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(08-06-2021, 06:05 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]He is not. NY liked him well enough.

Think he would have come here though?

I still like the idea that everyone else hates because I'm a contrarian.

(08-06-2021, 06:05 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Here's another:

Now you trolling me.  XD

(08-06-2021, 06:05 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]He is not. NY liked him well enough.

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Here's another:

Rubio is whom I thought you were talking about at first.

(08-06-2021, 06:06 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Think he would have come here though?

I still like the idea that everyone else hates because I'm a contrarian.

Maybe not - he's an East Coast guy. 

But, the PG crop was by far the best thing about this class, and while I'm not set on the added ball-handling/playmaking being from that position, it's probably the most abundant source of those skills. Further, it's certainly a fact that you don't want Luka guarding other teams' PG's, so it's a pretty easy thing to plug into what's established here. 

The Mavs couldn't get any of them? I personally find that disappointing.

Again, I LIKE what they DID do. A lot, actually, but there were so many links between Dallas and Dragic thrown out by so many people, I honestly thought it was basically a done deal.

(08-06-2021, 06:05 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]He is not. NY liked him well enough.

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(08-06-2021, 06:06 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Now you trolling me.

Not at all. Rubio would've been a boost for this team on both sides of the floor. Great, great fit. 

You've been saying "Cleveland just traded for him" and I get that. But, the Mavs went for Lowry and then pivoted (full credit for that) and we all pretty much thought they had pivoted to Dragic. Some liked it more than others, sure, but it seemed logical and loads of media types were acting like it was a foregone conclusion. If it wasn't, my opinion is that Rubio would've been a great target, especially since we know he was on the block.

(08-06-2021, 06:02 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I have one.

Would you trade JB to get RR?

(08-06-2021, 06:14 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Would you trade JB to get RR?

Sure, if we get off of Powell's contract in the process and sign Millsap to fill out our lineup.

(08-06-2021, 06:14 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Would you trade JB to get RR?

I'd have to do a little thinking on that, relative to Rubio's age, contractual status, etc. I would definitely try NOT to, but I do think he'd help the team in areas of weakness immediately. I'd probably consider it. I'm not sure sending Brunson out really helps overall, however. Different kinds of creators, and I'm trying to ADD options. 

I'm honestly unsure what Rubio went for, even, so that's a little irresponsible of me, but I can tell you I'd have had no problem including Terry (who I like as much as you do, maybe more) in a deal for Rubio, if there had been a way to do that.

(08-06-2021, 05:58 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]But goodness gracious, I again ask: If a deal to acquire Dragic wasn't in place, how did we arrive at a place where the best plan is hoping to get him somehow? I legitimately thought they had a 3-way trade worked out about 10 minutes after Lowry agreed to sign with the Heat. If not, I don't understand why they didn't go after someone else.

Do we know that they didn't?


Maybe it doesn't matter. Whether they didn't go after anyone else, or did but couldn't get them, we're still without another playmaker. I thought Nico and Kidd were supposed to have free agents lined up around the block to play here. 

Yogi Ferrell? Roddy B? I just don't know...

IMHO, a playmaker is a need for the Mavs. But that need isn't exactly immediate. They can open the season without and hope Jalen and maybe Terry, are good enough to hold the fort until help is available. But there is no question, the Mavs would NEED a playmaker in the play-offs, having one sooner than later is preferred for familiarity with the team, but IMHo, the Mavs can wait on Dragic (or any other playmaker) until the TDL.

Now Lauri is different. A young talent like that, who definitely wants out of his current team and has expressed early on, his willingness to join the Mavs shouldn't be a wasted opportunity. He has fit issues, but he is a floor spacing PF and is very good at it. If anything, the Mavs have an asset for trade or a KP replacement should the Mavs decide to move on from KP.

(08-06-2021, 06:21 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ]Yogi Ferrell? Roddy B? I just don't know...

Yeah, I bet we could dream up options like that and even better ones, and there might even be someone intriguing if we think hard enough. 

But, the Lowry interest told me they were into the idea of a playoff tested leader. Someone whose name rings out in NBA lorckerrooms who would demand respect for himself from this roster and for this team from the rest of the league. Someone who could get more out of the team Dallas has than they have achieved the last two years. A WINNER. 

A year ago I'd have thought it was too soon for that, and while I still agree that they're not true contenders, the Clippers series has me believing that they should be thinking about snagging that 4th seed, getting out of the 1st round, etc, only I don't think it's going to happen without some vets. Bullock is a good vet, but Lowry, CP3 (not an option, I know), Dragic, maybe Conley...guys like that would've made the team better just by teaching the younger guys how to be about the business of winning. I so thought the Mavs had Dragic in their pocket, and now that this appears to have been only smoke I'm looking around and see none of that type left. 

Again, it's not over. If there's someone who fits the bill available in trade who we haven't heard about or if Dragic gets bought out and they get him on the cheap, or whatever...GOOD off-season, imho. But, without that type of addition, I'll still like the moves they made, but I won't feel like the needle has moved much.

I think people may be forgetting that Dragic is a time bomb that has to be dealt with before seasons end in order for TOR to reap some kind of return from Lowry. TOR can hold on to attempt maximize its return, but why would any potential suitor besides DAL give up anything of value for a player they may very well end up paying off? Unless they attached a player along with a Dragic trade, why would anyone do that? Are they just wasting time or is there some sort of 4-D chess being played because at this point, theres nothing to gain from TOR's perspective. They lost the trade MIA from the start and no amount of posturing is going to soften the blow.

Raptors are overplaying their hand.

The Raps can keep Dragic.
Mavs should focus on how to get Lauri.

Mavs have the trade exception and/or a decent amount of cap space remaining. So Nico knows his options aren’t limited to Dragic.