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(06-08-2022, 08:46 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: [ -> ]Robert Williams is becoming a paint beast. He's a big part of their defense. Think if he was on the Mavs?

He was the 27th pick. No way he is good.
(06-08-2022, 11:06 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]He was the 27th pick. No way he is good.


???
Saw this on Darvin Ham, wonder how well this works with LeBron. And if you can't call down LBJ, then the discipline won't work with AD and Russ either. So mark me down as "doubtful".


Competitiveness, togetherness, and accountability,” Ham told ESPN's Malika Andrews. “That’s going to be our mantra: competitiveness, togetherness, and accountability. That toughness everyone has been throwing around attached to my name, well that’s just being competitive. Being competitive you’ve got to be tough-minded, you have to be tough physically. Togetherness — it’s a team sport. We can’t have each other be out on an island

“Accountability, when we set this standard, we watch film, I have to be able to get on LeBron, get on Russ, get on AD, just like when I’m ready to get on Austin Reaves and Stanley Johnsons and the likes," Ham added. "It’s that accountability top to bottom, even as coaches, holding myself accountable... Regardless of the sport you're gonna find those three ingredients."
If the Lakers get out to a slow start next year how quick does Ham get the axe?
(06-09-2022, 10:21 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]If the Lakers get out to a slow start next year how quick does Ham get the axe?
Wonder if LBJ wants to add player/coach to his resume to boost his GOAT claims?


Is that even still possible?
It's so weird to me that I'm finding myself hating the Warriors more this series than the series against us.  They're just pretty unlikeable.
(06-08-2022, 12:40 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]Why are we talking about this?  In what universe are we capable of making a max offer to Lavine?  We would have to let Brunson walk and shed how much salary?  And then send more assets out?  Your infatuation with that guy is weird.

Because I made the point that having strategic long-term planning is important, not just the Cuban 12 months knee-jerk cycle.

All we needed to do was not re-sign THJ and dump Powell over the last 18 months. We´d have a way to a max capspace threat that is required to generate leverage in a S&T. Of course we do not have this threat anymore, otherwise I think the Bulls would take a Dinwiddie + Kleber + 1st round pick.

That was the whole point.
(06-09-2022, 12:08 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]otherwise I think the Bulls would take a Dinwiddie + Kleber + 1st round pick.

1 You assume Lavine wants to leave and does NOT strongly prefer the 212M deal that only CHI can give him. I think that's a bad assumption.
2 I know the glittery ***star!!!*** status of Lavine excites you,, but for the Mavs with Luka et al, imo "Dinwiddie + Kleber" is of more value than Lavine.
(06-09-2022, 12:08 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]Because I made the point that having strategic long-term planning is important, not just the Cuban 12 months knee-jerk cycle.

All we needed to do was not re-sign THJ and dump Powell over the last 18 months. We´d have a way to a max capspace threat that is required to generate leverage in a S&T. Of course we do not have this threat anymore, otherwise I think the Bulls would take a Dinwiddie + Kleber + 1st round pick.

That was the whole point.

Its kind of crazy to me because making long term decisions specifically to generate cap space (plan powder) is exactly what Cuban did for 10 years after the championship, and it was an abject failure.  I thought you were all about accumulating assets?
(06-09-2022, 10:44 AM)michaeltex Wrote: [ -> ]Wonder if LBJ wants to add player/coach to his resume to boost his GOAT claims?


Is that even still possible?

No.
(06-09-2022, 11:26 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: [ -> ]It's so weird to me that I'm finding myself hating the Warriors more this series than the series against us.  They're just pretty unlikeable.

So true. Their open arrogance in all areas towards everyone (we invented basketball, layered with an ongoing feeling they have been appointed to tell everyone what to think and how to live) has gotten really tiresome. A huge dose of humble pie would serve them well.
(06-09-2022, 09:25 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status...8409961472

Wonder where Will Barton and Monte Morris would fit in a stack ranking with Brunson, Bullock, DFS, Dinwiddie and THJ or even Kleber?

Wonder if the ranking would change if Barton and Morris played with Luka while Brunson and Dinwiddie played with Jokic? (Obviously, not suggesting a trade, just a thought exercise)

Wonder if the ranking would change if you consider Barton ($15.6M) + Morris ($8.5) versus Brunson ($25M) + Dinwiddie ($20M) ? That's $24M vs $45M if you're counting
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Morris is a pretty good backup PG and Barton is a pretty good bench G who can handle and defend. Both started and played pretty well in the playoffs.

Assuming Brunson can be someone's 34 MPG starting PG, does a Barton + Morris combo have more or less value on the trade market given the salaries (assuming $25 million for JB)?
(06-09-2022, 01:48 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]Its kind of crazy to me because making long term decisions specifically to generate cap space (plan powder) is exactly what Cuban did for 10 years after the championship, and it was an abject failure.  I thought you were all about accumulating assets?

Is THJ an asset?

You don´t need capspace, but you need a legit threat of it, so when the opportunity arises, you can quickly and easily generate it. That´s what Miami did with Butler.
(06-09-2022, 01:12 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]1 You assume Lavine wants to leave and does NOT strongly prefer the 212M deal that only CHI can give him. I think that's a bad assumption.
2 I know the glittery ***star!!!*** status of Lavine excites you,, but for the Mavs with Luka et al, imo "Dinwiddie + Kleber" is of more value than Lavine.

1. Lavine might prefer it, but the Bulls owner doesn´t like to pay up. The history is well-documented. That´s like saying: but what if Mark Cuban doesn´t want to trade the 26th pick.
2. Stars win championship. Duncan won five. Dirk won one. How many you think Dirk wins with Parker, Ginobili, Kawhi and Robinson? How many did KG win by himself. Goes to Boston and boom. Sure if you happy with the best player of his generation winning one championship, Luka will probably get it done here, if he´s willing to stick around 15 years for it.
(06-10-2022, 01:36 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]Is THJ an asset?

You don´t need capspace, but you need a legit threat of it, so when the opportunity arises, you can quickly and easily generate it. That´s what Miami did with Butler.

There wasn't enough capspace in the league to generate a Butler-Max in Miami (clearly didn't check).
Philly didn't plan on keeping Butler, because he clashed with their Superstar in the making Ben Simmons.