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(08-10-2021, 04:30 AM)Borkhan Wrote: [ -> ]I am from Slovenia, so my knowledge of NBA is slim. But I even if Dragic is a Slovenian, I am not sure he is the best solution. First thing first, Mavs are just waiting for him to be bought out, but who knows if an another team is more interested; they will not wait like mavs?

Also, I miss a proper analysis of Goran's impact at Heat in the last seasons, because, even if he is a proper and true sportsman, living a sports life, father time is creeping on him too; in playtime and injuries. I am also not sure about synergy between Luka and Goran. Yes, they are friends, but up till this year  in Slovenian team Goran was the boss and Luka just listened. Are they both capable to completely exchange roles (and egos)? Stars and players in general are prickly and what will happen when Luka starts to berate his former "boss" (from the last year) during the game? So, forget about friends and so and let us check facts, if Goran is really what Mavs needs. I hope so, but I am not sure as I do not have the analytics knowlege and nba statistics to check that. And I also definitely do not claim to have any personal or other knowledge at all about Luka or Goran, so this it is all my personal conjecture (and fear).

To quote Halfnir "Trey Burke and Ty Terry who qualify as PG in some manner"; I think Mavs needs a playmaker/ball handler who is justs that, and not only in "some manner", with all due respect.

I wrote a lot about this question because: 1. I think it is the number one problem for Mavs and 2. Instead of solving that all discussion is suddenly about shooters, wings and centers, which is nice, but certainly does not solve the main problem, that is, to find another ball handler to help Luka.

Hi Borkhan,

I’ve enjoyed reading your posts. I want to add my thoughts to your discussion.

On paper if you look at Mavs roster they have Luka who is obviously a 35 minute player and will play exclusively as PG. 

Continuing with the ‘on paper’ theme, Brunson is a 25 min per night rotation player that is good enough to situationally start, has shown over 3 seasons to be capable to run the back up PG in the regular season, and could step in and play 30+ minutes in a temporary role if he had to.

Further on paper, Trey Burke who is primarily a situational scorer, is also a solid situational point guard. If Brunson went down for some temporary amount of time, Burke would be a reasonable fill in. 

Lastly on paper is Tyrell Terry. There is not much to be written about him at this point. He’s a development guy, a G-league guy, but if he were called up to fill Trey Burke’s role as a situational scorer and situational back up PG, it might be okay. 

Now for the bridge test. If any one thing went wrong for a short while, mavs have a plan^, but if two things go wrong, Mavs are up river without a paddle. 

Is this secondary consideration an emergency? No. But it is a concern. And one I’d imagine they’d address when they get to that bridge.

So in summary I think the PG line up is well-planned, it has an initial margin of safety but not a large one, and I see that as a problem that can get resolved in time(not currently an emergency)

Lastly, your point about wearing Luka down is a good one. And I think Mavs have to play a delicate balance here. He’s young and developing as a superstar, so his usage should be as high as the player can handle, but consideration should also be made to his longevity and playoff stamina, so there must be some give of usage by Luka to make this work. And Luka must also keep improving his body. He does not yet appear to keep a veteran nba body/conditioning. Once he gets there, we will know even more about his usage. 

In the end you are right, he needs some help! And Mavs are trying. They were locked onto Dragic and it appears he’s getting away, but I think they have some margin of safety and can take the season to find the solution.

(08-10-2021, 10:21 AM)DallasBasketball Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t see Boban as a deal to make Luka happy.

I think as fans we don’t understand what players are worth to a team. We see Boban as an end of the bench also-ran, or some sort of locker room vet player-coach. But I think MGMT sees him differently.

To MGMT he’s a mismatch and an automatic bucket. I’ve called him a gimmick which is unfair but only bc he’s SUCH a unique player. 7’6 is a supply/demand issue. And when he plays, he’s productive. He just can’t play big minutes. So he’s sort of this specialty tool we keep on our tool belt. 

Maybe there’s not a lot of interest from other teams but go and nickel and dime every player who comes through your franchise and players will take notice.

The problem is he is getting older and his production in limited minutes fell off last year.  Based on his recent play (and expected future play) he is a vet min at best and probably not worth the roster spot.  I think the deal is for the locker room and specifically his relationship with Luka.

Sorry if already posted, but this was great:

https://twitter.com/themavsguy/status/14...80141?s=21

(08-10-2021, 10:44 AM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]The problem is he is getting older and his production in limited minutes fell off last year.  Based on his recent play (and expected future play) he is a vet min at best and probably not worth the roster spot.  I think the deal is for the locker room and specifically his relationship with Luka.

Maybe we should compromise to say his production is 1a and leadership 1b.

If that’s how they are paying him, his first 2 mil is vet min production, and the 2nd half is his bonus for leadership. ;

I don't think Boban is just there because Luka needs some kind of security blanket. 

Players scattered all over the NBA rave about Boban and say that he's THE BEST teammate in the NBA. I think it might be more accruate to say that one reason Boban was brought back was for the TEAM. 

He's a 3rd string center who has the superpower of contributing greatly to the health of a lockerroom. He keeps those vibes emaculate.

(08-10-2021, 08:54 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1425086042768556038

The replies are not kind.

Not one single person agreed with Cuban...

(08-10-2021, 02:42 AM)sefant Wrote: [ -> ]WCS actually rather underpaid tbh. +7.6 on/off is kinda good

With WCS on the floor the Mavs had the equivalent of the 5th best defense in the league last season. Not sure why WCS has such a "bad rep".

He has a bad rep because if you have eyes and watch him play, you'll understand that more often than not he isn't very good at basketball.  He looks like a world beater 10% of the time, like he belongs on any team 40% of the time and like he should be out of the league 50% of the time.

(08-10-2021, 11:58 AM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]He has a bad rep because if you have eyes and watch him play, you'll understand that more often than not he isn't very good at basketball.  He looks like a world beater 10% of the time, like he belongs on any team 40% of the time and like he should be out of the league 50% of the time.

Ha I think you are both right. Whenever I watch WCS, even the plays he completes successfully it doesn´t look very convincing. Powell is probably the opposite. All the limited stuff he does, he does very convincingly, while with WCS to the naked eye it looks messy. Say he goes up for an offensive rebound, grabs it, takes it down, fumbles it around his legs for a while, somehow gets it up for a lay-up which then dances around the rim for a second before eventually falling in. There are five different moments in the play, where you think it could have gone wrong or he just got lucky.

(08-10-2021, 02:43 PM)VintagePejav2 Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/thesteinline/status/...60584?s=21

I thought it would be a little more than that?  I guess with S&T its only 5% raises?  That should still get them to around 12.  Better than MLE by a bit.  Maybe enough for him to get out of dodge?  He wants to come here, but he also wants to be a starter.  Don't think (hope) that would be in the cards for him, so not sure how that would play out.

If you guys haven't watched the Luka extension press conference I would highly recommend. Mr. Duffy is in the conference and speaks about Mark, Dallas, Luka, etc. A report tree asks about Dragic. Much much more in there as well.

https://youtu.be/h84magAArPs

I did, it was good.  I clapped for Dirk.

So now the Mavs have to figure out how to get the Raptors to take Burke-DP-M Brown for Dragic and then hope Terry and a 2nd is enough of a sweetener for the Bulls and Lauri will take around $11 million to get to play with Luka.

Dragic - Brunson
Luka - S Brown
THJ - Bullock - Green
DFS - Maxi
KP - Lauri - WCS - Bobi

Two roster spots to fill

(08-10-2021, 03:54 PM)MaxiThreeba Wrote: [ -> ]So now the Mavs have to figure out how to get the Raptors to take Burke-DP-M Brown for Dragic and then hope Terry and a 2nd is enough of a sweetener for the Bulls and Lauri will take around $11 million to get to play with Luka.

Dragic - Brunson
Luka - S Brown
THJ - Bullock - Green
DFS - Maxi
KP - Lauri - WCS - Bobi

Two roster spots to fill

Terry and a second is not enough salary to sign LM. Can't use the TPE with another player. That's why Omahen has been saying keeping JRich would have been better than getting a TPE.