(11-15-2020, 04:37 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2020, 02:38 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]So the thing yall are forgetting about with a Green move is that we would be dumping Wrights contract in the process. Yes Green is not worth 31 but Green plus subtracting Wright might be worth 31, we will see. Mavs might do it for cheaper but Wright is a negative asset so you aren't going to be able to move him without some kind of cost.
So, let's explore another way this might work. OKC agrees to buyout Green for $6mm. Why does Green agree to a $9.35mm pay cut? Because Dallas has promised to sign him to a one year MLE deal that makes him whole. But wait, that means OKC paid $6mm for the 28th pick. Not if Cuban writes a $5mm check. In that case, they paid $1mm for the 28th pick (about the going rate).
There is one thing missing from "The Dan Plan". There has to be a trade between Dallas and OKC in which Cuban can funnel some money (because the buyout/MLE plan isn't a trade). If only we could think of a way that OKC and Dallas might be involved in a trade of some kind that might make Green useful as a replacement for DFS. Hmmm, I wonder if anyone has any ideas.
Isn't something like this, one of the things, that makes the nba take away your pick for circumventing the cap?
I'm pretty glad Orcam's razor says it's to complex to be probable.
Can we stop giving away DFS for (lesser) roleplayers (on worse contracts). I know our fantasy trades are just spitballing, but this makes me guessing my own sanity.
(11-15-2020, 05:13 PM)burekemde Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2020, 03:40 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Nesmith + Hield + Millsap is going to be a killer off-season for us. Gotta feel bad for Mike Breen though for when he call our games. He'll wear out his voice with all those bangs.
I love Millsap, he improves us instantly, he is a tough smart player, and can contribute to a title, I really love his game, and he is very underrated. But have to say with Nesmith + Hield, we get even softer as a team than we are currently, and already now this is a major issue in playoffs. They both bring elite shooting and pretty much nothing else.
Bombs away! Let me dream, none of my predictions or desires are ever fulfilled by the MBT.
(11-15-2020, 05:33 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see why you couldn't play DFS and Green together.
Because we want to win? Can't see us going far with both starting.
(11-15-2020, 05:44 PM)aguiar95 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2020, 05:33 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see why you couldn't play DFS and Green together.
Because we want to win? Can't see us going far with both starting.
If you get a big offensive talent next to them like Lavine or Gallo or whoever is a 1 way player.... You don't need scoring. You need defense and spot up shooting. Both those guys are really solid defenders and solid shooters. Sometimes really good shooter if you are Danny Green. Sometimes not so much ha.
If we don't get an all offensive type guy... Then yeah he doesn't interest me all that much. Tho I'll gladly exchange Wright for him.
If we were able to upgrade THJ then ya I think DG and DFS would be out there. Rick likes to play 5 out these days.
I do not think OKC would trade Green, it makes more sense to just buy him out.
I would think the buyout market is going to be pretty good so I will not trade for Green
The value of the 31 pick is a multi year starter or for use in a bigger and better deal
I assume the Mavericks value that 31st pick a great deal and they should given the financial benefits it brings
(11-15-2020, 04:54 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2020, 01:53 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: [ -> ]It’s possible the green/Schroeder trade gets folded into a CP3 to Phoenix trade. If we were to be a facilitator i think we could end up with a couple decent players(Green and Oubre) and also get a future first in exchange for our picks this year
Glad you are back.
I played with the idea of just one of them and struggled to make it comply with OKC's desire for expiring contracts. That was for just one of Oubre and Green, let alone both. Then I modeled out the Green Buyout/MLE signing by Dallas which makes Green whole and sets OKC up to pay $1mm for #28 if there is a second deal with Dallas where Cuban adds $5mm. Now the idea of both Green and Oubre doesn't seem so outlandish.
So, let's go back to Wright/DFS going to OKC and Oubre coming here (and pause the Rubio GIF's for a moment). What you are saying is 18 would be outgoing, but we'd be getting a future first back? That is also interesting. OKC certainly has the draft capital. Are you thinking 21 or 22? Or, do you know?
The math on postponing the pick to 22 and moving Wright/DFS for expiring deals is really interesting missing the mark for GA space by less than the cost of Brunson.
OKC i think will value that $5 million cash. They have picks, but not very high this year so i think they would value 18.
OKC gets Wright, Jackson $5 million, 18 and 31.
Mavs get Oubre and 2021 1st from OKC(they have an arrangement with heat and rockets, we could take the lesser). Green is bought out and our MLE
Then turn around and trade the pick we get from OKC in a Hardaway/Drummond swap or even hold it for the deadline to make a move
(11-15-2020, 06:21 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2020, 04:54 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2020, 01:53 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: [ -> ]It’s possible the green/Schroeder trade gets folded into a CP3 to Phoenix trade. If we were to be a facilitator i think we could end up with a couple decent players(Green and Oubre) and also get a future first in exchange for our picks this year
Glad you are back.
I played with the idea of just one of them and struggled to make it comply with OKC's desire for expiring contracts. That was for just one of Oubre and Green, let alone both. Then I modeled out the Green Buyout/MLE signing by Dallas which makes Green whole and sets OKC up to pay $1mm for #28 if there is a second deal with Dallas where Cuban adds $5mm. Now the idea of both Green and Oubre doesn't seem so outlandish.
So, let's go back to Wright/DFS going to OKC and Oubre coming here (and pause the Rubio GIF's for a moment). What you are saying is 18 would be outgoing, but we'd be getting a future first back? That is also interesting. OKC certainly has the draft capital. Are you thinking 21 or 22? Or, do you know?
The math on postponing the pick to 22 and moving Wright/DFS for expiring deals is really interesting missing the mark for GA space by less than the cost of Brunson.
OKC i think will value that $5 million cash. They have picks, but not very high this year so i think they would value 18.
OKC gets Wright, Jackson $5 million, 18 and 31.
Mavs get Oubre and 2021 1st from OKC(they have an arrangement with heat and rockets, we could take the lesser). Green is bought out and our MLE
Then turn around and trade the pick we get from OKC in a Hardaway/Drummond swap or even hold it for the deadline to make a move
So, your thought is:
Wright/Jackson/THJ/18/31/Cash
For Oubre (expiring), Green (1 year MLE, but I’m counting it as a trade asset), 2021 pick and Drummond (expiring)?
I was following until the Drummond part. Lucy, you got some “splaining” to do.
(11-15-2020, 06:35 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2020, 06:21 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2020, 04:54 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2020, 01:53 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: [ -> ]It’s possible the green/Schroeder trade gets folded into a CP3 to Phoenix trade. If we were to be a facilitator i think we could end up with a couple decent players(Green and Oubre) and also get a future first in exchange for our picks this year
Glad you are back.
I played with the idea of just one of them and struggled to make it comply with OKC's desire for expiring contracts. That was for just one of Oubre and Green, let alone both. Then I modeled out the Green Buyout/MLE signing by Dallas which makes Green whole and sets OKC up to pay $1mm for #28 if there is a second deal with Dallas where Cuban adds $5mm. Now the idea of both Green and Oubre doesn't seem so outlandish.
So, let's go back to Wright/DFS going to OKC and Oubre coming here (and pause the Rubio GIF's for a moment). What you are saying is 18 would be outgoing, but we'd be getting a future first back? That is also interesting. OKC certainly has the draft capital. Are you thinking 21 or 22? Or, do you know?
The math on postponing the pick to 22 and moving Wright/DFS for expiring deals is really interesting missing the mark for GA space by less than the cost of Brunson.
OKC i think will value that $5 million cash. They have picks, but not very high this year so i think they would value 18.
OKC gets Wright, Jackson $5 million, 18 and 31.
Mavs get Oubre and 2021 1st from OKC(they have an arrangement with heat and rockets, we could take the lesser). Green is bought out and our MLE
Then turn around and trade the pick we get from OKC in a Hardaway/Drummond swap or even hold it for the deadline to make a move
So, your thought is:
Wright/Jackson/THJ/18/31/Cash
For Oubre (expiring), Green (1 year MLE, but I’m counting it as a trade asset), 2021 pick and Drummond (expiring)?
I was following until the Drummond part. Lucy, you got some “splaining” to do.
Ignore the Drummond part.
Suns get: CP3
Lakers get: Schroeder
Mavs get: Oubre, future 1st
OKC gets: Rubio, Green(buyout), Wright, Jackson, 10, 18, 31 and cash. Plus future suns pick
Edit:plus lakers first to okc
Jackson+5mil cash+future second for Tucker. Not sure if it works salary wise.
(11-15-2020, 07:03 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2020, 06:51 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2020, 06:50 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/LegionHoopsRoss/stat...2828191746
Firesale has begun, Houston will sell everything.
This is not good for their chances of hanging another 2nd Round Championship banner
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Poor Houston, maybe they need some Rubio love.
(11-15-2020, 07:35 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: [ -> ]Everything suggests Jose Juan Barea is returning to the Mavs for the 2020-21 season, @ElNuevoDia has learned. Barea already had a meeting with owner Mark Cuban
Better be as a coach!
PLEASE do not waste a roster spot JJB. PLEASE.
