(08-03-2021, 11:17 PM)Mavs03 Wrote: [ -> ]The fact that the Mavs couldn't get Richaun Holmes befuddles me. Did the Mavs even pursue him? By all accounts, the largest contract that Sacramento could have signed Holmes was 4 years 46.5 million not the reported 4 years 55 million (which by the way is nothing in this market...all things considered). I would have loved to pair Holmes with KP. He tweeted that he loved Sacramento and did a hashtag "4 more years" and promptly deleted it. He's an unrestricted free agent. Is there any way Dallas could get him while still acquiring Dragic? This offseason which is currently a "B" in my opinion would be an "A+" if we could get Holmes to agree to sign with Dallas.
We need a PF. I think Dallas had some interest in Bobby Portis. I personally think Holmes is better and would fit like a glove in Big D.
I really wanted him too, but I wonder if the Mavs FO is intentionally opting for a 5 out approach to team building. You could make the argument that Holmes is enough of an upgrade over Powell, WCS, and Boban that it would be worth it even if he can't shoot the 3. But considering we just signed two 40% 3 point shooters and haven't shown really any real interest in bigs like Holmes or Collins, I wonder if they're just going with the idea that they want 4 shooters around Luka for as much of the game as possible for maximum spacing.
(08-03-2021, 11:30 PM)sterlingmallory Wrote: [ -> ]haven't shown really any real interest in bigs like Holmes or Collins
I agree that little interest was
shown, but I think quite a bit of interest was there. I initially thought they weren't into Holmes (I wouldn't have been, with KP) but I've seen enough smoke to think they had scenarios with him involved, and either got a "no" or couldn't get him or SAC involved in a way that made sense to them.
I think Collins straight up told them to shove off.
I was also thinking along the lines of trading Powell in relation to Lamb but was trying to connect it with Marcus Smart. I think the Mavs need more perimeter defense and some playmaking. How do you guys feel about somehow acquiring Smart and how would that be even possible if ever?
Also, I was thinking whether or not trading for Lamb using the exception is a good idea and a feasible scenario for both teams
Smart would drive Luka insane. He does some good things on defense but he's a REALLY dumb offensive player who thinks he's better than he is.
(08-03-2021, 11:17 PM)Mavs03 Wrote: [ -> ]The fact that the Mavs couldn't get Richaun Holmes befuddles me.
The only thing I can think of is that look at the investment in KP and Powell (~$42m) and Holmes supposed wants at the beginning of free agency (~$20m) and decided a "money ball" approach was the better route to go for the center position.
Conceptually, I love that approach. I think there are very few centers worth north of $10m with the way the NBA is played today. Execution is another story. Hopefully there is something "there" with Brown. Boban, Powell, and more often than not, WCS don't bring a lot to the table.
(08-03-2021, 11:17 PM)Mavs03 Wrote: [ -> ]The fact that the Mavs couldn't get Richaun Holmes befuddles me. Did the Mavs even pursue him? By all accounts, the largest contract that Sacramento could have signed Holmes was 4 years 46.5 million not the reported 4 years 55 million (which by the way is nothing in this market...all things considered). I would have loved to pair Holmes with KP. He tweeted that he loved Sacramento and did a hashtag "4 more years" and promptly deleted it. He's an unrestricted free agent. Is there any way Dallas could get him while still acquiring Dragic? This offseason which is currently a "B" in my opinion would be an "A+" if we could get Holmes to agree to sign with Dallas.
We need a PF. I think Dallas had some interest in Bobby Portis. I personally think Holmes is better and would fit like a glove in Big D.
The problem that exists with an S&T is that Holmes wants more than the average salary which is pretty much where the Mavs TE sits.
Sacramento is in a very untenable position due to not having cap space or an exception other than the Early Bird Rights (again avg salary)
Anything over 6 million will trigger BYC on Holmes... so it isn't easy being pleasey in this scenario
I am okay with the trading any one or any combination of Josh Green, Tyrell Terry, and Brunson to the Raptors as sweetener for a Goran Dragic trade.
Goran is kinda old but he performs during important games and will supply what the Mavs need in scoring and playmaking alongside Luka and when Luka is resting. Plus, having him will make Luka very happy.
For the sake of the young Mavs, going to the Raptors will also do wonders for their careers as the Raptors are very good in developing young players.
(08-04-2021, 08:01 AM)RedFlag41 Wrote: [ -> ]I am okay with the trading any one or any combination of Josh Green, Tyrell Terry, and Brunson to the Raptors as sweetener for a Goran Dragic trade.
Goran is kinda old but he performs during important games and will supply what the Mavs need in scoring and playmaking alongside Luka and when Luka is resting. Plus, having him will make Luka very happy.
For the sake of the young Mavs, going to the Raptors will also do wonders for their careers as the Raptors are very good in developing young players.
Ouch. Toronto then flips Jalen to NY for our #1 plus. Huge overpay for 800-year-old Drogo. The Brunson Burner is here to stay, I tell ya. To stay!
(08-04-2021, 08:01 AM)RedFlag41 Wrote: [ -> ]I am okay with the trading any one or any combination of Josh Green, Tyrell Terry, and Brunson to the Raptors as sweetener for a Goran Dragic trade.
I personally cannot go there, especially if the new leadership think JG and TT have "it." TOR doesn't want Dragic, with enough patience he should be available. And even if the Mavs miss on Dragic (which I don't want!), they will be ok and have other avenues to explore.
Green has shown enough flashes to make me hopeful he will be our next Crowder (except we develop and keep him). Brunson is more valuable to the Mavs than a "trade filler" for one year of Dragic. Terry to me is the odd man out, if I had to choose between the three. Nothing against him - he's just never struck me as an NBA level player (hope I'm wrong - if we keep him).
Lauri Markannen may want more, but his market price (Olynyk) looks to be around 3-years, $37 million. Mavs can offer that using the TPE. Trouble is he wants to start and I don't see that happening with KP on the roster.
(08-04-2021, 09:01 AM)vfromlmf Wrote: [ -> ]Lauri Markannen may want more, but his market price (Olynyk) looks to be around 3-years, $37 million. Mavs can offer that using the TPE.
Lauri is the more fluid in his motions but they are pretty much the same player. Lauri may improve somewhat, still hope he can take another level where he is now, though. He really needs to learn a true post up game and utilize his size to his advantage. Getting stronger without losing his fluidity would also immensely help him.
And it would be nice if he could learn to be a decent defender through smarts (because he doesn't have the quickness to be a good defender in space.... utilize his hands and be a decent thief a la Dirk.... or utilize timing a la Brook Lopez and be a decent shotblocker around the rim.
(Literally everything I wrote applies to KP as well but I'm not sure he has that "drive" to do those things. KP is too prima donna to improve IMO. Lauri may not be a lost cause.)
The more I think about that take the less sense it makes. Dragic doesn't want to play in Toronto, which is actually a pretty nice city, there's no way he's going to play in fucking Oklahoma City. If that's their "leverage play" it's completely nonsensical. Keep in mind what just triggered this is OKC buying out an expensive veteran PG who didn't want to be there. If they sent Dragic to OKC the Mavs would just say "okay" and wait for him to get bought out too.
QUESTION: So, deadlines make deals.
What deadlines are either Toronto or Dallas facing in this situation? It appears that it's just the soft deadline of wanting to have their teams in place for training camp. Or is it that if they drag this out each team will miss out on other possible deals?
Cheering for Nico to stand his ground. #Nicotiation
Cheering for Duffy to come up with a magical solution that all three teams can say yes to.
the only thing I can think of is maybe they are trying to get something done by Friday before the Lowry deal is completed so they can piggyback that but I have been reading Dragic might just be a separate transaction.