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(08-16-2021, 10:14 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I 100% support both options. I think "peak Maxi" is behind us and the Mavs cashing in that developed player for a younger project with more potential is the right way to go IMO.

Seems like healthy Maxi, which includes his past few years of experience, could be peak Maxi again. 

I can understand having doubts that he can stay healthy, since he's been injured the past two years, but at 29 years old, I don't understand why "peak Maxi" would be dead and gone, unless he hasn't been able to fully heal.

(08-16-2021, 10:15 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]What does he suggest happens in the other 60-70%?

He doesn't mention what the other 60-70% means.   It seems like he was just throwing out a #.   He also mentioned another exec asked him if Dallas was holding out Green due to a future trade inclusion.   Cato doesn't believe this to be the case but doesn't offer hard evidence either.

(08-16-2021, 10:31 AM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]Seems like healthy Maxi, which includes his past few years of experience, could be peak Maxi again. 

I can understand having doubts that he can stay healthy, since he's been injured the past two years, but at 29 years old, I don't understand why "peak Maxi" would be dead and gone, unless he hasn't been able to fully heal.

I don't have any hard evidence to back up my opinion on this. I just think we have already seen his best. I could be dead wrong. It is just a gut feeling.

(08-16-2021, 10:51 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I don't have any hard evidence to back up my opinion on this. I just think we have already seen his best. I could be dead wrong. It is just a gut feeling.

Could it be what you ate last night? 

Awww..Markie Post died a few days ago...

(08-16-2021, 10:58 AM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]Could it be what you ate last night?

Ha!

I just think the Mavs have had a long history of holding on to their assets too long and letting them depreciate. I hope Nico changes that and cashes in on the Mavs assets more regularly.

(08-15-2021, 08:58 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]^ That's why I hated the Green pick.  I don't see the offensive ceiling.  The shot is a work in progress.  He has no handles.  He's a poor finisher in traffic.  I do see some vision/passing ability.  

At #18, either take a polished guy (Saddiq or Quickley) or take a guy that has a higher ceiling (Maxey or RJ Hampton type).

You're going to wait 3-4 years on Green to become a role player and by that time if you're successful, he'll likely be expensive to retain.

Agreed. I got ripped on for comparing Green to Justin Anderson when we drafted him. From what we've seen so far if anything, he's a poor man's Justin Anderson. 

We're on the clock to put a good team around Doncic, Green's two years away from being two years away if that. We need guys who can help now

(08-16-2021, 10:51 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I don't have any hard evidence to back up my opinion on this. I just think we have already seen his best. I could be dead wrong. It is just a gut feeling.

I think we've seen what he will be for the next 2-3 years. A 22 mpg guy who should come off the bench. If he has to start, he needs to stick to that 22 mpg. Any more than that and he turns into a pumpkin. He is at his plateau.

(08-16-2021, 11:23 AM)MrGoat Wrote: [ -> ]he's a poor man's Justin Anderson

seems like Green is missing a shot, which is a big deal...JA was missiing a lot more. He turned out to be a great athlete that didn't really have an NBA level game

watch them both move around the court and Green looks like a basketball player and Justin looked like he was just kinda running around doing stuff

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(08-16-2021, 11:29 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]He is at his plateau

If his plateau is healthy Maxi, then the plateau is nice, though

Center sized, defends big wings, knocks down 3 pointers....we're always talking about how in the world to land someone like that

(08-16-2021, 11:30 AM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]If his plateau is healthy Maxi, then the plateau is nice, though

Center sized, defends big wings, knocks down 3 pointers....we're always talking about how in the world to land someone like that

Look, I don't WANT to give up Maxi and hope Nico finds a way. But I don't want to miss on someone like LM by holding too tight to Maxi. That is all.

(08-16-2021, 11:30 AM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]seems like Green is missing a shot, which is a big deal...JA was missiing a lot more. He turned out to be a great athlete that didn't really have an NBA level game

watch them both move around the court and Green looks like a basketball player and Justin looked like he was just kinda running around doing stuff

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If his plateau is healthy Maxi, then the plateau is nice, though

Center sized, defends big wings, knocks down 3 pointers....we're always talking about how in the world to land someone like that

I'd say Maxi is center height, but he doesn't use that weight like a center IMO. He and Powell constantly get pushed around. I think that's their issue with rebounding.

Paying Lauri 15 mil a year (> TPE money), while giving up Maxi screams Seth Curry part 2. Luka better comes back after the summer looking like Ben Simmons, if the plan is a Lauri/KP FC. Start both and hope defense is better than the Blazers?

He had 2 down years in a row. 15 mill is an overpay. Handing out contracts based on potential is dangerous. You are giving up a starter for a development project, who drawn as much interest as Dennis Schroeder in free agency.

Personally i dont think DFS should play full time starting PF. If the idea is to bring Lauri of the bench.

(08-16-2021, 12:08 PM)sefant Wrote: [ -> ]Paying Lauri 15 mil a year (> TPE money), while giving up Maxi screams Seth Curry part 2. Luka better comes back after the summer looking like Ben Simmons, if the plan is a Lauri/KP FC. Start both and hope defense is better than the Blazers?

He had 2 down years in a row. 15 mill is an overpay. Handing out contracts based on potential is dangerous. You are giving up a starter for a development project, who drawn as much interest as Dennis Schroeder in free agency.

Personally i dont think DFS should play full time starting PF. If the idea is to bring Lauri of the bench.

Aren´t we overrating "starter" Maxi Kleber a bit? I know all  the good stuff he does, but he also averaged 1.0 PPG, 2.8 RPG, 0.5 APG, 0.5 SPG, 0.0 BPG shooting 9/11/100 (one FT) over the last four play-off games in the Clippers series. Those are numbers that would make Andre Roberson look bad.

A trade does leave us with the TPE that we can use to trade for a player at the deadline, that would be bought out otherwise. Say Favours wants to keep his whole 9.8M salary and in a vet min buyout the Thunder still have to pay him like $7M. If the Mavs offer the Thunder the TPE + $6M in cash, they save $3.2M. I think that´s a pretty easy decision to make for the Thunder. Call me crazy but Markkanen/Favours > Kleber. Assuming Dragic really wants to come here after a buyout, our play-off team could look like this:

Luka/Dragic
Bullock/Brunson
DFS/THJ
Powell/Markkanen
Porzingis/Favours

Mix and match, whatever you need. I don´t know, but that looks like a team that might have a chance to compete for the title, if everything goes perfectly. It´s certainly a team that is not immediately dead and buried in the 1st round again, if Porzingis suffers another injury.

(08-16-2021, 01:41 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: [ -> ]https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5B...@._V1_.jpg

I might just be slow and missing something, but what is this in reference to?

(08-16-2021, 01:57 PM)Jmaciscool Wrote: [ -> ]I might just be slow and missing something, but what is this in reference to?

Maxi trade rumors...

(08-16-2021, 11:38 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Look, I don't WANT to give up Maxi and hope Nico finds a way. But I don't want to miss on someone like LM by holding too tight to Maxi. That is all.

Then you have a really high hope/expectation for LM. Is there a way for you to explain how good you think LM is? 

I wish I watched more basketball. I cannot say what I think. But I watch Maxi and consider him a sure bet. So if we give up on a sure bet, what do you believe LM can provide?

We got Maxi Powell and Moses rumored in trade talks currently...

We might start the season with a healthy amount of centers...