(04-06-2021, 09:34 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ]As Kamm has said, RPM is about literally the very basics of winning or losing basketball - the Mavs scored more points with Willie on the floor, and he made a major impact defensively.
If WCS shouldn't be in the league, then Melli certainly shouldn't be either.
Not sure why use this stat. According to this, Graham (CHA) and Robinson (MIA) are great defenders, when they clearly aren't. WCS is fine defensively, he has great moments when engaged and moments he looks uninterested and lost. His motor and work-ethic were always a big question on his teams. He had good stats as well last year on the worst team in the league.
I watched the Grizzles last night beat Miami and this isn't a ground breaking comment, but boy did they hit on their last two drafts. Obviously Morant is a potential franchise player and Brandon Clarke is really good.
This year without a first round pick to wind up with Bane, Tillman, and UDFA Tillie is a home run. Bane would have been perfect in Dallas. I really wonder if he was Dallas' pick if Memphis didn't jump in front of Dallas. Bane is just such a smart, solid player. Hits open shots at a high percentage, knows when to cut, and is smart on defense. He does not have a lot of wiggle on ball creation, but has a quick first step and uses it to get to the rim, shoot a floater or pull up. Just a really good player.
Tillman has also been really good for them.
When you are a small market team, you need to draft well and they certainly have.
As far as Miami goes, nothing really stuck out for me with Oladipo. He has had a quiet 3 games since joining the heat. His progress will be interesting to watch. Someone mentioned in another post about starting Jalen next year. It is an interesting thought. If so, I wonder what the market for Dragic will be. Could he be had for the MLE. It may not be the best pairing, but you could certainly have two really good ball creators on the court at all times.
(04-07-2021, 08:45 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]I watched the Grizzles last night beat Miami and this isn't a ground breaking comment, but boy did they hit on their last two drafts. Obviously Morant is a potential franchise player and Brandon Clarke is really good.
This year without a first round pick to wind up with Bane, Tillman, and UDFA Tillie is a home run. Bane would have been perfect in Dallas. I really wonder if he was Dallas' pick if Memphis didn't jump in front of Dallas. Bane is just such a smart, solid player. Hits open shots at a high percentage, knows when to cut, and is smart on defense. He does not have a lot of wiggle on ball creation, but has a quick first step and uses it to get to the rim, shoot a floater or pull up. Just a really good player.
Tillman has also been really good for them.
When you are a small market team, you need to draft well and they certainly have.
As far as Miami goes, nothing really stuck out for me with Oladipo. He has had a quiet 3 games since joining the heat. His progress will be interesting to watch. Someone mentioned in another post about starting Jalen next year. It is an interesting thought. If so, I wonder what the market for Dragic will be. Could he be had for the MLE. It may not be the best pairing, but you could certainly have two really good ball creators on the court at all times.
I like the idea of Dragic on the MLE, depending on what else we address . Even putting aside the Slovenia connection, he's just a really good basketball player and person to have in your lockerroom and fills a needed skillset as a 2nd shot creator and ball handler.
Memphis is getting to the point where they might need to trade off some of their rotational players for some higher end talent. It's like they've got 11 guys who could be 8 man rotation players.
(04-07-2021, 08:45 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Someone mentioned in another post about starting Jalen next year. It is an interesting thought. If so, I wonder what the market for Dragic will be. Could he be had for the MLE. It may not be the best pairing, but you could certainly have two really good ball creators on the court at all times.
One of the interesting things about what to do with Jalen has to do with the level of player you bring in since Jalen starting probably means you are replacing Richardson. I look at many of the FA PG's and say, heck, I'd rather start Jalen. But, if you start Jalen, you need a fairly high quality 3rd guard. Who is good enough to fit the bill, but not so good that he wouldn't demand a starting role. Dragic fits. He isn't a long term solution, but if you believe in Terry, he gives you a conduit until Terry is more ready.
I think Dinwiddie could be a really good scoring guard off the bench also. The D isn't great and he doesn't shoot the three very well. But, he scores efficiently and can play on or off the ball. I think Dragic is the better fit because you can play him with Green as Green takes on a bigger and bigger role over time. Green with Dinwiddie would challenge our efforts to play 5-Out.
(04-07-2021, 09:42 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]One of the interesting things about what to do with Jalen has to do with the level of player you bring in since Jalen starting probably means you are replacing Richardson. I look at many of the FA PG's and say, heck, I'd rather start Jalen. But, if you start Jalen, you need a fairly high quality 3rd guard. Who is good enough to fit the bill, but not so good that he wouldn't demand a starting role. Dragic fits. He isn't a long term solution, but if you believe in Terry, he gives you a conduit until Terry is more ready.
I think Dinwiddie could be a really good scoring guard off the bench also. The D isn't great and he doesn't shoot the three very well. But, he scores efficiently and can play on or off the ball. I think Dragic is the better fit because you can play him with Green as Green takes on a bigger and bigger role over time. Green with Dinwiddie would challenge our efforts to play 5-Out.
I haven't followed much on Dinwiddie's injury, but I think he is a target the Mavs could realistically get. Do I want him...not sure. I am pretty sure he is not going to resign in New Jersey, but could the Nets get anything back in a sign and trade. We don't have an exception right? Maybe a one year deal sign and trade with Redick? Just on quick thought, I would think Dinwiddie's salary demands will be higher than Redick's.
Dragic is a little more tricky. If Miami wants him back, you think they figure something out. Although if the decide to resign Oladipo or target Lowry, then Dragic could be available. It is very difficult competing against Miami though on a player they want to acquire or keep.
(04-07-2021, 09:50 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]I haven't followed much on Dinwiddie's injury, but I think he is a target the Mavs could realistically get. Do I want him...not sure. I am pretty sure he is not going to resign in New Jersey, but could the Nets get anything back in a sign and trade. We don't have an exception right? Maybe a one year deal sign and trade with Redick? Just on quick thought, I would think Dinwiddie's salary demands will be higher than Redick's.
The S&T for Redick has been my presumption. I think he has similar value to Clarkson, so there is probably above MLE money out there for him (but it might not be from a good team). My presumption is we'd offer $5mm more than whatever Brooklyn would pay Redick on a one year deal.
It really seems as if the Lakers are going to hit one of those rough patches the next 8 games. They could really fall before the two vs Dallas. Should be really interesting.
If Jalen is such a strong PG contributor, why not pay him starter money but keep him as the 6th man? If he can lead a bench squad, or bench+starters, to a positive +/-, then isn't that as important as a starting PG when you have Luka who is going to fill that role 95% of the time he's in the game? He'll probably have better stats and recognition as the 6th man anyway and likely an important crunch time contributor.
Just seems like a smoother solution, continuity-wise.
(04-07-2021, 10:46 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]The S&T for Redick has been my presumption. I think he has similar value to Clarkson, so there is probably above MLE money out there for him (but it might not be from a good team). My presumption is we'd offer $5mm more than whatever Brooklyn would pay Redick on a one year deal.
You already mentioned this one. I doubt he still has such value at his advanced age and declined production. Performance with Mavs will be crucial for him. Assuming East coast is where he wants to be, this is what - New York, Brooklyn, Philly, Boston and Washington? New York has as much cap space as they want, so no SnT there. Boston is in the tax already, assuming they want to resign Fournier. Washington would be an interesting target as they should kill for a shooter. Philly and Brooklyn could both use a shooter.
Problem is - what do you want from them. Washington literally has zero stuff it would interest me, assuming their recent picks and core players are off the table. Philly is basically the same - they don't really gain anything if they trade Hill or Curry. Is Redick better than Green? I doubt Thybule or Maxey would be on the table. That leaves Brooklyn. I guess you were aiming for Dinwiddie, but are we sure there won't be someone, who will offer him 20 mil to be their lead point guard? I would actually target Shamet and Claxton, but I guess it would take Jordan contract to make the salaries work. Something I don't want to touch.
(04-07-2021, 11:04 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]You already mentioned this one. I doubt he still has such value at his advanced age and declined production. Performance with Mavs will be crucial for him. Assuming East coast is where he wants to be, this is what - New York, Brooklyn, Philly, Boston and Washington? New York has as much cap space as they want, so no SnT there. Boston is in the tax already, assuming they want to resign Fournier. Washington would be an interesting target as they should kill for a shooter. Philly and Brooklyn could both use a shooter.
Problem is - what do you want from them.
I haven't really expanded my thinking beyond Brooklyn (until now) mainly because of Brooklyn being Redick's preferred destination. But, between your question and my recollection that Dallas was "the loudest voice" pursuing Fournier, I wonder if there is something to do there. You pointed out the cap situation in Boston. They probably aren't giving Fournier four years at $15-$18mm. Might they be interested in a Redick one year rental while they wait for Nesmith to grow up?
(04-07-2021, 02:18 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]I haven't really expanded my thinking beyond Brooklyn (until now) mainly because of Brooklyn being Redick's preferred destination.
I would gladly do Redick for Shamet and Claxton. SnT any of other Brooklyn expirings if needed - all would be happy with more than vet min salary. Include a second rounder if needed. That would really round up our rotation nicely. But Redick would have to have one hell of an end of season
The good thing about Redick is that he’s not above taking 1-year deals and his agent seems good at negotiating them at a substantial markup. They have done it before.
All in all, I think a sign and trade where Redick ends up on the East Coast and something semi-valuable ends up back here is one of the more likely scenarios I’ve read here.
(04-09-2021, 05:30 PM)TXBamanut Wrote: [ -> ]Bet they left early to go out to "dinner"...where the wings are free, the music is loud, and the "waitresses" are....welll...
I wonder if they got to sit at the MVP table with Harden or did they sit in the back with the rest of the role players...
Lavine 39 points at HT against Hawks. Bulls start winning now.
(04-09-2021, 08:07 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]Lavine 39 points at HT against Hawks. Bulls start winning now.
They should...22-28 in the leastern confernce. Mavs are 29-22. Would be the 4th seed in the east.