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(08-10-2021, 07:25 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Moses/Green into a Houston TPE and Sterling/Augustin into a Dallas TPE with Garuba not counting as salary yet.  In the end, the only part that matters here is Green for Garuba and getting a band-aid for a year at the backup PG slot.

Maybe add to that a Powell + Burke for Gordon? I know he's overpaid, but he can fill a role as a 6th man and has tons of experience.

Luka/Brunson/Augustin
THJ/Gordon/Terry
DFS/Bullock/Brown
Kleber/Garuba
Porzingis/WCS/Boban/Brown
(08-10-2021, 07:35 AM)HAguiar95 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe add to that a Powell + Burke for Gordon? I know he's overpaid, but he can fill a role as a 6th man and has tons of experience.

Sure.  And/or, does securing Garuba as a backup PF make sending Maxi for Markkanen more palatable?

Kamm:  Garuba doesn't have his buyout yet and can't play SL until he does.  BTW, does anyone believe that Josh Green is so worn out from the Olympics that he can't play in SL games?
(08-10-2021, 07:30 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/AdamJWexler/status/1...7750630401

Incoming wishful thinking alert:

Do we know how Silas felt about Powell? Does Powell work for Garuba/Brown, money-wise?
(08-10-2021, 07:40 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Garuba doesn't have his buyout yet and can't play SL until he does.  BTW, does anyone believe that Josh Green is so worn out from the Olympics that he can't play in SL games?


So Green for Garuba swap?
(08-10-2021, 07:51 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]So Green for Garuba swap?

If Dragic isn't happening, I could see value in Augustin.  There are a dozen different combo's that could happen, but that swap is the main point for me.  Green won't take minutes from Bullock or Sterling.  Garuba could grow into the prototype of what you want next to KP.
https://twitter.com/sportando/status/142...96455?s=21

Looks like the buyout is complete.

I would have LOVED Garuba on the Mavs, too, but I think the moment to go for him was on draft night.
(08-10-2021, 08:25 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]If Dragic isn't happening, I could see value in Augustin.  There are a dozen different combo's that could happen, but that swap is the main point for me.  Green won't take minutes from Bullock or Sterling.  Garuba could grow into the prototype of what you want next to KP.

Interesting.  I have good expectations for Green, but the new leadership cannot be beholden to the previous regime decisions.    I understand they are indicating patience, but this new regime needs to make move they think are the best for the franchise.   

Garuba vs Green seems equal.  Both are really raw, but provide similar positives.   Defense, energy, athleticism.   

I would  really prefer to hold onto Green but he is our one asset that may have some value.  I expect Green to be with the team and get some minutes next year, but I agree it is odd that he is not playing in summer league.  If he is good enough to practice, I am not sure why you don't throw him out there for a few games.

edit- I just don't see Houston moving him though.  They universally had an excellent draft from the "draft experts".   Their first two picks looked great in their first G-league game.    I would be surprised if anything is there, but interesting theory to discuss.
Even the Mayor is unhappy with the current state of the roster. 

https://twitter.com/Johnson4Dallas/statu...37701?s=20

https://twitter.com/iztok_franko/status/...52075?s=20

I hope KP is listening.
(08-10-2021, 12:05 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I hope KP is listening.


It wouldn't surprise me that if we were to ask Luka to diagnose the Mavs problems he would say that it is mostly a chemistry issue and not a talent issue.
(08-10-2021, 12:10 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]It wouldn't surprise me that if we were to ask Luka to diagnose the Mavs problems he would say that it is mostly a chemistry issue and not a talent issue.


I mean, he basically just did. 

He's only 22, so I wouldn't take it as the definitive right answer, but I for sure think he just diplomatically stated that he believes it's the right answer.
(08-10-2021, 12:10 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]It wouldn't surprise me that if we were to ask Luka to diagnose the Mavs problems he would say that it is mostly a chemistry issue and not a talent issue.

Well it´s probably both, but given that Luka´s only points of comparison are Real Madrid and Slovenia teams that were highly successful and run by true professionals and seemingly great veterans, then he comes into this Mavs shitshow from Cuban, Bob, Donnie and Carlisle fighting amongst each other and with the players, plus veteran "leaders" like DeAndre Jordan and Wesley Matthews.

It´s hardly a surprise that he thinks this is not how it´s supposed to work. I am the least concerned about the on-court and off-court issues with Porzingis. Those were imho a result of the overall team culture. I am worried whether Porzingis can be as good and healthy a basketball player as we need him to be.
(08-10-2021, 12:39 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]I am the least concerned about the on-court and off-court issues with Porzingis. Those were imho a result of the overall team culture. I am worried whether Porzingis can be as good and healthy a basketball player as we need him to be.


So do you think the needed changes have happened?
(08-10-2021, 12:54 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]So do you think the needed changes have happened?

I think it´s healthy for the team culture that they replaced Carlisle, cause I think the (non-) responses from both sides to the split, were very telling.

This whole situation with the FO obviously spilled over onto the team starting with the draft night fiasco. So I sincerely hope that either Bob is gone or firmly put in his place. There are no sucessful FOs that constantly fight amongst each other. They argue, find solutions and compromise, but not the BS that´s been seemingly going on here for the last few months or years (?).

I´ll say this though. Regardless of all the in-fighting the evaluation of the whole scouting department would be my #1 priority.
(08-10-2021, 01:05 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: [ -> ]Who says  Chicago is even privy to that deal? They might not even want Maxi, but someone else. Honest question.


CHI has 1 center and 1 power forward on their roster. I think that's why they're playing such hardball with Lauri. They desperately need help at the 4 and 5, and there isn't anyone left to fix that. So sign a disgruntled Lauri for a year and push the problem to next year. 

Maxi would undoubtedly (or at least should) pique their interest.
(08-10-2021, 01:09 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]CHI has 1 center and 1 power forward on their roster. I think that's why they're playing such hardball with Lauri. They desperately need help at the 4 and 5, and there isn't anyone left to fix that. So sign a disgruntled Lauri for a year and push the problem to next year. 

Maxi would undoubtedly (or at least should) pique their interest.

Come on CHI, you'd love DP and WCS!!!
Update with Sterling Brown's official numbers:

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Cuban to Fish on if DSJ could return...

“We don’t have (any open) roster spots yet,” Cuban tells DallasBasketball.com when asked about potentially bringing Smith Jr. back. “But if that changes, it's a conversation to have.”

Fish drew attention to the word "yet"...

https://www.si.com/nba/mavericks/news/nb...jr-reunion
(08-10-2021, 02:06 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Update with Sterling Brown's official numbers:

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Great Chart.

Doesn't the TPE count against the cap also?
Zach Lowe recaps our offseason.  I agree with him that a large part of our future success will be based on getting a more productive KP....either to stay longterm here or trade in the future.    

Dallas fans are tired of the Mavericks doing pretty well in free agency after teasing grand plans. I get that. We don't need to recite the free agents who spurned the Mavericks, or the draft assets Dallas forfeited to crack open cap space.
Unwinding the Josh Richardson trade was painful -- an admission of its failure, and of wanderlust for Seth Curry. I liked that trade at the time for both teams. Richardson represented the two-way wing to shore up Dallas' defense and maybe provide secondary creation around the overburdened Luka Doncic.
Reggie Bullock is an archetypal 3-and-D wing with a quick release. (Richardson's slow release was an under-discussed problem.) Bullock brings zero off-the-bounce juice, but he's fine on a 3-year, $30 million deal.
The Mavs brought back Tim Hardaway Jr. on what should be a tradable contract. He has grown into a knockdown shooter who can pump-and-go, and run some pick-and-roll. He's not a good defender, but he tries and has improved.
I've been beating the Sterling Brown drum for years. He's 6-5, can guard three positions, and hit 42% from deep last season. That will likely prove a fluke; Brown was a league-average 3-point shooter before busting out in Houston. He's not as reliable on defense as you might think given his size and versatility, but he has the outlines of a rotation reserve on a good team.
None of this is as exciting as an alternate reality with Kyle Lowry next to Doncic.
Chasing Lowry evinced an internal belief that the Mavs were one player away from title contention. That was an appropriate mindset. Doncic is that good already.
Surrounding Doncic with shooters is the right Plan B, even if it does not resolve the issue of Doncic wearing down late in playoff games because no one else can orchestrate. (There is hope Jalen Brunson becomes that relief orchestrator, but his size is a detriment against elite postseason defenses.) The Mavs are loaded with good role players on value contracts -- grist for trades, even if the Mavs (pending a Kristaps Porzingis revival) don't have the blue-chip players to get in on superstar trades.

Dallas still has semi-reasonable pathways to Goran Dragic, though they are surely wary of surrendering more picks after forking over two in the Porzingis deal.
And that's what everything boils down to: The Mavs have a hard ceiling as long as the gap between their best and second-best players is gargantuan. Porzingis can shrink that gap by finding his groove again on defense, and playing more center. The Mavs can shrink it by trading Porzingis for someone better, but they won't manage that unless Porzingis rounds back into form.
The Mavs made their bed by punting on the first round of the draft for years (they have done well in the second, and excelled with undrafted free agents) and then dealing their remaining equity for Porzingis. They have reprioritized the draft over the past two offseasons, though the results are TBD.
The Mavs are in a bit of a holding pattern around Doncic. But they will be a dangerous playoff team, and they are doing well on the fringes while in that holding pattern. That is the only way to break out of it.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_...-offseason

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ChicagojkZach Lowe recaps our offseason.  I agree with him that a large part of our future success will be based on getting a more productive KP....either to stay longterm here or trade in the future.    

Dallas fans are tired of the Mavericks doing pretty well in free agency after teasing grand plans. I get that. We don't need to recite the free agents who spurned the Mavericks, or the draft assets Dallas forfeited to crack open cap space.
Unwinding the Josh Richardson trade was painful -- an admission of its failure, and of wanderlust for Seth Curry. I liked that trade at the time for both teams. Richardson represented the two-way wing to shore up Dallas' defense and maybe provide secondary creation around the overburdened Luka Doncic.
Reggie Bullock is an archetypal 3-and-D wing with a quick release. (Richardson's slow release was an under-discussed problem.) Bullock brings zero off-the-bounce juice, but he's fine on a 3-year, $30 million deal.
The Mavs brought back Tim Hardaway Jr. on what should be a tradable contract. He has grown into a knockdown shooter who can pump-and-go, and run some pick-and-roll. He's not a good defender, but he tries and has improved.
I've been beating the Sterling Brown drum for years. He's 6-5, can guard three positions, and hit 42% from deep last season. That will likely prove a fluke; Brown was a league-average 3-point shooter before busting out in Houston. He's not as reliable on defense as you might think given his size and versatility, but he has the outlines of a rotation reserve on a good team.
None of this is as exciting as an alternate reality with Kyle Lowry next to Doncic.
Chasing Lowry evinced an internal belief that the Mavs were one player away from title contention. That was an appropriate mindset. Doncic is that good already.
Surrounding Doncic with shooters is the right Plan B, even if it does not resolve the issue of Doncic wearing down late in playoff games because no one else can orchestrate. (There is hope Jalen Brunson becomes that relief orchestrator, but his size is a detriment against elite postseason defenses.) The Mavs are loaded with good role players on value contracts -- grist for trades, even if the Mavs (pending a Kristaps Porzingis revival) don't have the blue-chip players to get in on superstar trades.

Dallas still has semi-reasonable pathways to Goran Dragic, though they are surely wary of surrendering more picks after forking over two in the Porzingis deal.
And that's what everything boils down to: The Mavs have a hard ceiling as long as the gap between their best and second-best players is gargantuan. Porzingis can shrink that gap by finding his groove again on defense, and playing more center. The Mavs can shrink it by trading Porzingis for someone better, but they won't manage that unless Porzingis rounds back into form.
The Mavs made their bed by punting on the first round of the draft for years (they have done well in the second, and excelled with undrafted free agents) and then dealing their remaining equity for Porzingis. They have reprioritized the draft over the past two offseasons, though the results are TBD.
The Mavs are in a bit of a holding pattern around Doncic. But they will be a dangerous playoff team, and they are doing well on the fringes while in that holding pattern. That is the only way to break out of it.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_...-offseason
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Wow...that didn't work.   It is an insider article that I got from somewhere else.  It was a good detailed writeup.  Sorry.