What if the MBT could somehow keep the WCF team together and add an instant offense sixth man candidate on the wing to compliment the DFS + Bullock combo?
Ideally he might be a deadly 3pt shooter who can bring something to the table that DFS and Bullock don't, like the ability to handle and attack closeouts when teams double our ball handlers and dare our wings to make 20 threes per game. Even better, Dallas might look for a solid, team-first veteran who has playoff experience, who won't shrink from the moment. A tough as nails type, who was the second best player on a couple of playoff teams. That would be awesome.
What if they could ALSO add a big center to give them 15 minutes in the playoffs? A guy who will set bone crushing screens, offensive rebound, and might block a shot or two when teams decide to zone up and shut down Powell's lob game?
Here's my offseason plan:
Resign Brunson
Select the best player available at 26
Integrate Tim Hardaway Jr
Sign one of the many UFA centers like Drummond, Howard, McGee, Whiteside or similar for $2 million
(06-01-2022, 10:04 AM)vfromlmf Wrote: [ -> ]What if the MBT could somehow keep the WCF team together and add an instant offense sixth man candidate on the wing to compliment the DFS + Bullock combo?
Ideally he might be a deadly 3pt shooter who can bring something to the table that DFS and Bullock don't, like the ability to handle and attack closeouts when teams double our ball handlers and dare our wings to make 20 threes per game. Even better, Dallas might look for a solid, team-first veteran who has playoff experience, who won't shrink from the moment. A tough as nails type, who was the second best player on a couple of playoff teams. That would be awesome.
What if they could ALSO add a big center to give them 15 minutes in the playoffs? A guy who will set bone crushing screens, offensive rebound, and might block a shot or two when teams decide to zone up and shut down Powell's lob game?
Here's my offseason plan:
Resign Brunson
Select the best player available at 26
Integrate Tim Hardaway Jr
Sign one of the many UFA centers like Drummond, Howard, McGee, Whiteside or similar for $2 million
I think this is a realistic path. I just hope we are able to grab a higher tier Center/PF type somehow. I guess we would still have the trading deadline, but I feel like those centers are pretty limited in the playoffs and we would find ourselves in the same spot in the playoffs of being really thin in the front court.
(06-01-2022, 09:16 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]I think the odds Powell is back next year over being moved. I think he is a good culture guy and a "innings eater" in the regular season. His playoff run was so disappointing though. It is tough to get past that.
If he is moved, he is not an asset to teams. He is just salary filler and expiring. I believe Maxi, Josh Green, pick #26, and future firsts are our assets. There is not a lot there, but for most of the names I am hearing you will probably need at least two of those to be moved...maybe more. Maybe I am wrong. But thinking Powell is going to be asset because he is expiring is a faulty thought process for me. Now maybe include him with the listed assets above could work. The Mavs offers can be beat in a lot of competitive players too. It would really help, if the player prefers Dallas though.
The Mav’s have talked in the past about a “bullpen” approach at center. So, if they simply add a guy at about the same level as Powell and Maxi, but who has a complimentary skill, then Powell likely stays.
But, if the idea is for the new center to be someone above and beyond Powell/Maxi, then some assets have to be outgoing…and some salary. I agree that Powell doesn’t inspire any team to action. He’s just an expiring means to an end. But, he is the only contract of any size besides Maxi that doesn’t run multi-year.
I think the bigger question is Hardaway. Does anyone view him as an asset? I thought the mention about the resignation of the front office guy who pushed to keep THJ was interesting. Maybe he’s the outgoing along with an asset or two for that center who is better than Maxi or Powell. I’d like to see him here rotating with the other wings. He might provide something valuable. But, it isn’t like we didn’t have success without him and don’t have young developmental guys coming up behind him.
One other thing to add to the center discussion is the agent perspective. Arguably the number one job of an agent is getting a player to a place where there is enough leverage to get the most money possible. That isn’t always the current team. Duffy would be well served to get Turner to a different team where his Bird rights are important. Same with the agents for any 2023 big man FA’s (Poeltl, Zubac, Noel, Adams and Vuc.). Not all of those are Dallas fits, but I could see some of those guys moving this summer.
Would love to add Poeltl, but SA has absolutely no use for our draft pick this year. Plus, Poeltl would probably be an important element to any team they trade with to get a bigger fish like Ayton or Collins. Not sure why Atlanta or Phoenix would need anything we have either (other than maybe Maxi or a defensive wing).
I’m kindof tired of hearing about all these cheerleaders on the roster that bring great team culture for so many years. I don’t get how much importance that has crept into the roster building culture. We HAVE to keep Pinson and Boban on the roster? WTF is that? They aren’t getting playing time but they are integral to what we are doing? It’s as if we’ve found the special sauce. News flash, we haven’t found the special sauce.
Those spots are being used like Cuban’s end of draft picks. Speaking of which, I’m sure Satnam would love to make $3.5M to sit on the bench and cheer the team on. Better yet, why not have a fan raffle for the 15th man on the roster. I’m sure whoever gets picked can feed energy into the team with well timed jokes and great big hugs for every little thing someone does. Powell just got a rebound? HUGE hug from the 15th man as if he just won us the game (sorry for the example, Powell getting 1 rebound isn’t a small thing, it’s HUGE for him).
It’s almost as if this is an acknowledged position in the NBA. I’m sure if we go back through the history of NBA champions, we’ll find players like this, right? Also, why do we need lockerroom leaders when we have emotional safety blankets in Boban and Pinson? Are they trained and certified emotional support pets, if so, they get to fly free with the team!
What really is Jared Dudley’s job if this team is full of “lockerroom guys”?
(06-01-2022, 10:18 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]I think the bigger question is Hardaway. Does anyone view him as an asset?
THJ isn't a perfect player by any means but is Jordan Clarkson an asset? What about Dinwiddie? Cam Johnson? Derek White? Luke Kennard? Bogdan? Oubre? Melton? Even Quickley?
THJ has a bit higher salary but he's a vet with demonstrated playoff success. His contract is about right plus it's a team friendly declining deal.
You're not going to get a star for THJ in trade, but of course he is an asset. He'd get 24+ minutes on every playoff team in the East and most of the West including Dallas.
Any interest in Kevin Love? Maybe a change of scenery would help? 28 million expiring. Cavs would probably move him for a comparable priced/contract length wing/shooter. I thought for years, Love would wind up here after his deal ran out. Not sure anymore. AT times he looks like he has plenty left. Other times, he looks like he is well past his prime.
(06-01-2022, 09:05 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]I am prepared with the idea that Powell is going to hang around in some kind of role bc Mavs like him as a culture guy
Maybe I am just seeing what I want to see. But I bet he's gone, if they find a replacement. Powell has reached his expiration date, with his play in the playoffs. And the Mavs have shown the willingness to bite the bullet when "great guy" doesn't fit in their plans.
While we see only his flaws, some other team is likely to look at the combo of "great guy" and 70% FG pct and on-court hustle and energy and see him as a plus, I think.
Barnes was traded to SAC. Great guy. Many positives. But when he no longer was in their plans, whoosh, off you go.
(06-01-2022, 10:04 AM)vfromlmf Wrote: [ -> ]What if the MBT could somehow keep the WCF team together and add an instant offense sixth man candidate on the wing to compliment the DFS + Bullock combo?
Ideally he might be a deadly 3pt shooter who can bring something to the table that DFS and Bullock don't, like the ability to handle and attack closeouts when teams double our ball handlers and dare our wings to make 20 threes per game. Even better, Dallas might look for a solid, team-first veteran who has playoff experience, who won't shrink from the moment. A tough as nails type, who was the second best player on a couple of playoff teams. That would be awesome.
What if they could ALSO add a big center to give them 15 minutes in the playoffs? A guy who will set bone crushing screens, offensive rebound, and might block a shot or two when teams decide to zone up and shut down Powell's lob game?
Here's my offseason plan:
Resign Brunson
Select the best player available at 26
Integrate Tim Hardaway Jr
Sign one of the many UFA centers like Drummond, Howard, McGee, Whiteside or similar for $2 million
I'm on board with all of this except that we have the tax MLE to spend on that center and I would rather go after a younger guy with some upside (Hartenstein, Jalen Smith) than a mid 30s vet that can't really move any more.
I wonder if WAS wants to get off of Gafford's contract, now that they have KP taking the minutes, and if so, what he might cost. He might be seen as too expensive for a backup in WAS. But his big raise doesn't hit until next season.
His contract has a future big extension. So Mavs can send pick and/or small salary player like Green, Brown, etc. but the salary jumps in 2023.
It doesn't move Powell, but it might address the need for a better center.
(06-01-2022, 12:57 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]Gafford
Definitely on board with chasing Gafford to an extent.
(06-01-2022, 12:57 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if WAS wants to get off of Gafford's contract, now that they have KP taking the minutes, and if so, what he might cost. He might be seen as too expensive for a backup in WAS. But his big raise doesn't hit until next season.
His contract is poison pill, with a future big extension junking up the trade match, but I think he fits in the Mavs TPE, which makes it easy. So Mavs can send pick and/or small salary player like Green, Brown, etc.
It doesn't move Powell, but it might address the need for a better center.
He is an interesting name and someone i have always been impressed with when he has played against us.
Washington is full of Wings. The actually have a really deep roster of playable guys. Maybe they decide to get rid of a big to free up playing time with KP making the big money at C? Thomas Bryant is also a FA. He could be a buy low candidate too. Although he is much more offense than defense....plus coming off an injury the previous year.
(06-01-2022, 12:42 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]I'm on board with all of this except that we have the tax MLE to spend on that center and I would rather go after a younger guy with some upside (Hartenstein, Jalen Smith) than a mid 30s vet that can't really move any more.
I don't know enough about Hartenstein. He has been mentioned here before, but I just don't have a good grasp on him. I believe LAC may have an interest in re-signing him. If true, that probably means Zubac's option isn't picked up. I would also have an interest in Zubac. Not a perfect player but capable of playing a solid 20-25 minutes at center.
(06-01-2022, 10:24 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]I’m kindof tired of hearing about all these cheerleaders on the roster that bring great team culture for so many years. I don’t get how much importance that has crept into the roster building culture. We HAVE to keep Pinson and Boban on the roster? WTF is that? They aren’t getting playing time but they are integral to what we are doing? It’s as if we’ve found the special sauce. News flash, we haven’t found the special sauce.
Those spots are being used like Cuban’s end of draft picks. Speaking of which, I’m sure Satnam would love to make $3.5M to sit on the bench and cheer the team on. Better yet, why not have a fan raffle for the 15th man on the roster. I’m sure whoever gets picked can feed energy into the team with well timed jokes and great big hugs for every little thing someone does. Powell just got a rebound? HUGE hug from the 15th man as if he just won us the game (sorry for the example, Powell getting 1 rebound isn’t a small thing, it’s HUGE for him).
It’s almost as if this is an acknowledged position in the NBA. I’m sure if we go back through the history of NBA champions, we’ll find players like this, right? Also, why do we need lockerroom leaders when we have emotional safety blankets in Boban and Pinson? Are they trained and certified emotional support pets, if so, they get to fly free with the team!
What really is Jared Dudley’s job if this team is full of “lockerroom guys”?
Pinson is peanuts. Powell was overpaid but if I squint hard enough, I get why they did it and at least he pays. Boban 2nd contract was a mistake, but again I can understand why they did. You shouldn't have three of those guys on your bench and you shouldn't overpay them. Powell can be useful, especially if you can get him on a veteran minimum for his next contract. I'd keep Pinson around too with the goal of transitioning him to the coaching staff eventually. Boban to me is the odd man out. And maybe all three of them wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have Burke, Brown and Chriss giving you little to no minutes. We just have two many small salaried players with no upside taking up roster spots.
(06-01-2022, 11:59 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Any interest in Kevin Love? Maybe a change of scenery would help? 28 million expiring. Cavs would probably move him for a comparable priced/contract length wing/shooter. I thought for years, Love would wind up here after his deal ran out. Not sure anymore. AT times he looks like he has plenty left. Other times, he looks like he is well past his prime.
+could give you minutes in the Powell/Bertans/Maxi rotation.
+even at his age becomes your best non-Luka rebounder.
-Defense?
-Does he eliminate Bertans playing time further diminishing his trade value?
Cuban does have a relationship with him.
(06-01-2022, 12:57 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if WAS wants to get off of Gafford's contract, now that they have KP taking the minutes, and if so, what he might cost. He might be seen as too expensive for a backup in WAS. But his big raise doesn't hit until next season.
His contract has a future big extension. So Mavs can send pick and/or small salary player like Green, Brown, etc. but the salary jumps in 2023.
It doesn't move Powell, but it might address the need for a better center.
If he is at all available they should have tried to somehow include him in the KP trade. That would have made a ton of sense.
(06-01-2022, 02:37 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]If he is at all available they should have tried to somehow include him in the KP trade. That would have made a ton of sense.
Maybe, but no. At the time, Gafford couldn't be traded at all. He had a can't-trade restriction that ended at about the end of the season. That has now ended.
(06-01-2022, 02:46 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe, but no. At the time, Gafford couldn't be traded at all. He had a can't-trade restriction that ended at about the end of the season. That has now ended.
I like this Gafford idea a lot. I also would like to entertain a Lauri for Bertans + 1 trade as Cleveland has too many bigs atm.
Gafford for Green, Lauri for Bertans + pick.
I've seen the talk about salary cap restrictions if you S&T Brunson, but if you just sign him then trade after December 15th but before the TDL, are the team's cap restrictions still in place?