Cam Thomas looking good.
Teams in the middle of the draft who passed on him, including the Knicks who passed on him twice, will regret it.
At least they regret bypassing him. Mavs OTOH will throw in picks or not ask for picks like they don’t matter. I am not saying picks would guarantee us to get a star. However it is one of the 3 ways that you might be able to hit on a significant talent. It’s not as if trades or FA are fool proof guaranteed options either.
(02-17-2022, 09:36 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]That fill in the blank for me to feel like this is a Championship team would need to be someone like Collins. We just wouldn’t have the assets left to get him, unless we can get our 23 back. Gobert would be better than Capela for Collins. Also, we would want a switchable small ball backup C.
I think smallball is a great change of pace lineup that shouldn’t be used as your primary play. Using it as your main lineup only quickens the opposite team figuring out how to expose it in the playoffs. I think we’re gonna find that out in the upcoming playoffs.
Team defense can be accomplished with a slow footed C. Just have to have the coach figure it out snd the team buy in.
I think Gobert would have the same negative impact on Collins that Capela does (all three operates best in the paint). Don't think it makes sense to have Gobert and Collins. We are back to over 70 mil invested in bigs in that case.
But I think either one makes us a contender if we are not sending too much out. A Gobert for Powell/Maxi + THJ + our 22 first makes us a contender in my mind. His on court impact is insane, and I think Kidd could make it work with this team.
On the other hand, if we are sticking with our current strategy of smaller mobile bigs, I could really see Collins as our starting center on this team as opposed to a 4. I think that is where he is most valuable if you can make it work defensively, and I been continually amazed what Kidd has been able to do defensively.
(02-17-2022, 10:53 AM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]Collins as our starting center
That's what I was personally hoping for at this deadline. Moving KP and getting JC to functionally be the center.
P.S. I will NOT let my JC dream die easily. I will be rooting for it this summer.
(02-17-2022, 11:08 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.sny.tv/articles/confidence-t...are-garden
The natives are getting restless...
"Confidence in Tom Thibodeau has diminished among some people of influence at Madison Square Garden
Even before Wednesday's brutal loss, confidence in Thibodeau had decreased"
Sheesh. 2nd year Thibs happened soon huh?
(02-17-2022, 11:12 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]"Confidence in Tom Thibodeau has diminished among some people of influence at Madison Square Garden
Even before Wednesday's brutal loss, confidence in Thibodeau had decreased"
Sheesh. 2nd year Thibs happened soon huh?
Yeah, they are a mess right now. I think they are much more than just clearing some space so they can sign Jalen Brunson to fix their mess. They really need to take a step back and evaluate. Last year they had a lot of excitement and you could envision them becoming a FA destination again. Now?
They may need to make some tough decisions this year. Do they go all in if Dame hits the market? Do they move some of their high priced veterans just to get off the contracts? Do they step back and focus on development of the youngsters while waiting for the next big free agent to make it to FA? Is Coach Thibs really the guy to be there for the next 5 years? I think those need to be the questions rather than seeing if you can free up 18 million or so for Jalen.
Man, I have been really impressed with Anfernee Simmons on my brief watches of Portland. He has one of the purest jumpers I have seen. Nurkic has been playing better too. They are going to have an interesting decision. Do they keep Lillard? If not, what teams can offer the most now? If they get lucky in the lottery with both their and New Orleans protected pick, they may an interesting team sooner than later.
(02-17-2022, 11:30 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, they are a mess right now. I think they are much more than just clearing some space so they can sign Jalen Brunson to fix their mess. They really need to take a step back and evaluate. Last year they had a lot of excitement and you could envision them becoming a FA destination again. Now?
They may need to make some tough decisions this year. Do they go all in if Dame hits the market? Do they move some of their high priced veterans just to get off the contracts? Do they step back and focus on development of the youngsters while waiting for the next big free agent to make it to FA? Is Coach Thibs really the guy to be there for the next 5 years? I think those need to be the questions rather than seeing if you can free up 18 million or so for Jalen.
Mitchell Robinson sold the last play of the game. Effort was laughable. No need for that guy here. He along with a bunch of others gave up. I expect the locker room is in shambles.
(02-17-2022, 11:08 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.sny.tv/articles/confidence-t...are-garden
The natives are getting restless...
Julius Randle been balling better since the TDL has passed. I´d so buy low on the guy. It´s so stupid how much some front offices care about optics and public perceptions. Those are always the best deals to be made. Look at Justise Winslow at age 25. He makes 4M a year. The next time Ntilikina has a five game stretch,where he averages 12/8/4/2/1.5 while shooting 50% from the field, will be his first. Oh he can´t shoot. His career is dead. End him now.
Jesus half this board swore up and down last summer that DeRozan was just another THJ, because the advanced stats marks had him down for being a losing player, when he´s been the best player on winning teams for like 80% of his career, which clearly shows great leadership skills. Have you ever heard a bad word about DeRozan in 10 years? Every year he´s shown improvements to his game. When he started out, his passing and vision was on the level of THJ, now he´s consistently at 5 APG from the SG spot.
They have lost 3 of their last 6 or 7 games squandering a 20 point lead. That is some historic stuff. Thiebs is in trouble.
(02-17-2022, 09:57 AM)hakeemfaan Wrote: [ -> ]Cam Thomas looking good.
Teams in the middle of the draft who passed on him, including the Knicks who passed on him twice, will regret it.
At least they regret bypassing him. Mavs OTOH will throw in picks or not ask for picks like they don’t matter. I am not saying picks would guarantee us to get a star. However it is one of the 3 ways that you might be able to hit on a significant talent. It’s not as if trades or FA are fool proof guaranteed options either.
That turned out to be a great pick. One thing is for sure, he let's it fly..
(02-17-2022, 11:44 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus half this board swore up and down last summer that DeRozan was just another THJ, because the advanced stats marks had him down for being a losing player, when he´s been the best player on winning teams for like 80% of his career, which clearly shows great leadership skills. Have you ever heard a bad word about DeRozan in 10 years? Every year he´s shown improvements to his game. When he started out, his passing and vision was on the level of THJ, now he´s consistently at 5 APG from the SG spot.
The knock on DeRozan his entire career is that when his teams (and him) get matched up against good teams in the playoffs, he gets nullified. Teams dare him to shoot a 3 and pack the paint. There's a reason why TOR consistently got swept with him as the main guy. I was one of the few that wanted DeRozan too, but of course was wary how he'd affect spacing since JRich traumatized us all.
I will admit, the DeRozan we're seeing today is not the same DeRozan we've seen the last 10 years. He's added a whole new dimension to his game with his passing, and his scoring is reaching some crazy efficiency levels.
We'll see how Chicago fares against MIL, BKN, and MIA in the playoffs this year. I for one am excited for it.
(02-17-2022, 11:44 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]Julius Randle been balling better since the TDL has passed. I´d so buy low on the guy. It´s so stupid how much some front offices care about optics and public perceptions. Those are always the best deals to be made. Look at Justise Winslow at age 25. He makes 4M a year. The next time Ntilikina has a five game stretch,where he averages 12/8/4/2/1.5 while shooting 50% from the field, will be his first. Oh he can´t shoot. His career is dead. End him now.
Jesus half this board swore up and down last summer that DeRozan was just another THJ, because the advanced stats marks had him down for being a losing player, when he´s been the best player on winning teams for like 80% of his career, which clearly shows great leadership skills. Have you ever heard a bad word about DeRozan in 10 years? Every year he´s shown improvements to his game. When he started out, his passing and vision was on the level of THJ, now he´s consistently at 5 APG from the SG spot.
When he was in SA, Pop let him bring the ball up sometimes and initiate the offense and create plays for others as well as himself. He credits that Pop made him a better player.
RE: DeRozan
1) I was dead wrong about him and his fit in CHI.
2) I cannot believe what he is doing at almost 33 years old. Who puts their far and away best season together at 32.5 years old (in their 13th season)?!?
I think that Brunson's connection with the Knicks has to do with the fact that his father and Rose are close friends... I wouldn't say they are bad, rather they are in the middle of a construction that they accelerated, due to the good results... Aside from that with a core of Barrett/Reddish/Toppin/Robinson...Brunson seems to be a perfect fit both agewise and positionally in a primary managerial role.
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(02-17-2022, 12:16 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]RE: DeRozan
1) I was dead wrong about him and his fit in CHI.
2) I cannot believe what he is doing at almost 33 years old. Who puts their far and away best season together at 32.5 years old (in their 13th season)?!?
Same. But I am even more impressed with Billy Donovan. The defense declined badly without Ball and Caruso but when both were healthy they had a solid defense. Didn´t think that was possible with Vucevic, DeRozan and Lavine in the starting five.
(02-17-2022, 12:55 PM)Mikelo Wrote: [ -> ]I think that Brunson's connection with the Knicks has to do with the fact that his father and Rose are close friends... I wouldn't say they are bad, rather they are in the middle of a construction that they accelerated, due to the good results... Aside from that with a core of Barrett/Reddish/Toppin/Robinson...Brunson seems to be a perfect fit both agewise and positionally in a primary managerial role.
I don't disagree with anything you say but Jalen is a smart kid. Connection to the franchise or not, I can't see a smart player, with an extensive pedigree for winning, choosing to leave an ideal situation with a Top 5 player & a franchise that actually matters to sign on for the swamp that in NYK's basketball. JB is very good but he isn't a superstar or a savior level talent. Turning around the Knicks is toxic, snipe hunting .... at best.
(02-17-2022, 12:09 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]The knock on DeRozan his entire career is that when his teams (and him) get matched up against good teams in the playoffs, he gets nullified. Teams dare him to shoot a 3 and pack the paint. There's a reason why TOR consistently got swept with him as the main guy. I was one of the few that wanted DeRozan too, but of course was wary how he'd affect spacing since JRich traumatized us all.
I will admit, the DeRozan we're seeing today is not the same DeRozan we've seen the last 10 years. He's added a whole new dimension to his game with his passing, and his scoring is reaching some crazy efficiency levels.
We'll see how Chicago fares against MIL, BKN, and MIA in the playoffs this year. I for one am excited for it.
That´s true. Play-off underachiever, but the discussion of always laying the blame on the star player is just stupid. Nurse is simply a much better overall coach than Casey and yes Kawhi is a better player than DeRozan. Well a healthy Kawhi is arguably the best player in the league. Even he was a lucky triple bounce away from losing in the 2nd (or 3rd?) round and the whole perception of DeRozan changes based on that.
It´s the same discussion people are just having about Gobert. Gobert is not the problem in Utah. Are you telling me the reason the Jazz can´t play the most dominant rim-protector in the game, cause Draymond and Ayton can stretch and force him off the floor. Well be my guest and have Draymond/Ayton shoot threes and mid-range all day. Also this myth that he´s an offensive liability. The guy averages 16 PPG. That´s nearly as much as our precious Unicorn. It´s not like he´s a complete non-factor, just because he doesn´t shoot threes.
Okay the Clippers had Marcus Morris at C to drag Gobert, but Morris ultimately shot 33% from three. I think the 48%+ that roleplayers like Kennard, Jackson, Mann and Batum shot were a much bigger factor and that´s not on Gobert.
....but I think Utha knows that, too. And as a small market team you don´t give away a top 25 player in the game.
(02-17-2022, 02:17 PM)jdb152 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't disagree with anything you say but Jalen is a smart kid. Connection to the franchise or not, I can't see a smart player, with an extensive pedigree for winning, choosing to leave an ideal situation with a Top 5 player & a franchise that actually matters to sign on for the swamp that in NYK's basketball. JB is very good but he isn't a superstar or a savior level talent. Turning around the Knicks is toxic, snipe hunting .... at best.
Fans will hardly ever know what is going on in a players head until AFTER the action has occurred. Theme song to one of my favorite tv shows growing up comes to mind.
Had a little dude with a catch phrase “Whatchu talkin bout Willis?”.