(07-26-2021, 10:35 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: [ -> ]It appears Memphis is targeting guys between 5-10. I'm thinking another move up is happening for them.
I could see them trading with GS to move up.
I actually love the move for Memphis. They get a top 10 lottery pick and a future late 1st to take on Steven Adams past this year? Yes please if I'm building thru the draft.
You nail this pick and you got a nice 3 headed trio moving forward. Val was solid for them but also keep in mind Jackson was out basically the entire year. Val was very expendable moving forward with Jackson back.
I like the trade less for New Orleans. And that is why it's moronic to extend someone before you have to in FA. At least non young players that is.
Basically was forced to dump a bad contract to move down in the draft. I think Val is worthy of just a single meh to late 1st.
Even if they take a small step back which they may not if Morant progresses and JJJ stays healthy/progresses, this is smart assets management. You can't always worry about this year. Small steps back for a better team down the line is something I hope the new MBT gets in the habit of doing.
Call me crazy but I put Pelicans as the favorites to land Lowry now. They are going to money whip him and do whatever it takes. 3 for 90 something or maybe even 100.
Lowry, NWA, Ingram, Zion, Val aint bad tbh.
Room MLE.
I could see them throwing one of the young guys to Toronto to help facilitate a SNT too. Lonzo outgoing to ? and Raptors getting a young player back and Pelicans getting Lowry.
It's looking very likely that Lonzo is not only going to be gettable but very well may be unrestricted at some point during FA IMO.
If you don't have to overpay him to pry him loose.... I'm very intrigued. How close to 20 mill can you get him for?
(07-26-2021, 10:47 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: [ -> ]Call me crazy but I put Pelicans as the favorites to land Lowry now. They are going to money whip him and do whatever it takes. 3 for 90 something or maybe even 100.
Lowry, NWA, Ingram, Zion, Val aint bad tbh.
Room MLE.
I could see them throwing one of the young guys to Toronto to help facilitate a SNT too. Lonzo outgoing to ? and Raptors getting a young player back and Pelicans getting Lowry.
It's looking very likely that Lonzo is not only going to be gettable but very well may be unrestricted at some point during FA IMO.
If you don't have to overpay him to pry him loose.... I'm very intrigued. How close to 20 mill can you get him for?
Agree with your Pelicans/Lowry take, not only because of how determined they clearly are, but because they have the most to gain by adding him BY FAR. He's exactly the type who can get Zion's team off the ground, imo.
As far as Lonzo Ball, I'd put some big money down on the idea that he's pretty much already penciled in as the Knicks' starting PG next year.
(07-26-2021, 10:51 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Agree with your Pelicans/Lowry take, not only because of how determined they clearly are, but because they have the most to gain by adding him BY FAR. He's exactly the type who can get Zion's team off the ground, imo.
As far as Lonzo Ball, I'd put some big money down on the idea that he's pretty much already penciled in as the Knicks' starting PG next year.
That or Chicago. I could see him getting near maxed by both those teams tbh. They seem desperate. I don't think that's remotely fair value.
I will say that I may be convinced into maxing Lonzo on the idea that other teams are lining up to do the same. So Lonzo at his max could actually be flipped during the season for assets.
Or it could be a fantastic combo with Luka and you got a deadly guard combo.
(07-26-2021, 10:47 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: [ -> ]Call me crazy but I put Pelicans as the favorites to land Lowry now. They are going to money whip him and do whatever it takes. 3 for 90 something or maybe even 100.
Lowry, NWA, Ingram, Zion, Val aint bad tbh.
Room MLE.
I could see them throwing one of the young guys to Toronto to help facilitate a SNT too. Lonzo outgoing to ? and Raptors getting a young player back and Pelicans getting Lowry.
It's looking very likely that Lonzo is not only going to be gettable but very well may be unrestricted at some point during FA IMO.
If you don't have to overpay him to pry him loose.... I'm very intrigued. How close to 20 mill can you get him for?
I don't doubt you are wrong about Lowry but I still say paying that much money to a 35 year-old PG is the first step in losing Zion.
I think Lonzo will get a 20+ offer from some team.
I'm a big Lonzo fan but I think that's a bit too much. I also doubt he wants to come here to play alongside Luka who is so ball dominate.
(07-26-2021, 10:54 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: [ -> ]That or Chicago.
Ok, I like that. We then trade JB and something for Coby White? He seems to be stuck as a tweener guard on that team and if they bring in Lowry, he probably doesn't have a starting spot secured anymore. JB can come in and back up Lowry while learning his new teammates and in 2-3 years when Lowry is gone, step up into the starting spot.
Ideally, NY misses out on Lonzo and comes calling for Brunson.
Lowry (who is already a consolation prize for the superior CP3 and Conley) is starting to feel like this year's Kemba.
(07-26-2021, 11:43 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ]Lowry (who is already a consolation prize for the superior CP3 and Conley) is starting to feel like this year's Kemba.
You might be right, but I think the perception around the league is that Lowry is a top-tier winner type of leader. I'll agree that CP3 is a step up, and you might even convince me that Conley is a better player, but I think the idea is that Lowry brings intangible things that Conley doesn't, right or wrong. Kind of like Jason Kidd to the Mavs back in the day.
(07-26-2021, 11:47 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]You might be right, but I think the perception around the league is that Lowry is a top-tier winner type of leader. I'll agree that CP3 is a step up, and you might even convince me that Conley is a better player, but I think the idea is that Lowry brings intangible things that Conley doesn't, right or wrong. Kind of like Jason Kidd to the Mavs back in the day.
I was mainly speaking of a target (which is somewhat underwhelming) that we're going to get for sure, man, and then we don't.
(07-26-2021, 11:43 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ]Lowry (who is already a consolation prize for the superior CP3 and Conley) is starting to feel like this year's Kemba.
If Lowry is a consolation prize, then I can't wait to see a shit tier prize.
Lowry is REALLY good still. Especially if he's asked to take a smaller role and pick his spots, preserving himself. I view Lowry more equal to Cp3 and Conley, rather than a step back.
(07-26-2021, 11:52 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]If Lowry is a consolation prize, then I can't wait to see a shit tier prize.
Lowry is REALLY good still. Especially if he's asked to take a smaller role and pick his spots, preserving himself. I view Lowry more equal to Cp3 and Conley, rather than a step back.
Age. Father Time has to catch up at some point. Edit: just caught that he's a year younger than CP3, but Paul is clearly better. Conley is two years younger than Lowry.
(07-26-2021, 11:49 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ]I was mainly speaking of a target (which is somewhat underwhelming) that we're going to get for sure, man, and then we don't.
And that turns out to be a good thing.
(07-27-2021, 02:13 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]This would mean Lakers can't sign DeRozan, because it would be impossible to stay under hard cap.
There has been a LOT of smoke with the Westbrook to LA fire.
Not that much for DeRozan at the same time.
Though I did find this incredibly interesting...
https://streamable.com/1qv0q6
Maybe Lowry and DeRozan are planning something afterall.
(07-27-2021, 04:00 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]There has been a LOT of smoke with the Westbrook to LA fire.
Not that much for DeRozan at the same time.
Though I did find this incredibly interesting...
https://streamable.com/1qv0q6
Maybe Lowry and DeRozan are planning something afterall.
I agree with others that you are going to need to overpay for Lowry. I think that # is closer to 25 million.
I just don't see the Mavs as the leading candidate. If someway they are trying bring both Lowry and Derozan than I think they may be the most appealing landing spot. The Mavs would need to make magic though to get all those pieces to fit...and even than it would be difficult.
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