(03-19-2021, 09:06 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]Gambling on good defender makes sense. If one of them figures out how to shoot the Mavs have another starting quality player. Liked the MKG signing for the same reason. Thing is that they missed out on guys that can already do both. Bey is a solid defender and good shooter. Bane is not a bad defender and an even better shooter.
Maybe Green´s athleticism gives him a higher ceiling but I just don´t see it. Bey looks like the next Ariza/OPJ. A legit starter on most teams (including the Mavs). A higher ceiling would mean that Green turns into a fringe allstar or at least an above average starter.
If Saddiq Bey is the next OPJ or Ariza I gladly say let him be. That´s a kind of player I don´t want to waste a pick on.
OPJ had one statistical very good season that got him a max-contract and has done nothing substancical since then.
Ariza is the most traded player for a reason. He is good in contract years and a disappointment anytime else.
I think Bey is a more useful player then them, but Green has a chance to be even better.
(03-19-2021, 11:23 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]It worries me that you might be wrong and Clippers actually pulling it off.
Well if they do, I'd be happy if Dallas could weasel their way in to get Zubac just so he won't dunk on us anymore.
A lot of buzz on the internet today that Brad Steven is going to take the Indiana University job.
(03-19-2021, 12:47 PM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: [ -> ]A lot of buzz on the internet today that Brad Steven is going to take the Indiana University job.
He would be smart to do so, imo. He's pretty high on the list of scapegoats there in Boston, where a promising beginning has led to almost nothing, a few years later.
Zach Lowe and Bobby Marks podcast on the trade dealine today... nothing earth shaking here. A few of the main points...
a) Clippers are probably going to be really aggressive because they are completely All In and they're not winning a Championship with this current roster. They can't get to the rim and they can't get to the line. They're purely a jump shot team, and it's going to be too hard against elite defenses in the playoffs. Their problem is they don't have many assets and they're up against the hard cap. Look for someone like Ricky Rubio or George Hill. They don't have the assets for Ball, unless they have a 3rd team in the trade.
b) Everyone thinks you absolutely have to trade an expiring contract you have no plans on resigning, but forget that you can always sign and trade them over the summer and get assets in return. It's not the worse thing in the world for Andre Drummond if he stays a Cav and doesn't play again this year. He'll have more avenues and could possibly make more money in a potential SnT.
c) Marks thinks we've over estimated how much cap space is going to be available around the league this summer. That might make it less likely the Pels deal Ball, because they might have pretty strong leverage to match an RFA offer. Marks thinks he gets $18-$20 in the RFA market.
d) No idea what the Magic are going to do. Gordon has been speculated as a trade piece for 5 years, but this is as likely as it's ever been that he gets traded. He has a lot of fans in the league. Still, Magic might not deal him. He's still young and if he goes off an thrives elsewhere it brings a lot of scrutiny on them.
e) Houston has made clear they don't want any returning salary for Dipo. Knicks could be a player trading the Dallas 1st round pick and an expiring.
f) Denver has to make their move soon. MPJ is going to get a max contract from them in 2022. That will be $100 million devoted to just 3 players. They have 1.5 years of cap flexibility left.
g) Lowe says 60/40 Atlanta keeps Collins, now that they've turned it around and back in the playoff hunt.
(03-19-2021, 01:41 PM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: [ -> ]Zach Lowe and Bobby Marks podcast on the trade dealine today... nothing earth shaking here. A few of the main points...
a) Clippers are probably going to be really aggressive because they are completely All In and they're not winning a Championship with this current roster. They can't get to the rim and they can't get to the line. They're purely a jump shot team, and it's going to be too hard against elite defenses in the playoffs. Their problem is they don't have many assets and they're up against the hard cap. Look for someone like Ricky Rubio or George Hill. They don't have the assets for Ball, unless they have a 3rd team in the trade.
b) Everyone thinks you absolutely have to trade an expiring contract you have no plans on resigning, but forget that you can always sign and trade them over the summer and get assets in return. It's not the worse thing in the world for Andre Drummond if he stays a Cav and doesn't play again this year. He'll have more avenues and could possibly make more money in a potential SnT.
c) Marks thinks we've over estimated how much cap space is going to be available around the league this summer. That might make it less likely the Pels deal Ball, because they might have pretty strong leverage to match an RFA offer. Marks thinks he gets $18-$20 in the RFA market.
d) No idea what the Magic are going to do. Gordon has been speculated as a trade piece for 5 years, but this is as likely as it's ever been that he gets traded. He has a lot of fans in the league. Still, Magic might not deal him. He's still young and if he goes off an thrives elsewhere it brings a lot of scrutiny on them.
e) Houston has made clear they don't want any returning salary for Dipo. Knicks could be a player trading the Dallas 1st round pick and an expiring.
f) Denver has to make their move soon. MPJ is going to get a max contract from them in 2022. That will be $100 million devoted to just 3 players. They have 1.5 years of cap flexibility left.
g) Lowe says 60/40 Atlanta keeps Collins, now that they've turned it around and back in the playoff hunt.
Regarding A/C, I just can't imagine the Clippers have the ammo for Ball and I also can't imagine the Pels having the desire to trade him. He's been great this year.
Regarding G, was 60/40 for the TDL or in general? Speaking of things that are hard to imagine, giving up on Collins just makes me scratch my head.
It's also kind of weird that we hear all these PG rumors and Brunson is never mentioned. Maybe he's still too under the radar for pundits or maybe we just overrate him.
(03-19-2021, 01:56 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]It's also kind of weird that we hear all these PG rumors and Brunson is never mentioned. Maybe he's still too under the radar for pundits or maybe we just overrate him.
Maybe the Mavs aren't shopping him.
(03-19-2021, 03:19 PM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe the Mavs aren't shopping him.
Player availability doesn't usually stop other rumor mills. :p
(03-19-2021, 05:21 PM)TXBamanut Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status...5497372674
Doesn't Jabari's expression in the picture capture every person's thoughts about this nugget?
Not at all. Parker is exactly the kind of BASKETBALL TALENT we need. A former high end pick that had added value as a bench scorer, because he can actually put the ball in the hoop by going into business for himself unlike guys like Powell or WCS that are totally dependent on others. Further arguments:He just turned 26.That is right. He is still fairly young, despite being around for ages. 15/6/2 with 1.3 SPG in 26 minutes per game for Atlanta last year. Led the league in dunks at some stage that season. Never played on a very good team. While I don't think he has the potential of Randle, he's exactly the kind of talent that eventually becomes an impact rotational bench contributor for a legit championship contender. Defensively he can be a mess, but offensively he's probably on a similar level as Aaron Gordon. UFA in the summer, so he would be ultra-cheap. Johnson for (partially guaranteed 2.4) Joseph + Parker works. Since we would take on some guaranteed money, maybe adding a low future 2nd can land you Ramsey or Woodward too. Or you dump Burke's contract.
(03-19-2021, 06:14 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]Not at all. Parker is exactly the kind of BASKETBALL TALENT we need. A former high end pick that had added value as a bench scorer, because he can actually put the ball in the hoop by going into business for himself unlike guys like Powell or WCS that are totally dependent on others. Further arguments:He just turned 26.That is right. He is still fairly young, despite being around for ages. 15/6/2 with 1.3 SPG in 26 minutes per game for Atlanta last year. Led the league in dunks at some stage that season. Never played on a very good team. While I don't think he has the potential of Randle, he's exactly the kind of talent that eventually becomes an impact rotational bench contributor for a legit championship contender. Defensively he can be a mess, but offensively he's probably on a similar level as Aaron Gordon. UFA in the summer, so he would be ultra-cheap. Johnson for (partially guaranteed 2.4) Joseph + Parker works. Since we would take on some guaranteed money, maybe adding a low future 2nd can land you Ramsey or Woodward too. Or you dump Burke's contract.
What is the story on Parker? It looks like he has only played a few minutes this year for Sacramento. Has he been hurt?
I don't want to say there is some version where he ever lives up to the top 2 pick he once was. Man, I really thought Parker was going to be very good. He has had some moments but it never came together for him.
The last Mavs game I saw in person was when we played the Wizzards during Luka's rookie year. Parker was on that team. In that game, he was just too big and strong for our defenders. Now on defense he isn't going to be much of a factor. But if that guy is still in there somewhere, I would be interested. I mean Derrick Rose was thought to be done several years ago but has had a nice second half of his career as a solid rotation player. It looks like he had a solid game or two in the bubble last year too, but nothing this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQDACplqGTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi5Ze_RqW4M
Some crazy stat lines today.
- 6´5 wing Keldon Johnson with 21 rebounds in 39 minutes. 10 offensive boards. Also added 23pts.
- Aaron Gordon increasing his trade value. 38/6/2 with one minute to go vs the Nets. 7/8 from 3. Magic up 11
- Fournier with 31pts. 6/8 from 3 in the same game.
- S.Bey with another 20pts game against the Rockets. Rockets out tanking the Pistons.
(03-19-2021, 11:25 AM)Mapka Wrote: [ -> ]If Saddiq Bey is the next OPJ or Ariza I gladly say let him be. That´s a kind of player I don´t want to waste a pick on.
OPJ had one statistical very good season that got him a max-contract and has done nothing substancical since then.
Ariza is the most traded player for a reason. He is good in contract years and a disappointment anytime else.
I think Bey is a more useful player then them, but Green has a chance to be even better.
I don't see how you figure Green has a chance to be better. He has a good propensity to guard people, not much else.
