(10-03-2020, 05:24 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]@"cow" we're not having the same conversation.
I responded to a hypothetical trade you offered (you meant it as a joke, I think). I don't want to trade for OPJ. Don't care. Not interested. I don't want to move on from Powell at all costs. Don't care. These are not my goals. The point of my response is that I'd ONLY make such a deal in those one-sided circumstances, which, I agree, aren't likely to present themselves.
I think Powell and Wright DO have value for some teams, as do #18 and #31. I KNOW Kleber, DFS, Curry, Brunson and THJ have more value than the hive mind here thinks they represent, both to the Mavs and to other teams.
All I'm saying is that if I'm the Mavs, I'm looking for MY deal, and that the "then you're not going to make ANY deals" response is NOT a problem for me. I am fine if WCS opts in, they bring back Burke on a team friendly deal and they draft a couple of players who have a chance at NBA careers. I need nothing else to be excited for next season.
Anything they do past that is gravy, and it had better be no-brainer level stuff.
We are having the same conversation. I'm just riffing on the idea. It wasn't really a joke but more of the completely unrealistic idea works.
From a realistic standpoint, the more we've discussed, I'm really just coming around to the hope that we just stand pat and pick at #18 and #31. I'd give up #31 if it helped get us off of Delon. I'd try to recruit Paul Millsap. Nothing else I've seemed mentioned has been all that appealing.
(10-03-2020, 05:34 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]From a realistic standpoint, the more we've discussed, I'm really just coming around to the hope that we just stand pat and pick at #18 and #31. I'd give up #31 if it helped get us off of Delon. I'd try to recruit Paul Millsap. Nothing else I've seemed mentioned has been all that appealing.
In that scenario, do you see Millsap as a starter? I assume you offer the full MLE...doesn't that mean more than one year?
(10-03-2020, 05:37 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2020, 05:34 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]From a realistic standpoint, the more we've discussed, I'm really just coming around to the hope that we just stand pat and pick at #18 and #31. I'd give up #31 if it helped get us off of Delon. I'd try to recruit Paul Millsap. Nothing else I've seemed mentioned has been all that appealing.
In that scenario, do you see Millsap as a starter? I assume you offer the full MLE...doesn't that mean more than one year?
I think it be a fluid situation depending on matchup. But I see him more as injury insurance and a very healthy bench role.
And the money? Length of contract?
Because I like Millsap, bot I don't think I like him enough to guarantee him one, single dollar past next season. I would think he'll get better offers.
(10-03-2020, 05:24 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]@"cow" we're not having the same conversation.
I responded to a hypothetical trade you offered (you meant it as a joke, I think). I don't want to trade for OPJ. Don't care. Not interested. I don't want to move on from Powell at all costs. Don't care. These are not my goals. The point of my response is that I'd ONLY make such a deal in those one-sided circumstances, which, I agree, aren't likely to present themselves.
I think Powell and Wright DO have value for some teams, as do #18 and #31. I KNOW Kleber, DFS, Curry, Brunson and THJ have more value than the hive mind here thinks they represent, both to the Mavs and to other teams.
All I'm saying is that if I'm the Mavs, I'm looking for MY deal, and that the "then you're not going to make ANY deals" response is NOT a problem for me. I am fine if WCS opts in, they bring back Burke on a team friendly deal and they draft a couple of players who have a chance at NBA careers. I need nothing else to be excited for next season.
Anything they do past that is gravy, and it had better be no-brainer level stuff.
Eh. Burke would be such a meh-signing, even for the minimum. He´s 27 years old. They released him last summer.
Now they change their mind, because he had an eight game hot streak and blind-sided a couple of teams (nobody game-planned for him) with 12/4 in 24 MPG.
Maybe if we trade Brunson. Otherwise it makes no sense. All the back-up minutes need to go to Brunson, who is three years younger and already at a consistently higher performance level.
Yeah, I just don't agree about Burke. I agree that it's possible it was an 8 game hot streak. If that's the case, then you're correct.
But if it wasn't just a hot streak, he's better right now than Brunson will ever be, and I'm a Brunson fan. If it's for the minimum (I think he'll cost more) you don't hesitate to bring him back, especially if you're moving Wright.
None of that has anything to do with my overall point, however, which is that whatever you do, you don't give anything up in a deal that could be a "bad deal." Not until after next off season, anyway.
(10-03-2020, 06:00 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]But if it wasn't just a hot streak, he's better right now than Brunson will ever be, and I'm a Brunson fan. If it's for the minimum (I think he'll cost more) you don't hesitate to bring him back, especially if you're moving Wright.
I don't agree. Unless you think he is a starter (I don't), your bench would have Brunson, Burke and Curry. It would not work. Burke should be signed only if Brunson or Curry are traded. I am not even puting Wright in the equation, he should be traded, if possible.
(10-03-2020, 06:04 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2020, 06:00 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]But if it wasn't just a hot streak, he's better right now than Brunson will ever be, and I'm a Brunson fan. If it's for the minimum (I think he'll cost more) you don't hesitate to bring him back, especially if you're moving Wright.
I don't agree. Unless you think he is a starter (I don't), your bench would have Brunson, Burke and Curry. It would not work. Burke should be signed only if Brunson or Curry are traded. I am not even puting Wright in the equation, he should be traded, if possible.
We've been over this before, but I'll play again.
The Burke we saw against the Clippers could do EVERYTHING you need in one player. He was a catch and shoot threat (not as good as Curry, but way good enough), he could play point guard, he could be a secondary driver/playmaker next to Luka, and he wasn't terrible defensively. I think he has elite 6th man and situational starter written all over him if he can be that player consistently.
I agree that there's a chance the Clippers series was a freak thing, but for the minimum??? I'll find out. Personally, I'd pay a bit more to find out, though I can understand why some wouldn't.
I agree that this results in the roster having too many small guards on it, but Burke is the biggest and longest of them, and again, IF he's the same player you saw in the Clippers series, then I say that makes Brunson or Curry expendable as trade assets, where I feel they'd have some value. In other words, I don't look at him as a backup plan if I have to move one of those guys, I look at him as a way of being able to move one of those guys.
It's the same philosophy I'd apply to the draft. You take the best players you can, regardless of fit, because you need people who can play. If you end up having too many in some areas, that's what you call a "good problem," as it means your war chest is starting to fill up. I'd much rather draft a PG who I KNOW can have a career in the league than a forward who I'm HOPING can have a career in the league, and Luka and Brunson being on the roster wouldn't stop me from trusting my instincts on the available players. I'll move that PG in a year, or Brunson, to make the team better.
(10-03-2020, 06:04 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2020, 06:00 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]But if it wasn't just a hot streak, he's better right now than Brunson will ever be, and I'm a Brunson fan. If it's for the minimum (I think he'll cost more) you don't hesitate to bring him back, especially if you're moving Wright.
I don't agree. Unless you think he is a starter (I don't), your bench would have Brunson, Burke and Curry. It would not work. Burke should be signed only if Brunson or Curry are traded. I am not even puting Wright in the equation, he should be traded, if possible.
The thing about Burke is, if we go BPA regardless of readiness, don't make significant trades, and punt the MLE because we don't want to add more longterm salary, and just use a portion of it to sign Burke, then I think Burke damn straight is our starter. Luka-Burke-THJ-DFS-KP. If you didn't do anything to get that 3rd-best guy, then I don't perceive any reasonable argument that Burke isn't superior to all of the other options on roster given his skillset. Burke showed in the bubble that he is able to create his own shot and can play next to Luka. There might be an argument that Brunson is the better player because he can create for others. IDGAfreak; Brunson has shown that his game (and perhaps his attitude, from I subjectively observed) doesn't effectively fit with Luka's. I would say Brunson and Burke are about even defensively - you don't want either of them guarding anyone but the other team's point guard, so don't switch on the PnR. Throw in on top of that that Brunson is our best trade chip if you do make a trade. If the Mavs don't use the full MLE, and don't trade for Jrue (safe bet) or Schroder (please, please, please), then Burke is a good-enough stopgap for that type of player (which I've been saying for the past month is a greater need for us even than a defensive wing).
BTW, I'm calling baloney sandwich on this ongoing narrative that Burke is some kind of scrub. He was one of the Knicks' best players (damning with faint praise, but still) the year we traded for him. He had a PER northwards of 15 (few Mavs outside of our two stars and Bobi and Powell's relative fools' gold could say that). The issue was that he was expiring, and the Mavs targeted Wright as the big, playmaking guy next to Luka they were hoping for, so Burke didn't make a lot of sense. Well, guess what happened with Wright. When you trade away Wright, Burke replaces what he was supposed to be (although his skillset and Wright's supposed skillset are a bit different since Burke is littler) - unless of course, you trade for (or draft, if we somehow get Halliburton) someone better.
(10-03-2020, 05:41 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]And the money? Length of contract?
Because I like Millsap, bot I don't think I like him enough to guarantee him one, single dollar past next season. I would think he'll get better offers.
Should Denver decide to use their MLE for him, you are probably going to need to offer him something (years) to entice him to make a switch.
(10-03-2020, 09:36 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2020, 05:41 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]And the money? Length of contract?
Because I like Millsap, bot I don't think I like him enough to guarantee him one, single dollar past next season. I would think he'll get better offers.
Should Denver decide to use their MLE for him, you are probably going to need to offer him something (years) to entice him to make a switch.
Oh, he's getting the full MLE from someone. That's what it will cost. I could handle that for one year, but not 2-3.
(10-03-2020, 09:45 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2020, 09:36 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2020, 05:41 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]And the money? Length of contract?
Because I like Millsap, bot I don't think I like him enough to guarantee him one, single dollar past next season. I would think he'll get better offers.
Should Denver decide to use their MLE for him, you are probably going to need to offer him something (years) to entice him to make a switch.
Oh, he's getting the full MLE from someone. That's what it will cost. I could handle that for one year, but not 2-3.
The issue is his age. If he goes into deep decline, then not only is he cluttering our crap, but his contract (perhaps a bargain in year one) becomes an albatross after that.
Yeah, that's not an example of someone worth eating into 2021 cap, at least not for me.
Would rather play Powell and hope for the best.
Here's a 4 team 8 player trade that could possibly help all 4 teams. There are plenty of 1st and 2nd round picks to swap or add to make this work.
Mavs give up Curry and Wright. Kings give up Bjelica, Hield and Holmes. 76ers give up Horford and Richardson. Magic only give up Gordon.
Here's the good new, Mavs get Gordon and Richardson to add to there starting line-up (Porzingis, Hardaway and Doncic). Bad news is there is $12.1 mil added to the payroll and they loose both 18 and 31. Then the could use the MLE on a back-up SG/F type like Justin Holiday?
The Kings get to move off of Hield but have to take Horford to do so. But they add Curry as the back-up SG and save $1.2 mil for the year.
76ers get Hield to add to there scoring and Holmes to replace Horford. Plus they save the most at $8.9 mil.
Magic get Bjelica to replace Gordon and Wright as there back-up PG. Plus they save $1.9 mil in the process. ORL might require most of the picks to go along with this 4 team trade.
This trade worked on tradenba.com but I could not figure out how to copy and past it on this site?
(10-03-2020, 09:00 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2020, 08:02 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: [ -> ]
Did anyone read the Athletic article about Buddy? Sounds like he may want out of Sacramento but it was locked behind a paywall and I'm poor lol.
He's sort of a better shooting version of THJ so I wouldn't pay a crazy amount for him. But he's locked in on a declining contract and that really intrigues me. He's on a great value deal. And I can't help but wonder if he does even a bit better shooting with a good supporting cast around him.
Mostly details the history of his unhappiness in Sacramento. A deal has to return between $19.9 and $31.2 million unless he's traded to a team with room. Lot's of talk about Philly, but neither Horford nor Harris make sense for Sacramento. Taking back big long term money doesn't help them retain Bogdanovic or extend Fox.
You know I could really talk myself into a deal revolving around THJ and Brunson for Buddy. Does that include one or both of our picks? Idk... Depends on what else we get.
But for me I think you get a more consistent shooting Hardaway style player that I think has a much higher ceiling in the offense. If you like THJ here long term than Buddy makes a lot of sense.
I happen to like THJ long term in the right role.
I think with Buddy he's also got the gunner mentality that you maybe even move him to 6th man at some point and have your super 6th man.
(10-03-2020, 03:57 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2020, 03:43 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2020, 03:40 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]So how can you consider this as lower risk compared to Oladipo?
I am saying based on what assets I think you have to give to get them.
I think Dipo empties the cupboard and then likely loses his own "asset" value.
I think Buddy is at least an asset as a PROVEN NBA floor spacer and high volume three point shooter. And you have to give up less to get him more than likely.
The problem is that Buddy is entering a 4YR 100M extension. *ALERT* Vlade gave him that contract *ALERT*
The ceiling for his defensive side of the floor is average. Can you put enough defensive minded players around he and Luka to have a top 15 defense? Not sure.
He'd give you an offensive punch and could probably average 20-22 points per game where Dipo and THJ are going to be 15-18. Buddy is a defensive liability. Dipo is at least an average defender. THJ tries hard so I'd rank him above Budy.
The plus side is that you know what he costs, his contract numbers lessen as the years progress and like you said, he can probably be had for less assets than Dipo. Dipo probably costs you more if you want to resign him.
THJ would be the least expensive option moving forward so we should keep that door open if other options don't present themselves.
If Buddy doesn't mesh with Carlisle, how easy is that contract to move? Can you return anything of value or are we dumping him like we did Harry?
THJ was a complete defensive liability when he first got here. Now he's at least probably an average defender with his effort. He's not a huge defensive liability anymore at least.
Alot of times you just need effort.
We've seen time and time again once a guy gets out of a losing situation he can work at it and at least not be awful
Even Harden has actually turned into an average defender now.
As far as Buddy's contract and RC is concerned. I don't think Buddy is a problem. He didn't have a problem at OU. Sacramento is a joke and I'm sure he's sick of it.
I love his contract. It's declining and just going to continue to get more and more valuable.
20ish mill for a 20ppg guy on over 40% shooting is pretty dang good value IMO. If the cap doesn't lower at least/
(10-03-2020, 11:23 PM)chaparral Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a 4 team 8 player trade that could possibly help all 4 teams. There are plenty of 1st and 2nd round picks to swap or add to make this work.
Mavs give up Curry and Wright. Kings give up Bjelica, Hield and Holmes. 76ers give up Horford and Richardson. Magic only give up Gordon.
Here's the good new, Mavs get Gordon and Richardson to add to there starting line-up (Porzingis, Hardaway and Doncic). Bad news is there is $12.1 mil added to the payroll and they loose both 18 and 31. Then the could use the MLE on a back-up SG/F type like Justin Holiday?
The Kings get to move off of Hield but have to take Horford to do so. But they add Curry as the back-up SG and save $1.2 mil for the year.
76ers get Hield to add to there scoring and Holmes to replace Horford. Plus they save the most at $8.9 mil.
Magic get Bjelica to replace Gordon and Wright as there back-up PG. Plus they save $1.9 mil in the process. ORL might require most of the picks to go along with this 4 team trade.
This trade worked on tradenba.com but I could not figure out how to copy and past it on this site?
Sounds like a good idea. The issue with 4 team trades are that they never happen lol.
Barring a really big name at least.
(10-03-2020, 09:09 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2020, 06:04 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2020, 06:00 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]But if it wasn't just a hot streak, he's better right now than Brunson will ever be, and I'm a Brunson fan. If it's for the minimum (I think he'll cost more) you don't hesitate to bring him back, especially if you're moving Wright.
I don't agree. Unless you think he is a starter (I don't), your bench would have Brunson, Burke and Curry. It would not work. Burke should be signed only if Brunson or Curry are traded. I am not even puting Wright in the equation, he should be traded, if possible.
The thing about Burke is, if we go BPA regardless of readiness, don't make significant trades, and punt the MLE because we don't want to add more longterm salary, and just use a portion of it to sign Burke, then I think Burke damn straight is our starter. Luka-Burke-THJ-DFS-KP. If you didn't do anything to get that 3rd-best guy, then I don't perceive any reasonable argument that Burke isn't superior to all of the other options on roster given his skillset. Burke showed in the bubble that he is able to create his own shot and can play next to Luka. There might be an argument that Brunson is the better player because he can create for others. IDGAfreak; Brunson has shown that his game (and perhaps his attitude, from I subjectively observed) doesn't effectively fit with Luka's. I would say Brunson and Burke are about even defensively - you don't want either of them guarding anyone but the other team's point guard, so don't switch on the PnR. Throw in on top of that that Brunson is our best trade chip if you do make a trade. If the Mavs don't use the full MLE, and don't trade for Jrue (safe bet) or Schroder (please, please, please), then Burke is a good-enough stopgap for that type of player (which I've been saying for the past month is a greater need for us even than a defensive wing).
BTW, I'm calling baloney sandwich on this ongoing narrative that Burke is some kind of scrub. He was one of the Knicks' best players (damning with faint praise, but still) the year we traded for him. He had a PER northwards of 15 (few Mavs outside of our two stars and Bobi and Powell's relative fools' gold could say that). The issue was that he was expiring, and the Mavs targeted Wright as the big, playmaking guy next to Luka they were hoping for, so Burke didn't make a lot of sense. Well, guess what happened with Wright. When you trade away Wright, Burke replaces what he was supposed to be (although his skillset and Wright's supposed skillset are a bit different since Burke is littler) - unless of course, you trade for (or draft, if we somehow get Halliburton) someone better.
I'd love to have Burke back.
Luka, Brunson, Burke is near to perfect for me.
I'm not sure it's possible because he might get more than the Vetmin and I hope we find someone, who is worth the full MLE, if it's just as trade fodder.
I like Burke as a (part time)starter, as it moves Luka to SF/PF on defence what suits him better. We can't do this against Dame/Westbroke etc..
If I think about it, I prefer to give RC 3 starters and 6 situational starters than 5 starters and scrubs.
(10-03-2020, 04:10 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]You are very subjective here. Since you gave such a critical look at Dipo, let's have a critical look at OPJ. With the exception of first 15 games with Chicago, he never scored more than 15 ppg and he actually came close to that in one season only. His efficiency was not really great most of his career. Same as Dipo he was troubled by an injury and it is not clear yet if he can return to preinjury self (which was worse than preinjury Dipo). The only thing he is better at is 3 point shooting.
OPJ salary is higher than Dipo, which automatically means it will take more salary on our side to make the deal work. I really have no idea why would Chicago trade him for what we have. He is their only wing. Moving him probably makes them worse and it doesn't look they are rebuilding. So I don't agree it will be cheaper to get him than Dipo.
There is no way they take Powell and Wright salary as that would require our picks without sending a good player back. We could offer THJ+Jackson. But they have a bunch of similar players to THJ like LaVine, White etc. So would you pay Kleber+Curry+Wright+picks for him?
If this is being critical of OPJ, and this is your argument, let me double down (on my doubled down, double down) on my want for OPJ .
The only true thing you said in there is he hasn't really been a 15ppg scorer. You're right, he did come close to that in the season where Wall and Beal were at the top and the big focuses (like he'd have here with KP and Luka). He was improving his scoring year after year until this last injury riddled season, after the trade to Chi, he showed what he could do with a bigger role on offense.
His efficiency was not really great most of his career? Are we looking at the same player? First, his 3% has been steadily good-to-stellar on great attempt numbers after his first 2 seasons. He's a career 93.3% assisted 3P shooter and that was much bigger when he was with Wall and Beal peaking at
96.6%. For comparison, THJ was 83.8% this year and Seth was 83.2% in his best year last year with Portland.
Now lets get to 2P efficiency cause that has to be where you're going with this. A career 52.8% 2P shooter where he's 68.6% from 0-3ft, 47% from 3-10ft, 44.4% from 10-16ft, and 45.5% from 16ft-3P (most of these numbers generally better in the seasons with Wall and Beal). For this season, THJ was 48.5% overall, 61.2% from 0-3ft, 35.1% from 3-10ft, 50.7% from 10-16ft, 44.8% from 16ft-3P.
Now you say "
Same as Dipo he was troubled by an injury and it is not clear yet if he can return to preinjury self (which was worse than preinjury Dipo)". Only thing to gleen from that statement is that pre-injury OPJ was worse than pre-injury Dipo (meh). A shoulder injury followed by needing to get stitches in his mouth followed by an ankle sprain followed by a foot bruise is a string of bad luck with the injury bug which is no where near the same as Dipo with an injury that is likened to the achilles tear injury for athlete careers. OPJ was troubled with multiple minor injuries (except the shoulder thing, but that isn't an athlete career ending type thing), Dipo was troubled by AN injury. "It is not clear yet that he can return to preinjury self" you say? Well then, it isn't clear that Luka can fully recover from his injury either (Morris induced ankle sprain), or KP from his (Morris induced knee injury), or anyone from theirs.
Of course it will be cheaper to get him than Dipo. Chi got him for Portis, Parker and a protected 23 second. Just have to slightly beat that and Chi wins that series of trades. THJ alone beats that deal so your THJ and Jackson deal without picks works just fine (I've wanted multiple other players on their roster so have done deals for multiple players, however, using both TradeNBA and RealGM's trade checkers gives me a successful trade by swapping THJ for OPJ straight up, doesn't seem right though). They save lots of money and I would even tip them a 23 second unprotected to sweeten the deal and make their deal to get him whole (or better) on picks.
Did you just say you didn't think Chi was rebuilding? Are those really the words that came out of your brain? Please tell me it's a language barrier thing. They have been rebuilding since they let go of Butler and Rose who were their 2 reasons for reaching to where they got. If this year didn't show them that they have a LONG way to go, nothing will. Their fans know it, their media knows it, I think they know it too. Moving him possibly does make them worse on defense, esp if they trade for THJ, but defense is the one thing they can afford to lose on that team.
THJ + Jackson + 23 second is pretty close if not the best offer they get for OPJ IMO. That, to me, is fully worth it. If they want to throw in a Wright for Young swap as well, I'm all ears, while we're at it, we can throw in a Curry for Satoransky swap as well.
The rest of this isn't directed to you Omahen, but it needs to be said. I don't view OPJ as a 3rd best offensive player type. I think he's an amazing bail out option and at least just as-good-as-THJ was on offense from this year guy. Add on top of that, him being a really good defender, and we have a player who is perfect for the team we have going forward. Resign him to a $15-18M/yr deal (hopefully starting at $18M and declining every year or $16M flat for 3 years) the following offseason and we have a third core guy (hopefully not 3rd best, but 3rd in number) for a few highly productive years.
(10-04-2020, 02:56 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]Chi got him for Portis, Parker and a protected 23 second.
Yes, because he had a multiyear overpaid contract. He is expiring now, huge difference.
(10-04-2020, 02:56 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]THJ alone beats that deal so your THJ and Jackson deal without picks works just fine
I don't see why Chicago would do that without at least #18. They don't need THJ, they need OPJ. And the deal only saves them a couple of millions. So no motivation on this end either.
(10-04-2020, 02:56 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]They save lots of money
Not really, they save less than 5 million.
(10-04-2020, 02:56 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]Did you just say you didn't think Chi was rebuilding?
Yeah, perhaps not correct word. They are in a rebuilding process, but they will certainly not be tanking. They already said they want to be better. They also brought a serious coach. And even if they would be tanking, that is just another reason for them not to do the trade without at least one FRP attached, since we are not giving young players with upside.
(10-04-2020, 02:56 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]THJ + Jackson + 23 second is pretty close if not the best offer they get for OPJ IMO
Might be, it is difficult to match his salary and improve. But this doesn't mean they will accept it. I wouldn't. I mean, why would I? If you think THJ is better or equal player to OPJ, why are you trading him?
I still think you guys underrate Dipo and overrate guys like OPJ and Hield. Is is a very good offensive player but to me that's like just a better version of THJ. Dipo is a legit 2nd or 3rd option on a contending team.
The other guy I really like is Josh Richardson, who isn't a star but checks all the boxes I think you'd want in your starting SG. I think it would cost you a Seth Curry but I'd be willing to do that to get a starting SG.
THJ could be flipped for something else or you could try him again as your 6th man.