(02-06-2023, 01:54 PM)JamesConway912 Wrote: [ -> ]Also when healthy LeVert can run a PnR somewhat efficiently. He’d be a solid fit alongside Hardy as the two bench guards. Allows Hardy to finish plays more than create them.
I REALLY hope we’ll come out of the trade deadline with clearly defined roles for Green as the starting SF and Hardy as a regular rotation guy.
I think the Levert trade would have already happened if Clevland was willing to do it straight up, and now we don't have a second to tip with. If we did end up with Levert I would prefer to turn him into Crowder or Covington if possible. They will likely stagger Luka and Kyrie's minutes so one is on the floor at all times, making Leverts limited creation abilities less important, and they are in desperate need of big wing defense.
I'm not sure Hardy is ready for regular rotation minutes (especially on a team that is clearly going for it now) but the roster is getting thin and we may not have a choice.
Do we have a player on the roster we could get a 2nd round pick for not named Green or Hardy? I guess Bullock maybe
(02-06-2023, 02:06 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: [ -> ]Do we have a player on the roster we could get a 2nd round pick for not named Green or Hardy? I guess Bullock maybe
I think Bullock for Covington + 2nd would be a fair trade, but this FO is not in the habit of taking in 2nds.
(02-06-2023, 02:09 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]I think Bullock for Covington + 2nd would be a fair trade, but this FO is not in the habit of taking in 2nds.
I like that trade. Then use the 2nd in a bigger trade.
(02-06-2023, 02:06 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: [ -> ]Do we have a player on the roster we could get a 2nd round pick for not named Green or Hardy? I guess Bullock maybe
Bullock has some value as a shooter, sure. The board's opinion of THJ changes weekly, but I bet his value around the league does not. He's probably the team's best tradable asset right now, outside of Green. I don't think he's a negative asset at all, and I think his contract is actually a positive for some teams. Powell for sure has value, especially since he's expiring. Kleber (if you were allowed to trade him) is probably worth a 1st.
(02-06-2023, 01:46 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ]So no discussion here of the radio report that the Mavs have a deal in principle with the Raps to be announced tomorrow involving Tim and Wood going for Siakam? I would assume that 27 and Green would be included. I'm 99% sure it's BS, but damn, fill out the roster with buy-outs and plan the parade if it did happen.
https://youtu.be/lD4sxxoJGkA
I think you got the wrong team trading for Siakam. We don't have the assets now.
(02-06-2023, 02:10 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Bullock has some value as a shooter, sure. The board's opinion of THJ changes weekly, but I bet his value around the league does not. He's probably the team's best tradable asset right now, outside of Green. I don't think he's a negative asset at all, and I think his contract is actually a positive for some teams. Powell for sure has value, especially since he's expiring. Kleber (if you were allowed to trade him) is probably worth a 1st.
We have been trying to give Timmy away and have been unsuccessful. I'm skeptical he has any real value. Powell has expiring filler value. I don't think you can get a first for Maxi with the bigger contract, age, limited minutes and current injury. Apparently there is very limited interest in Wood as well. I think we sent every decent player asset other than Green in the Kyrie trade.
(02-06-2023, 02:18 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]We have been trying to give Timmy away and have been unsuccessful.
Not sure I agree that there's evidence to support this.
(02-06-2023, 02:11 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]I think you got the wrong team trading for Siakam. We don't have the assets now.
It was a radio rumor. Supposedly on The Fan this morning. I put little stock in it, but was surprised it wasn't being mentioned here.
In any event, presuming the Mavs have no interest in un-tradeable Wood after the draft (i.e. the cheap 2-year extension or nothing, and he isn't taking that), I have no interest in dealing with the Clippers unless Zubac is coming back (even if it was with Norman Powell), and that seems unlikely, so unless he is combined with other players in a trade, I would rather they just kept him for this run and maybe look at re-signing him (or signing and trading him) in July.
Whether or not Wood is gone, it still seems that this team needs not one but two more deals. Too many things to resolve. I will be pretty grumpy if a second deal isn't announced today or Tuesday, leaving time for the third deal Thursday.
(02-06-2023, 02:21 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure I agree that there's evidence to support this.
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I'm with you. Got to hope in something right now.
I'll say this: IF the Mavs can land Siakim (I don't think they can, especially now), I'll start to get really interested in the immediate future.
But, I would've like that without Irving, too, so I'll be really upset if he ends up actually being available and we're confronted by the idea that Dallas valued Irving more than him.
(02-06-2023, 02:24 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I'll say this: IF the Mavs can land Siakim (I don't think they can, especially now), I'll start to get really interested in the immediate future.
But, I would've like that without Irving, too, so I'll be really upset if he ends up actually being available and we're confronted by the idea that Dallas valued Irving more than him.
We're talking about Cuban. He probably finds the off-court stuff with Kyrie fun.
(02-06-2023, 01:46 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ]So no discussion here of the radio report that the Mavs have a deal in principle with the Raps to be announced tomorrow involving Tim and Wood going for Siakam? I would assume that 27 and Green would be included. I'm 99% sure it's BS, but damn, fill out the roster with buy-outs and plan the parade if it did happen.
https://youtu.be/lD4sxxoJGkA
THJ, Wood, Hardy, Green for Siakam works trade wise. Throw in the 27 pick, but don't think that beats other offers. One can hope though!
(02-06-2023, 02:29 PM)Jmaciscool Wrote: [ -> ]THJ, Wood, Hardy, Green for Siakam works trade wise. Throw in the 27 pick, but don't think that beats other offers. One can hope though!
I love Green and would do this - so the Raps surely wouldn’t.
They are not getting Siakam. We are talking Mo Bamba, Gary Harris, Jarred Vanderbilt, Malik Beasley, Dario Saric, Jae Crowder type of players with our assets.
The window is NOW. It´s not next season. It´s now.So might as well trade everything in the next three days.
There is a reasonable chance >50% that the egomaniac Kyrie Irving will behave until he inked that 200/4 extension.
AFTER he signs that deal, ALL bets are off.
Now think about the fact that the Nets wanted three firsts for 36 year old CP3´s contract (62/2 after this season). That teams want two 1st round picks (plus two rotational players) for Westbrook´s EXPIRING 50M contract.
Now I let you figure out what the return would look like, when Kyrie goes home in early 2024 and demands a trade. He´s 32 years old, worst personality reputation in the league and sits on over $150M remaining. LOL. The trade value is worse than Bertans/McGee combined. Completely untradeable. $50M in dead money every year.
Luka is done here the moment, Kyrie throws his first hissy-fit. And if you don´t think Kyrie only cares about Kyrie you have not been paying attention for the last decade.
Now that I typed it out and you can quote me on the bolded part, when it happens, I have come to the conclusion that him leaving, possibly in a S&T for Hachimura + Lakers 1st round pick is the better outcome. Though I doubt there is a single team stupid enough to even offer him the 200/4, besides the Mavs. And the Mavs have to offer it, cause otherwise he´ll have an irrational meltdown that could range from retirement, China to Real Madrid, the Detroit Pistons or the Lakers on the minimum.
Vets who can defend 3-5 and could be available (none of them is worth 2027 pick imho):
- RoCo
- Morris
- Crowder
- Boucher
- Young (Toronto)
- Kennrich Williams
Low end:
- Gay
- Jeff Green
Pipedream:
- Jerami Grant (still no extension done with Portland)
How about: McGee+2027 for Green and Hyland. Mavs get the low end wing who can play some good minutes and 6th man?
Zubac+Kennard wouldn't be bad for Wood. Can we add THJ and they add RoCo? If Mavs give 2027 pick for that, I think a bit more should come from Clippers.
(02-06-2023, 03:01 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Vets who can defend 3-5 and could be available (none of them is worth 2027 pick imho):
- RoCo
- Morris
- Crowder
- Boucher
- Young (Toronto)
- Kennrich Williams
How many of them are expiring at season's end?
