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(11-21-2020, 10:08 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]How many of these plays can THJ or Richardson make?  

special guest appearance at #6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfclzuU4grM&ab_channel=SacramentoKings

Counter... how can you pay a 2/3 like a franchise cornerstone when he has to settle for a long range pull up contested airball when he can't get around a 4/5 off the switch off the dribble as seen at the ~6:50 mark here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7DKSRrmCws

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Gonna be such a weird end to the offseason if Barea truly is the 15th man. 
Another big is a requirement not just a want

Noel having to settle for a fraction of a contract Mason Plumee got on the market doesn't seem to jive with the narrative that he absolutely thrived once he escaped from the domineering sabotage of Rick Carlisle.

The Terry two way thing makes the most sense. Could be JJB comes to camp without a deal?

(11-21-2020, 11:03 PM)HanspardsShowerVoice Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-21-2020, 10:08 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]How many of these plays can THJ or Richardson make?  

special guest appearance at #6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfclzuU4grM&ab_channel=SacramentoKings

Counter... how can you pay a 2/3 like a franchise cornerstone 

1.  I dont think you understand what this means.  THJ signed for 4/$71 million three summers ago.  That's not franchise cornerstone money.  That's the kind of money Josh Richardson is going to get next summer.
2.  I dunno if you've watched the Mavericks play recently but we run a lot of pick and roll.  I dont care what he can or cant do in ISO ball.  No one on this team outside of Luka can remotely distribute off the PnR like he can.  Give it about 20 games before everyone is confused why Kevin O'Conner thought JRich was a good secondary creator.
3.  We just gave $150 million to a guy that by your estimation is only going to play in 30% of our games.  If that's true, we definitely need more firepower offensively.

(11-21-2020, 10:55 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/1330359073603284993

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https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1330360071281389568

TBD = Trading for Bogi Definitely

(11-21-2020, 11:06 PM)Jym Wrote: [ -> ]Gonna be such a weird end to the offseason if Barea truly is the 15th man. 
Another big is a requirement not just a want

The thing is, the Mavs roster is full right now. Full stop 15 players after the Iwundu signing. 

Which means if they want JJ to return, they'd need to make a 2 for 1 trade to free up a roster spot. What that could be is as good of a guess as anyone else''s.

(11-21-2020, 11:09 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: [ -> ]The Terry two way thing makes the most sense. Could be JJB comes to camp without a deal?

Could that be possible? Kind of like a “be ready” agreement between JJ and Mavs?

Like “Be ready” to come from the coaching staff to join the roster if we need you? I’m only kidding, I don’t even know if this is possible.

(11-21-2020, 11:06 PM)Jym Wrote: [ -> ]Gonna be such a weird end to the offseason if Barea truly is the 15th man. 
Another big is a requirement not just a want

Id say that it’s important, maybe a need. But not a requirement.

FWIW, THJ is excellent in the PNR as well. 

But he doesn't do much creation out of it. Different play styles. THJ brings alot offensively too. 

The one con I do have against Bog is do we want him or Richardson as the starting SG now or in the future. And I think with Richardson's multi positional defense, you could see Richardson as being preferred between the 2. 

I'm completely fine if the Mavs take is we don't want him here long term and don't want to get stuck with him or give up something they do want here long term. By all indications Brunson is someone they want here longterm so that could be why they wouldn't have interest in making a deal.

The Clippers aren't giving up just yet.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status...2169454593

(11-21-2020, 10:22 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ]Luka and Bogdan both smiling afterwards, also so many Bogdan to WCS highlights. 

Did you also see JJ make an assisted layup from BB on #5? I guess we had the wrong guy passing to him all this time!

when can we aggregate contracts that we traded for? 
I thought I saw that it was like in early December for the condensed offseason

(11-21-2020, 11:26 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm completely fine if the Mavs take is we don't want him here long term and don't want to get stuck with him or give up something they do want here long term. By all indications Brunson is someone they want here longterm so that could be why they wouldn't have interest in making a deal.

I'm completely fine if the Mavs dont think he's good enough.  Same with Brogdon last year.

I'm getting a little tired of the flexibility argument though.  We haven't signed anyone good in a decade.  Everyone has flaws.  Then we end up with Delon Wright.

(11-21-2020, 11:14 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-21-2020, 11:03 PM)HanspardsShowerVoice Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-21-2020, 10:08 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]How many of these plays can THJ or Richardson make?  

special guest appearance at #6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfclzuU4grM&ab_channel=SacramentoKings

Counter... how can you pay a 2/3 like a franchise cornerstone 

1.  I dont think you understand what this means.  THJ signed for 4/$71 million three summers ago.  That's not franchise cornerstone money.  That's the kind of money Josh Richardson is going to get next summer.
2.  I dunno if you've watched the Mavericks play recently but we run a lot of pick and roll.  I dont care what he can or cant do in ISO ball.  No one on this team outside of Luka can remotely distribute off the PnR like he can.  Give it about 20 games before everyone is confused why Kevin O'Conner thought JRich was a good secondary creator.
3.  We just gave $150 million to a guy that by your estimation is only going to play in 30% of our games.  If that's true, we definitely need more firepower offensively.

1) Bogdon is going to cost more THJ if you're outbidding cap wealthy and desperate teams like the Hawks.   We're 1 year removed from being off of THJ's salary.  
2) Bogdon was a 57% Percentile ball handler in the PnR last year.
3) Bogdon and KP play completely different positions.  KP is a paid highly because he's a great shooting 7'3" center.   Bogdon is a spot up shooting 2 guard.   What's Seth Curry's salary?

(11-21-2020, 11:27 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]The Clippers aren't giving up just yet.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status...2169454593

Wow!!

Who would you rather have at similar money - Montrezl Harrell or Serge Ibaka?

I know how I'd answer that question.

Clippers quietly doing work.  They still need a real PG.

(11-21-2020, 11:30 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-21-2020, 11:26 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm completely fine if the Mavs take is we don't want him here long term and don't want to get stuck with him or give up something they do want here long term. By all indications Brunson is someone they want here longterm so that could be why they wouldn't have interest in making a deal.

I'm completely fine if the Mavs dont think he's good enough.  Same with Brogdon last year.

I'm getting a little tired of the flexibility argument though.  We haven't signed anyone good in a decade.  Everyone has flaws.  Then we end up with Delon Wright.

Yeah I think that's sort of what I'm saying too. If you don't want him as your starting SG long term but you want Richardson or THJ in that role than you are saying he's not good enough. And I think based on known play Richardson (Miami version and what we expect we are getting) and THJ you could argue are just as good. Bogi's upside is higher here for sure. 

The fascinating thing for me is to see is whether the Mavs decide to go big or small starting lineup. With Luka you have so many options. He's the PG obviously but based on his heigh you could have him be the SF and go smaller with your SF that's really a SG or PG. It's all semantics what you call them really. 

Do you want to go with a guard like Jrue in FA next year (don't think that's going to be a thing but just pulling out a name) or do you want to go with a more traditional forward like Kawhi/George. Or a true one positional forward like Griffin. 

I'm just pulling out the big names from FA next year obviously. But yeah you are probably not signing any of those but you get the point. 

I'd think the current plan at the very least is to have Luka, DFS/Green, KP being 3 long term starters. And they are figuring out who the rest are.

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Raptors lost Ibaka. Curious to see if they lose Gasol. 

I would not be surprised to see them decide to eventually cut bait with the old guard in season aka Lowry on an expiring deal. 

Ibaka is a big loss. He averaged 15ppg last year on really good shooting #s. For a team that doesn't have elite scoring options that's a hit.

Didnt see this posted before

https://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/1330226541612183555