(11-01-2021, 02:19 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Why don't you create a 2022 DRAFT thread?
I didn't i know i can. I will then in next days but i think more of topic of interesting players not just draft prospects. Non Nba players exactly.
(11-01-2021, 11:40 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: [ -> ]You complain that we screw up every offseason and your plan is to put every egg in the next offseason basket?
If this board was based on what we think the front office will actually do, our annual FREE AGENCY and DRAFT 20XX thread would be locked after the opening post as unnecessary spam. Yet somehow we always end up with hundreds of pages before they punt on the draft and overpay somebody on the MLE.
(11-03-2021, 12:05 AM)chaparral Wrote: [ -> ]Darn, we have to wait that long? Dec 15th is 21 games for now...
I don’t get it, no, we don’t have to. We have plenty of players that didn’t sign over the offseason to make a trade.
I will be surprised if both DFS and Bullock are on the team next year. I just can't figure out which one is kept and how they improve the roster moving one. I need to watch much more of Bullock to get a real feel for his game. He has been what I expected minus a little worse shooter so far, but it is really early. DFS has gotten off to slow start. IMO both guys would be ideal as high minute bench players. I just don't think you can pay both 10 million a year when you really need a wing who can create. At the same time losing DFS for nothing means losing a productive part while getting nothing in return.
The trouble with finding a trade with DFS is he is in the last year of a very team friendly contract. I can't imagine he would attract much from a team considering he is going to want a contract probably closer to Bullock's this offseason.
I just don't think the best use of resources to keep both. I guess if the Mavs found a do it all PF type player and another guard creator, you could potentially keep both. But finding that type of PF type is really hard.
(11-03-2021, 07:19 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]I will be surprised if both DFS and Bullock are on the team next year. I just can't figure out which one is kept and how they improve the roster moving one. I need to watch much more of Bullock to get a real feel for his game. He has been what I expected minus a little worse shooter so far, but it is really early. DFS has gotten off to slow start. IMO both guys would be ideal as high minute bench players. I just don't think you can pay both 10 million a year when you really need a wing who can create. At the same time losing DFS for nothing means losing a productive part while getting nothing in return.
The trouble with finding a trade with DFS is he is in the last year of a very team friendly contract. I can't imagine he would attract much from a team considering he is going to want a contract probably closer to Bullock's this offseason.
I just don't think the best use of resources to keep both. I guess if the Mavs found a do it all PF type player and another guard creator, you could potentially keep both. But finding that type of PF type is really hard.
added to above, this # will get better. But when you are playing limited players such as DFS and Bullock this number needs to be substantially higher. Add this to the fact that most of the other players can't attack and it is bad news.
https://twitter.com/iztok_franko/status/...1467598854
https://twitter.com/iztok_franko/status/...9514230785
https://twitter.com/iztok_franko/status/...4799575041
Yeah, those open looks not going down is REALLY hurting 1) the team's offensive efficiency/confidence and 2) Luka's impact, since he is generating good looks that turn into nothing.
I am assuming KP returns and plays consistently (I know a stretch at this point) and plays well enough at the PF spot. I am unsure if that is his position long term but hopefully we get a good look at him there.
So does these two moves move the needle short term at all:
1) Derrick Favors to start at Center. Powell goes back to your 4th big. WCS is either moved, released or put in a deep bench role to play in certain matchups. Is there a move using the TPE and giving up a future second round pick?
2) Goran Dragic as a buy out candidate replacing Burke. Jalen is moved into the starting lineup and Hardaway goes back into the 6th man role.
In time, the Mavs will have a move to do their Jrue Holiday type move. I don't think they can do that move now. And when they go all in, they need their roster to be further along. Right now, they need to improve around the edges by finding undervalued talent, improving from within, and continued development of young talent, and not downplaying the draft. The Heat are a good team to copy. They develop talent within their organization and find spare parts who really fit into their style of play.
I wanted a KP trade at the deadline, in the summer and still want to move on asap. But I don´t think the Mavs are even considering it. For once because he probably has negative value. But also because I expect them (I think mostly Cuban) to go for another big move. Be it a trade that uses KPs contract to match salaries when he has less years left (maybe even expires). Or free agency after a salary dump or in 2023 ( maybe not until 2024, the player option is a killer, really hope that whoever was responsible was fired in the summer) when KPs contract expires.
I don´t think the Mavs changed their (Cubans) approach. They just added different. Hopefully better recruiters.
(11-03-2021, 10:33 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]I wanted a KP trade at the deadline, in the summer and still want to move on asap. But I don´t think the Mavs are even considering it. For once because he probably has negative value. But also because I expect them (I think mostly Cuban) to go for another big move. Be it a trade that uses KPs contract to match salaries when he has less years left (maybe even expires). Or free agency after a salary dump or in 2023 ( maybe not until 2024, the player option is a killer, really hope that whoever was responsible was fired in the summer) when KPs contract expires.
I don´t think the Mavs changed their (Cubans) approach. They just added different. Hopefully better recruiters.
You might be right, but I hope you are wrong.
My gut says that Nico is going to have more authority and will be able to more easily convince Cuban of his game plan than Donnie was. I frankly think Cuban thought Donnie was dumber than he was and I get the impression that alpha-Nico will be able to go toe-to-toe with Cuban and convince him of new directions. Shoot, if Parsons was able to convince Cuban he knew what was up, then Nico should be able to. I just really think Cuban didn't respect Donnie's intelligence.
I don't think Nico will pull the trigger on KP "just because" unless the Mavs slide out of the playoff hunt. Nico seems to be a hard negotiator and so I anticipate him really looking hard at deals for KP before he takes one. BUT I still predict that Nico will trade KP by this summer and really shake up this roster in the process, bringing in "his guys." It frankly wouldn't shock me if ALL the starters that began this season (KP, DP, DFS, THJ) are all traded by this summer. Honestly I am expecting and guessing that KP, DP, JB, and DFS are all traded.
(11-03-2021, 09:09 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]In time, the Mavs will have a move to do their Jrue Holiday type move. I don't think they can do that move now.
One thing that still doesn't get enough attention is how much the protections on the 2023 pick we owe the Knicks are hurting us right now. Our player assets are all very average and we have no valuable picks to be able to throw into any deal. The best we can do is 2027 and 2029 FRP (anyone feel free to correct me on that).
Moving KP now seems pointless. As it stands, he will not return any value. He's a player that has lost his impact on the court, will only be available 60% of the time if you are lucky and is on a very rich contract. You'd probably need to attach assets to him for expiring contracts or take on an equally undesirable player/contract (even thought he salaries don't match, John Wall and/or Westbrook). It just feels like we are stuck with him.
(11-03-2021, 01:33 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Moving KP now seems pointless. As it stands, he will not return any value. He's a player that has lost his impact on the court, will only be available 60% of the time if you are lucky and is on a very rich contract. You'd probably need to attach assets to him for expiring contracts or take on an equally undesirable player/contract (even thought he salaries don't match, John Wall and/or Westbrook). It just feels like we are stuck with him.
This team is trash. At this point...give me Westbrook if Lakers would be dumb enough to do that trade.
Westbrook plays...and I believe has a contract one year shorter than KP.
Let us all take a moment and appreciate Jalen Brunson. I've got to be honest and say that I somehow expected that kind of play from him. We saw the same thing from him last season, but in a smaller scale. I find it bizzare that the fans treat the Mavs players as if they have little to no room for improvement, while all the other teams have amazing prospects that'll be better then our whole roster in no time. Let's enjoy and appreciate what we have!
That being said, Brunson's game reminds me of a player's game we all hoped to get this offseason - Goran Dragić. They are both left-handed, both crafty scorers who know how to score in the paint, both have a floater/midrange game, and some playmaking. They share the same strenghts and scoring repertoire.
I think that JB is a serious 6MOY candidate, if he loses his starter job. And he really isn't that expensive with his new potential contract IMO.
I think the Mavs are better off keeping/extending JB. He has shown improvement every season, and he still has room to grow. I wouldn't include him in any potential KP trade, as that would be selling him low...
The Mavs also must not be desperate to trade KP, as he is a negative asset at the moment. We don't have the luxury to spend assets, as we are low on them. We can't get an impact player in the return for KP IMO
I wonder how Hardaway would handle being moved back to the bench if everyone is healthy.
It definitely feels like if things are clicking that our best lineup is Luka/Brunson/DFS/Maxi/KP.
(11-04-2021, 10:27 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder how Hardaway would handle being moved back to the bench if everyone is healthy.
It definitely feels like if things are clicking that our best lineup is Luka/Brunson/DFS/Maxi/KP.
Only problem is, who is the PG off the bench and don't say Burke! Would love to use the TPE and a couple seconds for Coby White for that purpose, I'm sure Chi is looking for more compensation than that though.
(11-04-2021, 08:49 AM)juanc Wrote: [ -> ]I think the Mavs are better off keeping/extending JB. He has shown improvement every season, and he still has room to grow.
Definitely looks great.
As I understand it, there is some feeling that Brunson is interested in looking for greener pastures. Coop tweeted something about it today, in answer to a comment about Jalen's contract.
Said the Mavs have bird rights, so will be able to offer Jalen whatever amount of money it takes. But the question is really more about JB's wanting the opportunity to run his own team. Coop compared the situation to James Harden wanting out of OKC.
(11-04-2021, 10:59 AM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]Definitely looks great.
As I understand it, there is some feeling that Brunson is interested in looking for greener pastures. Coop tweeted something about it today, in answer to a comment about Jalen's contract.
Said the Mavs have bird rights, so will be able to offer Jalen whatever amount of money it takes. But the question is really more about JB's wanting the opportunity to run his own team. Coop compared the situation to James Harden wanting out of OKC.
Was playing around with a JB to SA type deal, found something I liked when adding Mem into the mix. Wonder if a Murray/JB duo would work for Pop and JB.
(11-04-2021, 11:03 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]Was playing around with a JB to SA type deal, found something I liked when adding Mem into the mix. Wonder if a Murray/JB duo would work for Pop and JB.
Would Murray/JB present the same issue as Luka/JB?