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Boston is now quite firmly in tax and looks like they will stay there. A bit surprising, tbh
(09-03-2021, 01:42 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Memphis has now 18 players under contract (not counting exhibit type deals!) so 3 will have to go. Only Merrill is non guaranteed.


Maybe there was some truth to the Brooks trade rumors. I can see them sending him out and trying to get only picks in return.


(09-03-2021, 01:48 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Boston is now quite firmly in tax and looks like they will stay there. A bit surprising, tbh


There's probably another move incoming. Can't see why Boston would prefer to stay in the tax for this team.
(09-03-2021, 01:42 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Memphis has now 18 players under contract (not counting exhibit type deals!) so 3 will have to go. Only Merrill is non guaranteed.

The number of bodies are fairly meaningless to MEM. Their process has been to try to whittle down dead salary, and perhaps pick up something of value along the way.

They started with Bledsoe, who they could have waived at a dead salary cost of $22.025M.

Now - Oturu (1,517,981), Culver (6,395,160), Dunn (5,005,350), Edwards (1,782,621), dead money (Rondo waived 4,858,309), pick swap ....If they stop here and waive them all, the wasted money is now only $19.56M.

I wouldn't be surprised if they plan to keep Culver (recent #6 pick, but an NBA disappointment so far). 

I suspect there is more dealing (or buying out) still to come.
(09-03-2021, 02:41 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]The number of bodies are fairly meaningless to MEM. Their process has been to try to whittle down dead salary, and perhaps pick up something of value along the way.


I know. I was trying to point out it is very likely Dunn, who was topic of discussion, will be bought out
(09-03-2021, 02:30 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]There's probably another move incoming. Can't see why Boston would prefer to stay in the tax for this team.

Easiest way for them to get out of tax was to dump Dunn to someones trade exception. So unless this last deal is expanded and Hernangomez actually going somewhere else, their task has become much more difficult. Unless the plan is to trade Horford for less salary
Damn, Brooklyn has been quite active today. Smart move by both teams.  Detroit gets 4 future seconds (don't know if they're worth much but picks nevertheless) and buys out Jordan who will probably join Team Geritol (Lakers) while Brooklyn saves 47 million in salary and taxes. Aldridge re-signing with them also made him expendable. Okafor was probably getting released, and they were tired of waiting for Doumbouya to show them something.  Weaver has totally flipped that roster from the SVG regime.
Any interest in getting tipped to take one of these guys into the TPE?

https://twitter.com/johnhollinger/status...0252684291
(09-03-2021, 05:44 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]Any interest in getting tipped to take one of these guys into the TPE?


Not without additional compensation, but do Nets even have any picks left? With all the average level depth we have, it would be difficult to find minutes for this kind of average guys anyway, so I don't see a point of doing it without compensation
(09-04-2021, 02:15 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Not without additional compensation, but do Nets even have any picks left? With all the average level depth we have, it would be difficult to find minutes for this kind of average guys anyway, so I don't see a point of doing it without compensation

I actually think they´ll just keep them as warm bodies. Okafor is probably a better player than Jordan as this point. Another glorious chapter in the Mavs free agency history. Wes Matthews and DeAndre Jordan basically out of the league within two years of their Mavs contracts ending. We are the free agent cemetery. It´s the last stop before your NBA career dies.  Big Grin
(09-03-2021, 05:44 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]Any interest in getting tipped to take one of these guys into the TPE?

https://twitter.com/johnhollinger/status...0252684291

Okafor no.  I was not familiar with Sekou besides he was drafted at #15 a few years ago when some thought he was going to be drafted in the top 10.    I watched a few highlights from this year and he does not look impressive.  Only 20 years old though.   His former coach has some very concerning quotes about him not playing hard and not having any joy for the game on the court.   

I didn't see much on his hlightlights but I could only watch for a few minutes.  I would say no to him as well.   

I actually have more interest in Alize Johnson that the Nets had to cut.    He has put up really nice stats in the G-league the last year and half.    We will see if he is picked up on 15 man roster, but I am sure he would be very appealing on a two way. edit--I didn't know he was 25 years old, so I am less interested now.
(Shamelessly stolen from a poster on RealGM)


Troy Weaver was hired as the Detroit GM in June of 2020.


The Detroit Roster at the end of 2020:

PG: Bruce Brown, Derrick Rose, Brandon Knight, Jordan Bone
SG: Luke Kennard, Svi Mykhailuk, Langston Galloway, Khyri Thomas
SF: Tony Snell, Louis King Jr.,
PF: Blake Griffin, Sekou Doumbouya, John Henson
C: Christian Wood, Thon Maker


The Detroit roster today:

PG: Killian Hayes, Cory Joseph, Saben Lee
SG: Cade Cunningham, Hamidou Diallo, Frank Jackson, Rodney McGruder
SF: Saddiq Bey, Josh Jackson, Isaiah Livers, Jamorko Pickett
PF: Jerami Grant, Trey Lyles, Luka Garza
C: Isaiah Stewart, Kelly Olynyk


That's a 100% roster turnover in one year. Talk about cleaning house.
(09-04-2021, 10:47 AM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]That's a 100% roster turnover in one year. Talk about cleaning house.


Nico has changed 5 of the 17 roster spots (including two ways) so far. I still think the Mavs will see about 70+% roster turnover (12+ of the 17 guys that ended 2020-21) after next offeason is done. So I think Nico will move 7+ guys along through trade or not bringing them back next summer.
(09-04-2021, 10:47 AM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ](Shamelessly stolen from a poster on RealGM)


Troy Weaver was hired as the Detroit GM in June of 2020.


The Detroit Roster at the end of 2020:

PG: Bruce Brown, Derrick Rose, Brandon Knight, Jordan Bone
SG: Luke Kennard, Svi Mykhailuk, Langston Galloway, Khyri Thomas
SF: Tony Snell, Louis King Jr.,
PF: Blake Griffin, Sekou Doumbouya, John Henson
C: Christian Wood, Thon Maker


The Detroit roster today:

PG: Killian Hayes, Cory Joseph, Saben Lee
SG: Cade Cunningham, Hamidou Diallo, Frank Jackson, Rodney McGruder
SF: Saddiq Bey, Josh Jackson, Isaiah Livers, Jamorko Pickett
PF: Jerami Grant, Trey Lyles, Luka Garza
C: Isaiah Stewart, Kelly Olynyk


That's a 100% roster turnover in one year. Talk about cleaning house.

So..  What IS the average turnover for an NBA roster each year? Out of 15 slots - let's assume the 2-ways are a given.
(09-04-2021, 12:49 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Nico has changed 5 of the 17 roster spots (including two ways) so far. I still think the Mavs will see about 70+% roster turnover (12+ of the 17 guys that ended 2020-21) after next offeason is done. So I think Nico will move 7+ guys along through trade or not bringing them back next summer.
5 staying:
Luka- extension
THJ- re-signed
Boban- re-signed
DFS- hopefully extended now
Maxi- could be outgoing if we keep KP

7 going: 
KP- trade for max player
DP- salary matching 
WCS- salary matching 
Burke- salary matching
Brunson- asset we can’t afford
Green-asset
Terry- asset
(09-04-2021, 12:49 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Nico has changed 5 of the 17 roster spots (including two ways) so far. I still think the Mavs will see about 70+% roster turnover (12+ of the 17 guys that ended 2020-21) after next offeason is done. So I think Nico will move 7+ guys along through trade or not bringing them back next summer.


Help me with your logic here. 

You said about a billion times that "the construction of the roster was not the problem" last season. Why now are you suddenly so sure they're going to almost completely turn the thing over in only two years?
(09-04-2021, 03:24 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Help me with your logic here. 

You said about a billion times that "the construction of the roster was not the problem" last season. Why now are you suddenly so sure they're going to almost completely turn the thing over in only two years?


One is my opinion.

One is my guess of what Nico will do (and I assure you he doesn't care about my opinion).
(09-04-2021, 04:37 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]One is my opinion.

One is my guess of what Nico will do (and I assure you he doesn't care about my opinion).

Okay, so you disagree with what you're guessing he will do?