(02-05-2022, 01:44 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]From the article: "Matching salary in a deal for McCollum's $30.8 could be problematic for the Mavs. Dallas doesn't appear to have the combination of short-term salary, plus young prospects to put together a deal for McCollum. The Mavs have also been reluctant to part with either Jalen Brunson or Dorian Finney-Smith in trades before next week's deadline."
Dallas has $12.5mm in potential expiring contracts -- Maxi, Frank, and Moses (all non-guaranteed next year). THJ being hurt would help their tank and his declining deal could also be seen as a positive by a team looking for cap savings. And Dallas also has a TPE just big enough to take back Nance to save them even more.
THJ+Maxi for McCollum+Nance thus works financially, and would save Portland $23mm next year assuming they let Maxi go. As for young talent, Green and Moses could be easily tossed in as cheap assets. For a team like Portland in firesale mode, I think Dallas has more to offer than the author understands.
Now whether Dallas is willing to eat an even bigger luxury tax bill next season is another issue. But if they are, then that could be an interesting opportunistic framework to improve the team.
I think Orlando would be interested to jump in with expiring Harris, if THJ salary is a problem for Portland. Price would be likely a FRP. So the question is, if Portland is satisfied with something like Harris and Green or would they require more. Desperate New Orleans might be a problematic competitior.
(02-05-2022, 01:52 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]I think Orlando would be interested to jump in with expiring Harris, if THJ salary is a problem for Portland. Price would be likely a FRP. So the question is, if Portland is satisfied with something like Harris and Green or would they require more. Desperate New Orleans might be a problematic competitior.
Another wrinkle we might be overlooking is what CJ wants himself. If you're McCollum would you rather go to the bottom dweller Pelicans who seemingly are the place where careers die. Or go to the Mavs who are currently a 5th seed and would really need your scoring?
If CJ says his preference is Dallas then the Mavs might get by on a seemingly weaker package.
(02-05-2022, 02:03 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Another wrinkle we might be overlooking is what CJ wants himself. If you're McCollum would you rather go to the bottom dweller Pelicans who seemingly are the place where careers die. Or go to the Mavs who are currently a 5th seed and would really need your scoring?
If CJ says his preference is Dallas then the Mavs might get by on a seemingly weaker package.
Not saying it means anything but CJ and Nico are close from what i remember. I could see Portland doing right by him and sending to Dallas over a bottom dweller
(02-05-2022, 02:13 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: [ -> ]Not saying it means anything but CJ and Nico are close from what i remember. I could see Portland doing right by him and sending to Dallas over a bottom dweller
That could certainly play a part. Its a player driven league and I hope Mavs can improve the desireability of the destination
(02-05-2022, 01:44 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]THJ+Maxi for McCollum+Nance thus works financially, and would save Portland $23mm next year assuming they let Maxi go. As for young talent, Green and Moses could be easily tossed in as cheap assets. For a team like Portland in firesale mode, I think Dallas has more to offer than the author understands.
This actually doesn't work financially until you throw in both of Green and Moses and I would think that a first would be included on our end as well.
I would definitely do this though.
EDIT: Josh Green is actually enough to make the contracts work so you don't necessarily need to add Moses. Nance also fits into the TPE if the Blazers are trying to shed as much money as possible. I'm a big proponent of Nance, I'd rather have him AND Maxi but I would think that the Blazers would rather get Maxi if Nance were on his way out to have someone with that skillset on the books for next year.
(02-05-2022, 02:13 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: [ -> ]Not saying it means anything but CJ and Nico are close from what i remember. I could see Portland doing right by him and sending to Dallas over a bottom dweller
I had no idea the CJ and Nico relationship. The fact that CJ even tweeted out a personal congrats to Nico is definitely interesting.
Didn't the Blazers also want Jason Kidd as a head coach?
(02-05-2022, 02:37 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]I had no idea the CJ and Nico relationship. The fact that CJ even tweeted out a personal congrats to Nico is definitely interesting.
Didn't the Blazers also want Jason Kidd as a head coach?
Nico seemed to be a regular at Blazers games since he was a Nike employee. He was the first person Dame came up to after he sent the Thunder home in the playoffs. There's definitely lines of communication there.
I also don't know if the Blazers wanted Kidd but Dame did come out and say that Kidd was his preference.
(02-05-2022, 02:37 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: [ -> ]This actually doesn't work financially
It does, if you take Nance in the TE
(02-05-2022, 02:37 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: [ -> ]This actually doesn't work financially until you throw in both of Green and Moses and I would think that a first would be included on our end as well.
What omahen said.
It's actually 2 legal deals. THJ/Maxi for McCollum and Nance into the TPE.
(02-05-2022, 02:42 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]What omahen said.
It's actually 2 legal deals. THJ/Maxi for McCollum and Nance into the TPE.
Haha ya sorry I can't read and was actually editing my post as this was sent.
Looking at the Blazers books, if they moved CJ and Nance and we redirected Harris their way they'd basically only have Dame, Little and Simons on contract next season....
(02-05-2022, 02:48 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: [ -> ]they'd basically only have Dame, Little and Simons on contract next season....
Simons is also expiring
But they do have a guy named Greg Brown the third on their roster that has 2 more years on his deal
Since CJ is basically a done deal
... the big question actually is - are we ok if his buddy Lillard wants to join him in a year or so?
(02-05-2022, 02:49 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Since CJ is basically a done deal ... the big question actually is - are we ok if his buddy Lillard wants to join him in a year or so?
Luka/Dame/CJ would be such a supernova on offense that defense wouldn't even matter.
(02-05-2022, 02:49 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Simons is also expiring But they do have a guy named Greg Brown the third on their roster that has 2 more years on his deal
Ya was mostly operating under the assuming that he'll be there under a new contract since they've been so vocal about making him a bigger part of the franchise.
Looks like Andrew Nicholson is on the books next year as well. And I didn't even think about Bledsoe and Keon Johnson.
Really the question to me is if you're trading away Nance, then you probably don't want Maxi. They're such similar players on the same salaries so what's the point in swapping them?
(02-05-2022, 03:01 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: [ -> ]Really the question to me is if you're trading away Nance, then you probably don't want Maxi. They're such similar players on the same salaries so what's the point in swapping them?
Money. Maxi's salary next season is not guaranteed.
(02-05-2022, 03:04 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]Money. Maxi's salary next season is not guaranteed.
Ya but if that was the case and they were planning on just waiving him at a lower cost then they'd probably construct a trade without him at all. You could just do Hardaway/Green/Moses/FRP to CJ and Nance into the TPE and that saves them even more money.
If it was really about Money then I would assume it's more like Hardaway and a second to Orlando and Harris to Portland with Green and a future pick.
(02-05-2022, 03:09 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: [ -> ]would assume it's more like Hardaway and a second to Orlando
I don't think anyone would take 70 mil of salary (or whatever is left on THJ deal) for a second rounder. FRP certainly. It cost BKN four second rounders to dump to Detroit the remaining DAJ contract at 10 mil per year.
Speaking about Nance - I would be perfectly satisfied with the TDL if Mavs just acquired him from Portland paying a SRP or something. Of course the move increases our tax problems next season, but its not my money
(02-05-2022, 03:11 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think anyone would take 70 mil of salary (or whatever is left on THJ deal) for a second rounder. FRP certainly. It cost BKN four second rounders to dump to Detroit the remaining DAJ contract at 10 mil per year.
I disagree here. Hardaway's contract isn't as bad after this year as everyone on this board claims. Harris is an expiring and is not good at basketball, no on is offering anything of real value for him (in my opinion). Orlando can't attract free agents and Harris is going to walk for nothing most likely. Also, the money remaining this season is a wash between Harris and Hardaway so that aspect of the contract shouldn't really come into play. If you told Orlando that they could shop the open market for a shooter to replace Harris' minutes or they could have Hardaway for 3 years at 53 mil this offseason...I think they'd be happy with Hardaway. Not to mention the Mosley ties.