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(01-25-2021, 11:53 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]2) Tyrell just turned 20 (along with Green) and Bane is more than 2 years older than him. SO MUCH maturation and growth happens from ages 18-22 that it is generally a horrible idea to compare guys who have a couple year difference in that range. Bane has gotten off to an incredible hot start, but I would still evaluate Tyrell above him personally. I might be dead wrong, but I am not willing to jump to conclusions based on what I have seen so far, especially since we all knew Bane would come in a basically finished product and Tyrell would come in incredibly raw and immature. 

3) Every team situation and philosophy is so different in regard to development of youth and rookies. It is so hard to make any helpful comparisons. Some guys will thrive on some teams while those same guys might totally fail in other team situations. Just too many variables to even mention.

Totally agree with everything you said here. Like I said, my impressions right now of Terry aren't written in stone. They're more so just a commentary of what I've seen so far and I'm just projecting out based on how he's looked to other players at this stage that looked like him. 

(01-25-2021, 12:02 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I do think he has looked hesitant to shoot at times, but I personally haven't seen that as "fear." Frankly I wish Luka would be as hesitant to shoot from three as Tyrell has been...... Just saying.

I mean to be fair, fear is subjective. That's just my POV on how he's looked on the court. Terry could easily be unafraid and is just doing what he thinks is the right basketball play, even if he looks hesitant. I mean for all I know his herky jerky motions that come off as hesitant might actually just be how he looks. Its too early to say. And you're right the Mavs coaching staff might be having him play a specific way, but that's a whole other conversation.

(01-25-2021, 11:57 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]from the limited information I have, I would say his problem is that he is not really a PG but SG. This was even said in the scouting reports. Yet the Mavs are strictly playing him as PG. Perhaps because he is too small to survive as a SG. However, if you already have a big PG, you can perhaps survive with a small SG... Anycase, transition from SG to PG is very difficult, especially combined with the difficult transition from college to NBA basketball.

And this is a good point. Playing point is a very hard job under RC and something I've missed in my initial evaluations. Terry might probably be falling victim to the subjugations of a young PG in an intense system filled with reads and reacts. 

That does bring up another question as to why the Mavs are forcing him to be uncomfortable (and possibly putting him in a career jeopardizing position if he never figures it out), but the most likely answer is that they're playing the long game.

(01-25-2021, 01:44 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]just a commentary of what I've seen so far

Totally respect this as your current observation. You might be spot on about him and I might be dead wrong. I really appreciate you acknowledging the subjective nature of all this, really important for having good and nuanced conversation. I am happy to have anyone disagree with me and see things differently when they have the humility to see that their perspective is only that...a perspective. Good stuff.

(01-25-2021, 02:06 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Totally respect this as your current observation. You might be spot on about him and I might be dead wrong. I really appreciate you acknowledging the subjective nature of all this, really important for having good and nuanced conversation. I am happy to have anyone disagree with me and see things differently when they have the humility to see that their perspective is only that...a perspective. Good stuff.

I call being Barney (also you too my man)

(01-25-2021, 12:53 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]This is what I'm thinking about him. His arms are kinda freakishly short. Watching him try to lay it up in traffic I think to myself "Is he (Shawn Marion) short arming that?" Same with the jump shot. He's not as open as people think he is. This is gonna be a tough hurdle to overcome, not insurmountable, but it'll take some time, possibly time we won't want to invest in.

He did pass up on a wide open shot this past game.  His measurables aren't the main issue right now.  He plays with zero confidence.

Here is the truth: Tyrell Terry sucks. 

He is not an NBA player, way too scrawny and weak; JJ Barea could post him up all day and Puerto Rican Dream Shake his way to 30 points. And here is the worst part about Tyrell, he is a PG with little to no skill at the NBA level. He looks like DSJ without the athleticism. 

I was not a fan of the pick but was open to it until they signed Burke; now the pick makes even worse sense. Personally, I was hoping for Tillman at #31 but I know bigs were out of the question with Powell and his contract still on the books. But whatever not every draft choice will be a hit.

Good news is Green has legit promise; I know other rookies are outplaying him but at least there is still hope Green catches up or even surpasses some. Bey is a mystery but at least there are tools there; I rather see him get some of those Johnson minutes and see what he can do.

(01-25-2021, 04:03 PM)Fuerza1 Wrote: [ -> ]Here is the truth: Tyrell Terry sucks. 

Thanks. Next time, pop in a little sooner and save us the trouble of having a discussion wherein everyone’s thoughts are considered. 

I mean, we all just want to get to the truth.

(01-25-2021, 04:10 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks. Next time, pop in a little sooner and save us the trouble of having a discussion wherein everyone’s thoughts are considered.

Tyrell Terry looks like Trae Young without the vision, handles, quickness and the shot. He holds his position better though. Can't believe this is a Donnie pick.

When Bill Simmons was saying he couldn't believe Terry falling to the second round, on another podcast Jonathan Givony was telling that there were still a couple of point guards on the board that he ranked higher than Terry. He also added that Terry hype was limited within internet blogosphere and he was never popular in front office circles. So he didn't actually fall. Wasn't ever considered a first round talent.

After a handful of displays, you can see why. I will be very surprised if Terry can turn into something. There is raw, then there is this.

(01-25-2021, 04:39 PM)pompelmo Wrote: [ -> ]I will be very surprised if Terry can turn into something. There is raw, then there is this.

Thanks. Next time, pop in a little sooner and save us the trouble of having a discussion wherein everyone’s thoughts are considered. 

I mean, we all just want to get to the raw truth.

(01-25-2021, 04:03 PM)Fuerza1 Wrote: [ -> ]Here is the truth: Tyrell Terry sucks. 

(01-25-2021, 04:43 PM)Fuerza1 Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks. Next time, pop in a little sooner and save us the trouble of having a discussion wherein everyone’s thoughts are considered. 

I mean, we all just want to get to the raw truth.

Would've been funny if you had copied it correctly.

pretty sure Tyrell Terry is the only NBA player I could beat up

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(01-25-2021, 05:22 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]Nets look to be acquiring JAVALE MCGEEEEE

Damn, that roster is just getting more and more crazy (literally).

I just read it on reddit so it's probably not true lol.

(01-25-2021, 04:39 PM)pompelmo Wrote: [ -> ]Tyrell Terry looks like Trae Young without the vision, handles, quickness and the shot. He holds his position better though. Can't believe this is a Donnie Pick.

When Bill Simmons was saying he couldn't believe Terry falling to the second round, on another podcast Jonathan Givony was telling that there were still a couple of point guards on the board that he ranked higher than Terry. He also added that Terry hype was limited within internet blogosphere and he was never popular in front office circles. So he didn't actually fell. Wasn't ever considered a first round talent.

After a handful of displays, you can see why. I will be very surprised if Terry can turn into something. There is raw, then there is this.

So, Terry's new first name is - TyRaw.   "there is raw, then there is TyRaw".

Add in Tiger Bay and all we need now is a nick name for Green and Hinton.

(01-25-2021, 05:22 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]pretty sure Tyrell Terry is the only NBA player I could beat up

But Giannis could not block him. He could literally not believe that Tyrell Terry scored and he didnt block him. I dont know if you remember that play. It was pure instinct and bbIQ.

He is not yet NBA ready, but he has some rare skills. And my feeling is he can shoot lights out.

He has no confidence, and his body is not NBA ready. But he has a natural feel for the game, that stuff is hard to teach, while the physical part is easier to adjust to. We will see how this turns out. I really wanted Haliburton, S.Bey or Bane. I do see Terry having skills, this is for sure. It will take several years to make him NBA ready.

EDIT: I found the play. Terry swtiches the ball over to the left hand, just at the last moment and surprises Giannis. From another angle, it was evident this was not easy, requires skill definitely, and instinct that someone is behind you. In the last game he made a similar quality finish. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syAgjRCOKng

(01-25-2021, 05:35 PM)chaparral Wrote: [ -> ]all we need now is a nick name for Green and Hinton.

Green is simply that...unripe! Greenie?

(01-25-2021, 05:44 PM)burekemde Wrote: [ -> ]He has no confidence, and his body is not NBA ready. But he has a natural feel for the game, that stuff is hard to teach, while the physical part is easier to adjust to.

Completely agree. I don't think any of us are saying we're certain he's gong to make it, but this has been my observation, too.