Wood. Roco went to Portland for Ariza and 16 and a future pick and then Houston sent Ariza, 16 and a future pick to Detroit.
We don't have final numbers on Terry, WCS, Burke or Green yet. Green will be somewhere between $2.347mm and $2,816mm or 120% of the first number. I've presumed all along that Terry will get part of the MLE for more than 2 years (like Brunson). The exact amount isn't known because we don't know the structure of Burke's 3/$10 or WCS's 2/$8.2. Do those deals start small and have standard raises or start big and decline or did Dallas simply set an even number for each year.
Depending on how all of that works out, Dallas is somewhere between $5mm and $6mm under the tax. That means they could add the usual trade spread and bring back a more expensive player and stay under the tax. Johnson's $16.047mm deal could bring back a $21.147mm player and Dallas would stay a non-taxpaying team. BUT, if you do Johnson + Powell's combined $27mm, the allowable trade spread at 1.25% is $6.75mm and gets you to almost $34mm. That would put Dallas in the tax (which I presume to be a self-imposed limit to any potential wheeling and dealing this season).
I wonder what Atlanta does with $18mm if Sacramento matches the offer to Bogdanovic. They've got a pretty deep roster even without him. What would be more valuable, Johnson or a $16mm TPE if you traded him into that space?
I don't see Iwundu being the cut of the 16th player. He only counts as a minimum slot in his second year and you won't do much better with that slot. Unless there is another trade, I suspect Dallas is just giving JJB a $2.5mm gold watch.
Seth, Justin Jackson and Delon Wright had among the worst on-off ratings on the team last season at -2, -4.9 and -4.9 respectively. All three were positive on-court, but negative on-minus-off. Johnson isn't historically very good at this metric either, but Iwundu is. He might be a sneaky contributor to the bench mob. I'm guessing those two will fight for the minutes Jackson played last season. Richardson has been a positive in all but one of his pro seasons and all of his 3 seasons as a full time starter. He was +5 in his last season in Miami.
According to Bobby Karalla, Dallas could have scoree 2.3 pp100 less offensively and still have been the most efficient O in the league last year. But, if they had given up 2.3 pp100 less defensively, they would have been the 9th rated team defensively instead of 18th.
(11-24-2020, 08:52 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]I hadn't noticed this before, but Houston essentially traded Covington for Wood. Roco went to Portland for Ariza and 16 and a future pick and then Houston sent Ariza, 16 and a future pick to Detroit.
Looks like Harden and Westbrook will go to training camp. Harden may even sign his extension. I am basketball sad Houston got Wood and may keep Harden for this year.
(11-24-2020, 08:52 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]Some random thoughts this morning...
Another non Mav observation. Still waiting for final numbers, but bumber of teams currently in tax has increased substantially from last season. Miami, Minnesota, Portland and OKC were the only tax teams last season. Minnesota and OKC are out of tax, but Lakers, Clippers, Toronto, Houston, GSW, New Jersey, Philadelphia and several others are deep in the tax atm. Who knows, if some of them will be looking to cut their salaries by TDL
(11-24-2020, 09:53 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (11-24-2020, 08:52 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]Some random thoughts this morning...
Another non Mav observation. Still waiting for final numbers, but bumber of teams currently in tax has increased substantially from last season. Miami, Minnesota, Portland and OKC were the only tax teams last season. Minnesota and OKC are out of tax, but Lakers, Clippers, Toronto, Houston, GSW, New Jersey, Philadelphia and several others are deep in the tax atm. Who knows, if some of them will be looking to cut their salaries by TDL
With the cap lower than was expected, you’d think there would be a tipping point where it becomes difficult to get off of salary
(11-24-2020, 10:15 AM)Jason Terry Wrote: [ -> ]With the cap lower than was expected, you’d think there would be a tipping point where it becomes difficult to get off of salary
There is plenty of teams below tax. Mavs can take 6 mil more in a trade, as shown by Dan
(11-24-2020, 09:53 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (11-24-2020, 08:52 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]Some random thoughts this morning...
Another non Mav observation. Still waiting for final numbers, but bumber of teams currently in tax has increased substantially from last season. Miami, Minnesota, Portland and OKC were the only tax teams last season. Minnesota and OKC are out of tax, but Lakers, Clippers, Toronto, Houston, GSW, New Jersey, Philadelphia and several others are deep in the tax atm. Who knows, if some of them will be looking to cut their salaries by TDL
One possible reason is teams expect to be rescued by the escrow system. I can't recall where I read this, but my recollection is teams get a pro-rata reduction in the salary that counts against the tax depending on where the escrow number hits. Assuming I'm remembering this correctly, it means a team could be a few million over technically and end up a little under because BRI comes in less than anticipated and the actual salaries paid count less against the tax.
(11-24-2020, 10:18 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]One possible reason is teams expect to be rescued by the escrow system. I can't recall where I read this, but my recollection is teams get a pro-rata reduction in the salary that counts against the tax depending on where the escrow number hits. Assuming I'm remembering this correctly, it means a team could be a few million over technically and end up a little under because BRI comes in less than anticipated and the actual salaries paid count less against the tax.
That is correct. But it will be nothing easier for those teams next season. It will stil be repeater tax. Lakers example - Kuzma extension will kick in and so on.
(11-24-2020, 08:52 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]According to Bobby Karalla, Dallas could have scoree 2.3 pp100 less offensively and still have been the most efficient O in the league last year. But, if they had given up 2.3 pp100 less defensively, they would have been the 9th rated team defensively instead of 18th.
Reading this, I can see the Mavs thought process.
Wright+Jackson were essentially inconsequential players for the Mavs. At no point were they ever really apart of the core or the team success. They were flipped for exactly the kind of wildcard enforcer that makes teams think twice messing with you in James Johnson.
Johnson doesn't even have to be good here. Just a guy to knock others around and plays good defense. They then flipped Curry (who apparently was the weaker of the core rotation pieces according to the stats Dan pointed out) into the defensive wing we all craved. Richardson I hope makes a big impact.
Mavs should still try to look to upgrade THJ. I know he had a resurgence of a year, but if there ever was a time to sell high on him now's the time. I don't think his close to 40% 3pt shooting is sustainable, given that he's a career 34% from there.
(11-24-2020, 11:53 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]but if there ever was a time to sell high on him now's the time. I don't think his close to 40% 3pt shooting is sustainable, given that he's a career 34% from there.
I don't always like the "sell high" philosophy. Surely sometimes the better move is to "keep high". If THJ's year last year was a product of (1) playing with Luka, (2) mastering the run around screens and nail shots role that Killer has detailed, and (3) his own hard work to fit with Luka, then I think we actually need him. I remember the difference in how the starting unit operated as soon as Tim won the starting job. I'd only want to trade him if he brought back either a 3rd star or someone who could perform his role better than he can. Budy might come close to being both of those things. So, yes to upgrading Tim, but I don't think upgrading Tim would be easy.
(11-24-2020, 12:02 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]I don't always like the "sell high" philosophy. Surely sometimes the better move is to "keep high". If THJ's year last year was a product of (1) playing with Luka, (2) mastering the run around screens and nail shots role that Killer has detailed, and (3) his own hard work to fit with Luka, then I think we actually need him. I remember the difference in how the starting unit operated as soon as Tim won the starting job. I'd only want to trade him if he brought back either a 3rd star or someone who could perform his role better than he can. Budy might come close to being both of those things. So, yes to upgrading Tim, but I don't think upgrading Tim would be easy.
I see where you're coming from and generally I agree with you. But I think Hardaway is more likely to revert back to the mean than to stay where he is. The only reason I say that is because we saw in the bubble/playoffs Hardaway show signs of crashing back down to Earth (15ppg on 41/32/90 in the 8 seeding games; 18ppg on 42/35/73 in the playoffs).
Those numbers are closer to career Hardaway than the renewed version we saw in the regular season last year. I suppose the arguments against THJ crashing back down is that 1) Luka's gravity will still be there. 2) Carlisle will find a way to keep getting stuff from him.
But I don't know. THJ is one of those players that's a constant heat check, and I feel even moving him for a minor downgrade will actually be better in the long run. I think Buddy drastically increases this team's chances, and we'd be lucky to get him. Even if he has drama.
Yeah Buddy would be a huge get because he brings consistency in his game. He's money shooting every night. At a higher volume than THJ too.
I just don't see a deal ever working out for Sacramento tho. It has to be THJ and Powell in order for the Mavs to consider putting someone like Brunson in it. THJ was very good. So it's hard to justify paying alot for an upgrade of a similar player that has some serious flaws too.
There are better players in the world than THJ, but the fascination with moving him, especially given that he fits an important role here, fits the locker room, wants to be here, is on an expiring deal and actually played really well last season is weird to me.
They’ve gotten this approach all the way to the 5 yard line. Why blow it now? I get it - you guys think Hield is better. I think he’d be good here, too, but not THAT good. Not good enough to take a complete left turn at this point. It just makes no sense.
If things don’t go as planned to start the season, I promise you that having THJ at the trade deadline will be 100x better than having Hield at that time.
The roster is done, my dudes. It’s looking pretty dope to me. They basically added a guy we thought could be a possible target in an #18 trade, only they got him for their LEAST crucial value player, instead. They brought the rest of the young team back for close to maximum continuity, but added FOUR young, intriguing, ATHLETIC players and a large hockey goon while literally only giving up four guys (probably) who weren’t in the rotation last year and had little chance, if any, of being in it this year.
This off-season was a freaking DREAM.
Buddy makes zero sense even if he was free. It would end any chance of adding in FA. Not worth it for a one way player. Hardaway has pressure to repeat last year’s performance. If he doesn’t, he becomes our best trade chip. It’s win-win keeping things as they are. At least until the deadline
(11-24-2020, 01:37 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: [ -> ]/thread...
but don't you want this thread to become the longest thread in the history of all threads?