(02-08-2023, 02:58 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Stealing and expanding upon a Nick Angsted idea from the podcast today…
Phoenix gets KAT/McGee, gives up Ayton/Crowder/First
Minnesota gives KAT, gets Wood/THJ/Two Firsts
Dallas gets Ayton/Crowder, gives up Wood/THJ/McGee/First
The theory is Phoenix would want KAT over Ayton enough to give up a first for him. Minnesota doesn’t want Ayton next to Rudy, so they take Wood/THJ and firsts. Dallas is happy to trade Wood/THJ/McGee and a first for Ayton/Rudy. His idea, I only added the McGee for Crowder part. I thought it was kind of interesting.
I like the trade from our perspective, but I don't see enough going to Minnesota.
(02-08-2023, 03:04 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: [ -> ]I like the trade from our perspective, but I don't see enough going to Minnesota.
Yeah, it’s creative and realistic enough to be plausible, but I agree. Ultimately, I bet Towns inspires better bids.
(02-08-2023, 01:08 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]https://streamable.com/ffigki
This is why they're contemplating it
He would be a beast 20 years ago. It's sad seeing him try to be a 2023 big. He did have a huge game a few nights ago.
(02-08-2023, 02:58 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Stealing and expanding upon a Nick Angsted idea from the podcast today…
Phoenix gets KAT/McGee, gives up Ayton/Crowder/First
Minnesota gives KAT, gets Wood/THJ/Two Firsts
Dallas gets Ayton/Crowder, gives up Wood/THJ/McGee/First
The theory is Phoenix would want KAT over Ayton enough to give up a first for him. Minnesota doesn’t want Ayton next to Rudy, so they take Wood/THJ and firsts. Dallas is happy to trade Wood/THJ/McGee and a first for Ayton/Rudy. His idea, I only added the McGee for Crowder part. I thought it was kind of interesting.
That's interesting. We get Ayton and Jae comes home.
I doubt Minny moves Towns so soon into the Gobert experiment.
The Gobert trade was terrible because of the assets they spent but I really think they played the wrong hand to begin with. They should have sold off Towns and D'Lo and built around Ant and some of those young pieces they threw away. Alternatively, they should have gone in on Mitchell instead of Gobert if they were determined to role with Towns. I freaking hate Towns though so have a huge bias.
(02-08-2023, 03:50 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Very interesting for all teams. I would imagine Westbrook I’d bought out. Where does he land?
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status...61154?s=61&t=li4FhxWHNDvHTNF2V5KRqA
This should improve the Lakers because Westbrick sucks now. He cannot shoot. He's still athletic, but he's no good in today's NBA.
(02-08-2023, 03:50 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Very interesting for all teams. I would imagine Westbrook I’d bought out. Where does he land?
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status...61154?s=61&t=li4FhxWHNDvHTNF2V5KRqA
The details of what else is leaving Utah will be interesting. Has to be at least one other higher salary guy (like Beasley) as Conley alone isn’t enough to be legal for Utah. It doesn’t all need to go to LAL though.
(02-08-2023, 04:13 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: [ -> ]This should improve the Lakers because Westbrick sucks now. He cannot shoot. He's still athletic, but he's no good in today's NBA.
1-day contract with the Thunder?
Laker draft compensation is more interesting. I don't see D'Lo changing their fortunes much save for locker room chemistry. Getting Conley would probably be the better get for them on the floor.
(02-08-2023, 04:20 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see D'Lo changing their fortunes much save for locker room chemistry.
Idk, he CAN play off ball, so that's a good start.
(02-08-2023, 03:40 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt Minny moves Towns so soon into the Gobert experiment.
The Gobert trade was terrible because of the assets they spent but I really think they played the wrong hand to begin with. They should have sold off Towns and D'Lo and built around Ant and some of those young pieces they threw away. Alternatively, they should have gone in on Mitchell instead of Gobert if they were determined to role with Towns. I freaking hate Towns though so have a huge bias.
They were dumb enough to think it'd work, I guess they're also dumb enough to see it through. Kat and Gobert in the same frontcourt would have been amazing... in 1991.
(02-08-2023, 03:50 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Very interesting for all teams. I would imagine Westbrook I’d bought out. Where does he land?
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status...61154?s=61&t=li4FhxWHNDvHTNF2V5KRqA
What makes you think they'll buy him out? Seems like their starting PG spot just opened up. Do they have some kid waiting on a role I'm not remembering?
Also, I'm going to choose to believe this bit of news means that Russell was the consolation target for whichever team, Mavs or Lakers, missed out on Irving.
(02-08-2023, 04:27 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Idk, he CAN play off ball, so that's a good start.
Westbrook's usage rate is 27.6. D'Angelo's is 22.5. Yes, he plays off the ball. IMO D'Angelo is the ideal combo guard with Lebron. This would be a huge coup for LAL.
Russell isn't expiring, is he?
This should be fairly welcome news for folks hoping Kyrie signs here long term, I'd think. No chance at cap space in LA now, right?
Hell, if the plan (or fallback plan) is to move Irving to LAL via sign and trade, I'd say Russell is for sure in that package now. There's a small chance, I suppose, that they targeted him because they think Dallas might like him.
(02-08-2023, 04:39 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]I'd be so mad if they get 3 great role players for Westbrook.
More fodder for this summer's big sign and trade!
(02-08-2023, 04:52 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Russell isn't expiring, is he?
This should be fairly welcome news for folks hoping Kyrie signs here long term, I'd think. No chance at cap space in LA now, right?
Hell, if the plan (or fallback plan) is to move Irving to LAL via sign and trade, I'd say Russell is for sure in that package now. There's a small chance, I suppose, that they targeted him because they think Dallas might like him.
Russell is expiring.
But Rui has eaten their cap-space to the point the most they can get even with this trade is around 25 mil.
(02-08-2023, 04:52 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Russell isn't expiring, is he?
This should be fairly welcome news for folks hoping Kyrie signs here long term, I'd think. No chance at cap space in LA now, right?
Hell, if the plan (or fallback plan) is to move Irving to LAL via sign and trade, I'd say Russell is for sure in that package now. There's a small chance, I suppose, that they targeted him because they think Dallas might like him.
He is expiring and Beasley has a team option. They can get Kyrie if that's what both parties want. Which is why if the rest of this season goes well, Mark will feel tremendous pressure to offer 4yrs 200 mill. Kyrie has proven he will use whatever leverage necessary to get paid.