https://www.nba.com/stats/impact/advance...732~202699&VsLineupIDs=203954&TeamID=1610612755&VsTeamID=1610612755
76ers stats while A. Horford, B. Simmons, T. Harris are ON COURT
76ers stats while A. Horford, B. Simmons, T. Harris are ON COURT
Simmons, Hrs stats while A. Hor immons, T. Harris are ON COURT
(11-02-2020, 08:08 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]Kevin Pelton's ESPN Insider piece on Morey impact on decision making in Philly is linked below. He doesn't think Morey will trade Simmons or Embiid in the near term. Here is what he said about the guy most likely to go...Harris:
Tweaks in short term, bold changes in long term
From a big-picture perspective, I'm not sure Morey's arrival will dramatically change Philadelphia's game plan. For now, the 76ers will most likely look to maximize the Embiid-Simmons duo with their new coach -- recently hired Doc Rivers -- and different pieces around them.
Morey would probably be more inclined to trade starting forward Tobias Harris, who re-signed on a five-year, $180 million deal last summer after the Sixers gave up a lavish package to acquire him from the LA Clippers before the 2019 trade deadline. However, Harris' disappointing 2019-20 campaign and big contract will make it difficult to move him for value. The same is true of Al Horford, Philadelphia's big-ticket addition in the summer of 2019.
Beyond that, the 76ers' short-term moves are largely telegraphed. They'll surely look to move Mike Scott and Zhaire Smith to cut their luxury-tax bill, which might give Morey the ability to go shopping with the team's taxpayer midlevel exception.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_...rey-charge
From a money perspective I agree, but from the Thybulle bubble videos, Harris felt like their veteran leader. He was the one speaking about BLM and their position/mentality going forward and even was the guy that talked during TOs in the Celtics series. Same mold as DP here (bad contract, excellent culture guy). Not sure he would go there. To me the odd man out in Philly is Horford. Horford/Smith/21/Future protected 1st for Hield is their move I think.
(11-02-2020, 08:19 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 07:42 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]He had Jevon Carter (a player I like here) at $5.3mm and mentions Dallas would be a good situation for his skill set.
He actually doesn't say that last part He mentiones Dallas next to Dragic, Burke and Barea
My bad. I was thinking of what he said about Dragic while writing about Carter. Thanks for catching that.
(11-02-2020, 09:14 AM)aguiar95 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 08:08 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]Kevin Pelton's ESPN Insider piece on Morey impact on decision making in Philly is linked below. He doesn't think Morey will trade Simmons or Embiid in the near term. Here is what he said about the guy most likely to go...Harris:
Tweaks in short term, bold changes in long term
From a big-picture perspective, I'm not sure Morey's arrival will dramatically change Philadelphia's game plan. For now, the 76ers will most likely look to maximize the Embiid-Simmons duo with their new coach -- recently hired Doc Rivers -- and different pieces around them.
Morey would probably be more inclined to trade starting forward Tobias Harris, who re-signed on a five-year, $180 million deal last summer after the Sixers gave up a lavish package to acquire him from the LA Clippers before the 2019 trade deadline. However, Harris' disappointing 2019-20 campaign and big contract will make it difficult to move him for value. The same is true of Al Horford, Philadelphia's big-ticket addition in the summer of 2019.
Beyond that, the 76ers' short-term moves are largely telegraphed. They'll surely look to move Mike Scott and Zhaire Smith to cut their luxury-tax bill, which might give Morey the ability to go shopping with the team's taxpayer midlevel exception.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_...rey-charge
From a money perspective I agree, but from the Thybulle bubble videos, Harris felt like their veteran leader. He was the one speaking about BLM and their position/mentality going forward and even was the guy that talked during TOs in the Celtics series. Same mold as DP here (bad contract, excellent culture guy). Not sure he would go there. To me the odd man out in Philly is Horford. Horford/Smith/21/Future protected 1st for Hield is their move I think.
Morey will see that the main fit issue is Embiid...
(11-02-2020, 07:42 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]Trey Burke $7,131,892
I am not sure what I thought the Mavs could give him but that, seems high.
(11-02-2020, 07:42 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]John Hollinger at The Athletic has a series out this week on Free Agents. He's combining PIPM, Raptor and PER on a weighted multi-year basis to come up with a single rating and then applying 20/21 dollars to that rating. Luka as a free agent, for instance, would be the second most valuable player in the league and worth a contract of $55 million per (the metric is age based). Gallinari is worth $19mm (he was named in the piece explaining the metric). Hollinger thinks there will be a larger than normal number of one year deals this time around.
Today he started with PG's. VanVleet is at the top of a thin class at $22mm. Dragic is a hair above MLE at $11.5mm. One of the bigger surprises (to me) was Burke at $7mm one spot ahead of Reggie Jackson at $6.4mm. He had Jevon Carter (a player I like here) at $5.3mm and mentions Dallas would be a good situation for his skill set. Barea and Yogi are down in the $3mm range. I assume Dunn will be in tomorow's piece on SG's.
Here is what he wrote about Burke:
Tier 4: Less than MLE, more than minimum
Trey Burke $7,131,892
A replacement player in Dallas after Philadelphia inexplicably cut him, Burke isn’t for everybody — he’s small, he’s going to pound the ball a bit, and he’ll take a lot of long 2s. (This story comes up a lot in this free-agent guard market).
Nonetheless, he’s a good choice for a second unit that has limited shot creation, or as a third point guard to step up in case of injury. Burke’s 42.7 percent 3-point shooting last season is likely a fluke, as it’s a major outlier from the rest of his career, but the other numbers are not. He scores 23.7 points per 100 for his career with a 14.1 PER, and although he’s small he’s not a horrific defender. There’s a place for him in a rotation someplace.
https://theathletic.com/2166277/2020/11/...thin-herd/
Thanks for sharing this!
Please keep bringing highlights here please. I am super intrigued about balancing those three advanced stats and seeing the outcomes.
If we are willing to eat an Albatros contract ... how about Cp3 ...? his contract is shorter than Harris ... Powell + THJ + Lee (Signature / Change) + Delon + Maxi for CP3 + Gallinari
(11-02-2020, 11:27 AM)Mike lorenzo Wrote: [ -> ]CP3
I like CP3 the player, but I personally do not want CP3 the alpha locker room presence anywhere near Luka's lockerroom.
(11-02-2020, 07:42 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]John Hollinger at The Athletic has a series out this week on Free Agents.
Here is what he wrote about Burke:
Tier 4: Less than MLE, more than minimum
Trey Burke $7,131,892
That is the kind of evaluation that got him fired from the Grizzlies job. Probably wanted to give Delon Wright an extension, too.
To commit $7M to Burke, in a pre-arranged deal before the official start of free agency, just to find out that all the best available FAs sign one year MLE deals would be so Mavericks. Burke´s ceiling is the room exception.
That being said I´m exhausted. They moved the draft back too far.
I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.
My likely Mavs targets for a Wright trade are Dipo, Schroder and Danny Green.
(11-02-2020, 04:44 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.
I concur. This, or something very similar, is still the mostly likely scenario, imo.
(11-02-2020, 04:46 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 04:44 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.
I concur. This, or something very similar, is still the mostly likely scenario, imo.
So you are finally out on Harris?
(11-02-2020, 05:06 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 04:46 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 04:44 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.
I concur. This, or something very similar, is still the mostly likely scenario, imo.
So you are finally out on Harris?
BUT OPJ STILL HAS A CHANCE!
(11-02-2020, 04:46 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 04:44 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.
I concur. This, or something very similar, is still the mostly likely scenario, imo.
You're both probably right. So Mavs, and so bad. Green is terrible, I have a sense that the Mavs are out on Dipo, and Schroder comes with a lot of baggage off the court and in the locker room that the Mavs will want to avoid (and have dynamically avoided in the past, it was so bad).
I'd rather have another year of Wright than see our last FRS before Luka's extension completely flushed down the toilet on the rotting corpse of Danny Green. Just put me out of my misery if that happens. Edit: I still haven't stated it strongly enough - ***as important as it is to get out from under Wright's contract, since Green probably gets rotation minutes if he comes here, and because he is so abominably bad at this stage of his career that he dynamically costs us wins in 2020-21, I would be angry if the Mavs traded Wright for Green straight up, much less Wright and 31, far less Wright and 18***. Vomit, vomit, vomit. I'd rather we paid Courtney Lee a big one year deal and gave him rotation minutes than acquiring Green. So terrible.
(11-02-2020, 05:32 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 05:06 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 04:46 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 04:44 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.
I concur. This, or something very similar, is still the mostly likely scenario, imo.
So you are finally out on Harris?
BUT OPJ STILL HAS A CHANCE!
Yes please. I am so on the OPJ bandwagon! (If he's healthy). Would be absolutely perfect fit here at SF.
@"Scott41theMavs" I don't know if it makes you feel better, but my prediction for their top target is still Hayward.
(11-02-2020, 05:44 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 04:46 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 04:44 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.
I concur. This, or something very similar, is still the mostly likely scenario, imo.
You're both probably right. So Mavs, and so bad. Green is terrible, I have a sense that the Mavs are out on Dipo, and Schroder comes with a lot of baggage off the court and in the locker room that the Mavs will want to avoid (and have dynamically avoided in the past, it was so bad).
I'd rather have another year of Wright than see our last FRS before Luka's extension completely flushed down the toilet on the rotting corpse of Danny Green. Just put me out of my misery if that happens. Edit: I still haven't stated it strongly enough - ***as important as it is to get out from under Wright's contract, since Green probably gets rotation minutes if he comes here, and because he is so abominably bad at this stage of his career that he dynamically costs us wins in 2020-21, I would be angry if the Mavs traded Wright for Green straight up, much less Wright and 31, far less Wright and 18***. Vomit, vomit, vomit. I'd rather we paid Courtney Lee a big one year deal and gave him rotation minutes than acquiring Green. So terrible.
Hard pass on Green. Maybe as a salary dump for Powell/Wright. Haha. That would be enough for me to pull that trigger. SOOOO much future salary erased. Of course, that would get spit back at us. But I would do it.
(11-02-2020, 06:45 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]@"Scott41theMavs" I don't know if it makes you feel better, but my prediction for their top target is still Hayward.
On the expiring? Or on a SnT?
(11-02-2020, 06:50 PM)Mavsfan12 Wrote: [ -> ]On the expiring? Or on a SnT?
Sign and trade seems the most plausible to me.
(11-02-2020, 06:57 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 06:50 PM)Mavsfan12 Wrote: [ -> ]On the expiring? Or on a SnT?
Sign and trade seems the most plausible to me.
I see... hmmm. I don't see Hayward leaving enough salary on the table this season to take the kind of salary that I think the mavs would want him to take to make it happen. They aren't going to finish off the cap situation with a long term Gordon Hayward contract.
Not going to lie, I could root for him, but I would be disappointed.