(06-17-2022, 07:22 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I’m holding out for PJ Washington
I;m holding out for PJ Brown to come out of retirement. He is about the same age as Tucker I think.
(06-17-2022, 07:22 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I’m holding out for PJ Washington
He’s no longer a possibility IMO but he would be my favorite addition to this squad, if it happened.
(06-17-2022, 07:27 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I;m holding out for PJ Brown to come out of retirement. He is about the same age as Tucker I think.
I’ll wait to get into my PJ’s.
(06-17-2022, 07:27 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I;m holding out for PJ Brown to come out of retirement. He is about the same age as Tucker I think.
The peanut butter addict.
(06-17-2022, 04:53 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]I think the general consensus is he would be a good add and the TPMLE is right around the right contract value for him. The issue is prying him from GSW.
They also will want to resign GP2 who they don't have bird rights for either. Given the choice I think they will pay GP2.
PJ Brown = Championship. Just ask the Celtics. PJ Carlesimo is available to coach, but he chokes.
I agree about GP2 Jay. Also Otto is always injured. Guy is an old 29.
What about Royce O’Neale into the Richardson TPE with Josh Green sent back to Utah (subsequent O’Neale TPE)?
(06-17-2022, 05:56 PM)loki Wrote: [ -> ]That's never been my impression of his defense. Wasn't he the primary defender on Kawhi when Denver came back from 3-1 down? At a glance stats like EPM and on/off seem to like him as a defender as well.
Yes Grant was known as a good 3&D player in Denver.
Ultimately I suspect the Mavs don't really have a shot at him because Detroit won't be interested in picks 3 and 5 years from now. They want a 1st NOW.
(06-18-2022, 01:04 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]Yes Grant was known as a good 3&D player in Denver.
Ultimately I suspect the Mavs don't really have a shot at him because Detroit won't be interested in picks 3 and 5 years from now. They want a 1st NOW.
I think you're most likely right. On the other hand, I was surprised that the 26th pick was enough to land Wood. I've probably been underestimating how much an expiring deal can hurt the trade value of a good player. We'll find out on draft night if Detroit is willing to settle for something like a mid-1st rounder now or if they want to drag it out to the trade deadline. The longer it goes, the greater the Mavs' chance to get involved.
(06-18-2022, 01:49 AM)loki Wrote: [ -> ]I think you're most likely right. On the other hand, I was surprised that the 26th pick was enough to land Wood. I've probably been underestimating how much an expiring deal can hurt the trade value of a good player. We'll find out on draft night if Detroit is willing to settle for something like a mid-1st rounder now or if they want to drag it out to the trade deadline. The longer it goes, the greater the Mavs' chance to get involved.
A number of posters have said they'd be out on THJ + two 1sts. But what if the price was THJ, Green, and one future 1st?
(06-18-2022, 01:52 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]A number of posters have said they'd be out on THJ + two 1sts. But what if the price was THJ, Green, and one future 1st?
That's the deal I've had in mind as well. For one 1st I think I'd lean towards pulling the trigger if it's an extend-and-trade at a reasonable price. Presumably if Grant is willing to extend they've already had the conversation about his role on the team and are satisfied that he would fit right in.
Danny Green knows he is at risk of getting cut and receiving $0 since his whole $10mil is NGTD. So, he makes it known to Dallas that they can buy him out and only pay him $1mil in order to help Philly get Boban as a third team in the Wood trade (Philly guarantees the second year of DG’s deal, trades him and an asset {future second} to Dallas in the TPE, and DG gives Dallas 9 million back as a buyout)
Dallas essentially buys a future second for $1mil, Danny Green makes $1 million more than he would’ve without the trade, Philly gets a C they wouldn’t have been able to get and a 6.5mil TPE, and Houston gets something from Philly for Boban.
(06-18-2022, 02:07 AM)loki Wrote: [ -> ]That's the deal I've had in mind as well. For one 1st I think I'd lean towards pulling the trigger if it's an extend-and-trade at a reasonable price. Presumably if Grant is willing to extend they've already had the conversation about his role on the team and are satisfied that he would fit right in.
I will say that if Grant is willing to play like this again, I would be all-in on him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t876bTFVbgE
What about Andre Drummond as the back up big to use against the bigger 5’s in the playoffs. I can’t recall if he’s a standout defender but I do know he’s a plus rebounder and a bigger body that this team is lacking there.
It’s probably just me, but does anyone else here want to get both our picks back that the Knicks own? Getting our 23 back is the obvious first thought. I know it’s weird, but ever since Reddish was traded to the Knicks (and seeing that cost to acquire him), I can’t stop thinking about wanting him. Getting our Doncic traded pick back would be a nice addition to this team too I think!
(06-18-2022, 01:52 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]A number of posters have said they'd be out on THJ + two 1sts. But what if the price was THJ, Green, and one future 1st?
That's actually worse. Don't give up on Green too early just because he he shit the bed as bad as Brunson did last year in his first playoffs, he made serious strides last year. Large chance the players in that extra pick is less valuable than Green unless something really goes wrong in that season. Josh Green is still only 21 and has plenty of time to take another step forward
We saw Gobert fumble the pass to him and play timid when he had the ball in his hands. That’s why I am mostly out on him. I don’t think there is any upside to his offense and with him getting older, there is only downside to his defense. I would love to see us get in on Capela if Atl trades him. I think he would be a great defensive anchor for our team with Wood snd Kleber being the weakside help rim protection.
(06-17-2022, 02:06 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]
REGULARS DEEP BACKUP/DEVELOP
BIGS (48 mins) Wood, Kleber Powell
CREATOR (96 mins) Luka
Dinwiddie Dragic
Brunson
WING (96 mins) DFS Bertans
THJ
Bullock Green, Franky, Pinson
Players on a "one-year minimum" give the easiest-to-swallow financial cost for a team paying well above the tax, and only last for a year and then do it again (or not.) However, "all we have is the txMLE and we want a player who wants to be part of our core" has the potential to entice that bargain deal that gets some great value for 3 years from a ring chaser. If you can find that guy worth the big MLE or more, and lock him up for 3 years, you'll be glad you did.
As many have said, if you assume Powell stays, the thing that is missing is a big wing closer in size to DFS than THJ, Green and Frank. I'm a bit dubious that they will spend the TP-MLE, but maybe Cuban is inspired by the turnaround and more willing to let go of money than I'm anticipating.
I used to really like Otto Porter, and would like him still if I felt I could trust his health. Some FA names I like beside Porter if we are thinking Dallas will spend some or all of the TP MLE:
Thaddeus Jones
Kyle Anderson
Taj Gibson (if NY doesn't guarantee)
Taurean Prince
Here lately, it seems like everyone has some relationship back to someone in the organization. It might pay to do some "contract tracing" of FA's and trade candidates to various people in the coaching staff.
RE: Luxury Tax & Roster Construction
I know others like @"DanSchwartzgan" have looked at this in detail but I was just revisiting it in my thoughts.
The Mavs are currently $7M in the luxury tax zone.....WITHOUT Brunson signed.
If JB has a starting salary of $18M then the Mavs will be $25M in the luxury tax zone. I think this means they pay ~$66M for that $25M.
Point being: I have a really hard time thinking they will not cut salary in some other place.
I really think SD, THJ, or DP will be outgoing in some sort of salary saving trade this offseason. Those three guys will not be able to have a role worthy to justify their salary and the luxury tax.
For me, it’s probably easiest to start with who the Mavs are likely to move to figure out who they would get. That’s how one could figure out the KP trade beforehand. There actually weren’t that many legal reasonable player combinations coming back that fit. Based on a combination of trade value and redundancy, I’d say the following guys are most likely to be moved:
1) Widdie. Classic sell high. Redundant roster piece. The Mavs did a good job of rehabbing his value. I’d move him since THJ is more likely to recover his form than have any real trade value right now and the Mavs can probably get Dragic for point guard depth.
2) Powell/Maxi. If the Mavs bring in a more defensive big to pair with Wood (preferably a guy who can also stretch the floor), then they could and should move on from one or both. Powell now has an expiring contract and Maxi actually also would be a sell high. I believe in his late regular season finish more than his playoff performance as the harbinger of what’s to come. He’s a player in decline.
3) Green. Perfect filler who’s young and shown enough flashes to sell to a team’s fan base, but let’s face it, he’s not good and never will be. Frankie is the better prospect as a fourth wing.
Who do some combination of those guys bring back? That’s the question. There’s fewer reasonable, non pipe dream options than you’d think plugging numbers into a trade machine. A return engagement by Barnes? Turner? JRandle (no thanks). I’m sure the Mavs do this 24/7 and have some more creative options, but Nico has his work cut out. I’d ship all four of those guys out while you can. I think the players coming back would be better.