What is this trade Bullock shit? He starts every season slow, it is who he is. It was the same last year. Honestly, I wasnt impressed last year too, but come playoff time he was detrimental to Mavs success last year. Him and DFS did all the hard lifting on defense (all due respect to Maxi), played 40 min every game, and were visibly exhausted by conference finals.
Its the same story for the last 4 years. We have been screaming for new frontcourt (Holmes, Wood, Collins, Turner, Portis, Lopez, Adebayo...) since 2019. It was obvious back then that we need 2, 3 modern big guys. That is still true, at least we got one of them now.
After that another ball handler, preferably a star. FO messed up with Brunson, at least we got SD for now. I lost my shit when we signed Dorsey AND Campazzo, but not Dragič. That was some properly retarded shit. I might be a little biased on that one, but i would rather have Dragič than the other two.
What is done is done. My preferable choice here would be Lillard, as a second star, but it will probably never happen.
We all agree on this needs, but in my opinion we also need one more wing (Dort, Bey...) to take load off DFS and Bullock. Green is not that guy and will never be. But i dont understand people wanting to trade Bullock, that would be a setback in my opinion.
Suma sumarum
Keep Luka, DFS, SD, Bullock, Kleber and Wood. Everybody else can be traded as far as I am concerned.
Get another modern Center and PF, Wing Backup, and than add a second star in the backcourt.
I think a team like this, build from names stated above, would be a contender.
The painful thing is all this was obvious back in 2018 when DSJ, DJ and Barnes got traded. By now every sheep farmer in Slovenia knows this, but not Cuban. Or maybe he is just cheap and poor. Its almost 2023 and DP IS STILL OUR STARTING CENTER FFS.
(11-17-2022, 10:20 AM)bodhisattva Wrote: [ -> ]What is this trade Bullock shit? He starts every season slow, it is who he is. It was the same last year. Honestly, I wasnt impressed last year too, but come playoff time he was detrimental to Mavs success last year. Him and DFS did all the hard lifting on defense (all due respect to Maxi), played 40 min every game, and were visibly exhausted by conference finals.
Even worse start than last year. And the concerning part is that not only his shooting is off. His defense has been worse than THJs.
https://twitter.com/NBAMemes/status/1554288207339999232
Bullock is getting close. Just needs to stay away from lose balls and long rebounds.
So far he dropped.
0pts / 1reb / 1ast / 2stl / 0blk in 22 minutes
0pts / 3reb / 0ast / 0stl / 0blk in 26 minutes
0pts / 3reb / 0ast / 0stl / 0blk in 33 minutes
Not enough to make history but thanks to his consistency he ranks last in the league in PER.
(11-17-2022, 10:30 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]Even worse start than last year. And the concerning part is that not only his shooting is off. His defense has been worse than THJs.
https://twitter.com/NBAMemes/status/1554288207339999232
Bullock is getting close. Just needs to stay away from lose balls and long rebounds.
So far he dropped.
0pts / 1reb / 1ast / 2stl / 0blk in 22 minutes
0pts / 3reb / 0ast / 0stl / 0blk in 26 minutes
0pts / 3reb / 0ast / 0stl / 0blk in 33 minutes
Not enough to make history but thanks to his consistency he ranks last in the league in PER.
I hear you brother. But its NBA. First 30 games or so are just a joke. Maybe you are right and he is on a downward spiral, and if that is the case I will change my opinion and I am all with you. But as far as Reggie goes, we wont know for another month or two and I am willing to reserve my judgment for now.
Hard truth is that DFS , Reggie and SD are not the youngest, or are in their primes you could say, so Mavs have maybe 2, 3 years with this "core" after that we wont just need 2, 3 players but a whole new team. Luka will be 25-27 by then. Thats the problem. Mavs FO is moving too slow in the last 4 years. That is what pisses me off.
Now you can focus on shooting % of individual players and this and that, but its the big picture that pisses me off.
We need Bullock to turn it around because his contract (or Dinwiddie) is the expiring that is going to have to be attached to all our picks this offseason once we finally convey our last porzingis pick. I still get the impression we’re basically punting this season until that moment.
My hope is that there is a fire to the OG Anuoby trade rumor smoke and this offseason we throw Bullock/McGee plus Hardy and a bunch of picks up to Canada. The raptors now don’t have to extend a disgruntled OG, get someone who plays the same way to slot into their defense and load up on picks for another big trade and we finally get our two way wing.
I would also hope we extend both Wood and Green before that happens, Powell gets a new contract that is similar to McGees now and then we can shop Hardaway or a newly extended Green to round out the frontcourt next trade deadline.
(11-17-2022, 08:22 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Kevin Love for Hardaway and Bullock? Would you do it? Would Cleveland? Bullock would be the real prize for Cleveland as a 3 and D. Not sure how well Love fits here but he is a skilled forward.
Dallas would clear some guys out paving out playing time for younger guys and still keeping our powder dry for one more piece.
I do wonder if the Mavs would ever be sellers. Would they even consider this? If Bullock plays better and Dallas views this year as a re-setting, would they move Bullock for a first or a younger player. Would Atlanta want another wing? Would they give up a youngster like AJ Griffin to do so?
If CLE threw in Lavert I'd 1000000000000000000000000000000% do it.
I don't think they'd consider it though.
(11-17-2022, 03:26 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status...3156898818
We trade KP only for a year later to trade for a guy with an even worse injury bug!
Genius!
Thing is Hayward isn't a bad player when healthy. His defense is a little suspect, but he's as dynamic of a scorer as we could feasibly get. But he's been out the last 2 weeks (7 games) with a shoulder injury. He's been averaging 51 games a year the last 3 years, and almost all of his missed games come at the end of the year due to him breaking down.
Unless CHO gives a guy like Mark Williams, PJ Washington, or Rozier, then any Hayward deal makes me queasy.
We need a third ball handler though and we’re not trading first rd picks until we have enough for the big trade. Not really any other assets. For all the talk about KP, almost the entire roster is negative contracts.
I saw Campazzo play at the end of the third quarter yesterday. That might be the worst thing I’ve ever seen. I just turned the TV off.
(11-17-2022, 06:17 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: [ -> ]We need a third ball handler though and we’re not trading first rd picks until we have enough for the big trade. Not really any other assets. For all the talk about KP, almost the entire roster is negative contracts.
I saw Campazzo play at the end of the third quarter yesterday. That might be the worst thing I’ve ever seen. I just turned the TV off.
It's still hard to fathom how they managed to botch the negotiation with Dragic so badly, a player who wanted to be here and wanted to fill the massive gaping hole they had with the defection of JB. And was willing to sign for the absolute minimum. And (considering talent, price, and availability) who was by far the best solution they could have ever imagined.
That continues to be stunning to think about. It says incredibly bad things about the expertise and competence of this front office.
(11-17-2022, 06:25 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]It's still hard to fathom how they managed to botch the negotiation with Dragic
The reporting is clear: Kidd said he didn't want Dragic and apparently what Kidd wants, happens in this current set up. Kidd should not have the GMing power he currently has. Amateur hour.
What about DRose... I read that he was not happy in his role... it shouldn't be very expensive and I think he would be good at Mavs... Anunoby I think it's more of a chimera, if the Raptors change it it will be to pack it + for an improvement ... it occurs to me... Lauri/Bullock to Raptors
Anunoby to Mavs
Hardy/Flyn/Mcgee/Mavs26/28 to Jazz
Hayward has always been empty calories. Not sure why we'd want the backside of his career.
(11-17-2022, 06:27 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]The reporting is clear: Kidd said he didn't want Dragic and .....
Amateur hour.
Amateur hour indeed by Cuban and his management setup.
How they got there, to make such an abominable choice in landing another useful playmaker to fill such a MASSIVE need, is no excuse. In fact, delegating the Dragic decision to an inferior decision-maker - a staff member being tasked to run out of their lane, so to speak - is yet another indictment on Cuban. It's not really about Kidd, because roster-building is NOT what a coach does. The fail here is in having a front office that is so inept in their player evaluation acumen that they think deferring to the coach has a better chance of success.
I said this before Nico The GM Trainee (and presumably the cheap option) was hired -- this league is ultra-competitive, it's GM-ruled, and if the Mavs want to be the BEST, they need to have The Best GM. Until Cuban is willing to hire and hand the reins to The Best GM - one who is as good as or better than the others at GM-y things - the Mavs will continue to have a significant handicap. The fact that Nico is a trainee in all those GM tasks, and Cuban is his trainer, doesn't offer any reason for optimism, unfortunately.
(11-17-2022, 06:27 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]The reporting is clear: Kidd said he didn't want Dragic and apparently what Kidd wants, happens in this current set up. Kidd should not have the GMing power he currently has. Amateur hour.
* Didn't want Dragic
* Possibly responsible for McGee signing
* Wood handling is poor
* Game time decisions questionable
What would it take to get this guy out of here.
(11-17-2022, 07:08 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Hayward has always been empty calories. Not sure why we'd want the backside of his career.
Agree to disagree on the "empty calories" part. He's an injury risk, sure, and that's not likely to improve as he gets older, but...people are on here all day every day screaming for more basketball skill and here's a guy who can floor the ball to great effect, make every pass in the game, score from all three levels, has good length and plays defense way above average. In fact, he'd probably be the Mavs' third best defender, behind DFS and Kleber, imo.
The amount of ball handling/playmaking in the rotation would be helped significantly. This is a dude they could actually run an offense through, even more so than Wood.
AND, he's SMART. When in doubt, pick up smart players. That's what I believe, anyway.
(11-17-2022, 09:16 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]The fact that Nico is a trainee in all those GM tasks, and Cuban is his trainer, doesn't offer any reason for optimism, unfortunately.
This is the perfect summation of their situation. It's not
impossible that Harrison will figure this out and do great things, because all signs point to him being a winner, in general, but it's that "and Cuban is his trainer" part that nags with worry.
(11-17-2022, 10:35 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Agree to disagree on the "empty calories" part. He's an injury risk, sure, and that's not likely to improve as he gets older, but...people are on here all day every day screaming for more basketball skill and here's a guy who can floor the ball to great effect, make every pass in the game, score from all three levels, has good length and plays defense way above average. In fact, he'd probably be the Mavs' third best defender, behind DFS and Kleber, imo. The amount of ball handling/playmaking in the rotation would be helped significantly. This is a dude they could actually run an offense through, even more so than Wood.
AND, he's SMART. When in doubt, pick up smart players. That's what I believe, anyway.
He´s also 33 in March. Older players that currently average more than 15 PPG: Bron, Durant, Curry, Lopez, Westbrook. Doesn´t get much better if you look for more than just 10 PPG. One of them is playing on a winning team right now. What are your expectations for the 30M you pay him at age 33/34? I can tell you one thing. Not better than Brunson.
(11-17-2022, 10:47 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]He´s also 33 in March. Older players that currently average more than 15 PPG: Bron, Durant, Curry, Lopez, Westbrook. Doesn´t get much better if you look for more than just 10 PPG. One of them is playing on a winning team right now. What are your expectations for the 30M you pay him at age 33/34? I can tell you one thing. Not better than Brunson.
I don’t think anyone expects him to be even as good as Brunson.
I think we’re desperate for anyone that can even average 12pts/4assists. Hayward is certainly better than that.
(11-17-2022, 09:16 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]Cuban
Sure, Cuban and Nico should not be letting Kidd make roster decisions. He has not shown any skill at making the right evals and decisions there.