(06-12-2022, 02:53 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]I’m home sick (Covid) watching a bunch more TV than usual. Just finished Adam Sandler’s NBA movie Hustle. I think you’ll like it. Maverick cameo’s from Dirk, Luka, Cuban and Boban plus former Mav Curry (and future Mav Tobias Harris 
). Juan Hernangomez and Anthony Edwards have the biggest parts and do a really nice job. Feel good story with tons of real NBA folks playing roles. Available on Netflix.
Just watched it based on your recommendation, actually liked it.
Story was fine, nothing special but solid for a basketball movie. Ton of NBA players and basketballers there, lost count tbh.
Generally fun to watch, Hernangomez done much better job than I thought
(06-12-2022, 02:53 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]I’m home sick (Covid) watching a bunch more TV than usual. Just finished Adam Sandler’s NBA movie Hustle. I think you’ll like it. Maverick cameo’s from Dirk, Luka, Cuban and Boban plus former Mav Curry (and future Mav Tobias Harris ). Juan Hernangomez and Anthony Edwards have the biggest parts and do a really nice job. Feel good story with tons of real NBA folks playing roles. Available on Netflix.
Boban should have been the star...
(06-11-2022, 08:07 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I wish there was a tracking for blow-bys to check our instincts against. I think DFS gets blown-by just as often as RB. And honestly I don't know many NBA defenders that don't.
I strongly suspect that you are wrong about the number of blow-bys--not because you are wrong in your general assessment of DFS and RB (which I agree with) but because in the Mavs scheme Reggie was generally the point-of-attack defender while DFS was on whoever was the biggest threat who was *not* the primary ball-handler. As such, yes, Reggie got blown by more than anyone else on the team--just like a elite shot blockers are also the guys who get dunked on most often. But Reggie's job wasn't 'never get blown by'--as others have noted, in the modern NBA that's not actually a feasible. His job was 'when the primary ball-handle makes his move funnel him away from his preferred option'. And Reggie was really good at that--the proof being that a) the coaches trusted him as their primary tool for doing that--to the tune of 40+ mpg when it mattered, b) the team's overall improvement on defense in which Reggie was the designated starting point.
(06-13-2022, 01:42 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: [ -> ]What in the hell is the endgame for OKC? What are they trying to do?
I believe for them it's all about turning that #30 in this season's draft (where they apparently don't like anyone) into a 2027 pick they believe could potentially be a lottery pick. They are eating Green's money as payment for another dice roll.
As an aside, if Green is healthy he's a pretty good player. He's no Kleber, but he IS a big who can shoot, which is something most teams want these days. They might make another cozy deal at the deadline that nets them another draft asset for shipping him out to a contender.
I know they are good at stacking the draft capital. Nobody is better. I just think they go overboard, personally. As a fan, I'm not sure I could get excited about it year after year after year. I do wish the Mavs had been better at it during that 3-5 years when it was appropriate for them to go that route.
(06-13-2022, 01:45 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I believe for them it's all about turning that #30 in this season's draft (where they apparently don't like anyone) into a 2027 pick they believe could potentially be a lottery pick. They are eating Green's money as payment for another dice roll.
As an aside, if Green is healthy he's a pretty good player. He's no Kleber, but he IS a big who can shoot, which is something most teams want these days. They might make another cozy deal at the deadline that nets them another draft asset for shipping him out to a contender.
I know they are good at stacking the draft capital. Nobody is better. I just think they go overboard, personally. As a fan, I'm not sure I could get excited about it year after year after year. I do wish the Mavs had been better at it during that 3-5 years when it was appropriate for them to go that route.
They still have pick 34. They just have way to many picks. I believe they are going to try to move up from 12, but that is just a guess at my part. There has been talk Charlotte could move up with 13 and 15. OKC can blow anything out of the water if they really like a player and a team has interest in moving for the right offer.
I read Denver can't trade a future first until '29, so it is going to be important they hit on at least one of these picks to either find a promising player on a rookie deal or someone who is viewed as an asset for a future deal.
OKC is just accumulating assets, and in this case is taking something they can't use right now (cap room, and a pick they don't need) and turning it into something they might need later.
The 2027 pick will be a better pick than they gave up (maybe a lot better). I wouldn't be surprised if they end up selling Green at some point and getting another future pick.
OTOH, there's only so long OKC can play for the future, without a winning team emerging, before fans get frustrated. They have found a few nice prospects, but are still quite bad.
(06-13-2022, 02:15 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]OKC is just accumulating assets, and in this case is taking something they can't use right now (cap room, and a pick they don't need) and turning it into something they might need later.
The 2027 pick will be a better pick than they gave up (maybe a lot better). I wouldn't be surprised if they end up selling Green at some point and getting another future pick.
OTOH, there's only so long OKC can play for the future, without a winning team emerging, before fans get frustrated. They have found a few nice prospects, but are still quite bad.
Pretty much my exact thinking, stated much more succinctly than my post. I wish I had the gift of clarity (combined with brevity) that some of you possess.
(06-13-2022, 01:45 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I believe for them it's all about turning that #30 in this season's draft (where they apparently don't like anyone) into a 2027 pick they believe could potentially be a lottery pick. They are eating Green's money as payment for another dice roll.
Draft picks serve two purposes:
-Help in rebuilding your team as you roll the dice with more than prospect.
-it is a trade currency, good player worth 1 pick, better ones worth 2, All-Star worth 4 etc.
But as time goes, you lose your warchest ending up having too many picks.
So trading current pick for later one is basically like keeping your currency saved rather than using it.
Knicks did the same with our pick, they traded it for future one. So while the Mavs paid them a pick, they still have their draft stock from KP trade.
I believe OKC will cash on their picks at some point in couple of years.
(06-13-2022, 03:00 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: [ -> ]Draft picks serve two purposes:
-Help in rebuilding your team as you roll the dice with more than prospect.
-it is a trade currency, good player worth 1 pick, better ones worth 2, All-Star worth 4 etc.
But as time goes, you lose your warchest ending up having too many picks.
So trading current pick for later one is basically like keeping your currency saved rather than using it.
Knicks did the same with our pick, they traded it for future one. So while the Mavs paid them a pick, they still have their draft stock from KP trade.
I believe OKC will cash on their picks at some point in couple of years.
Totally agree, and I'd add this:
In the NBA, you can see difference makers coming in the draft from like 5 miles away. Sure, there are surprises that nobody sees coming, but usually not on the "face of the franchise" level that literally, every team needs to start a good era.
So, NBA picks aren't like NFL picks. When it comes to trading up for (example) the #3 in a year where there are 3 difference makers, it's not like a number of late firsts are equivalent, they way they are in the NFL. That ONE player is EVERYTHING in this sport.
At some point, having so many firsts is kind of superfluous, imo. At some point, you're just moving draft capital around the league with very little return.
(06-13-2022, 03:00 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: [ -> ]Draft picks serve two purposes:
-Help in rebuilding your team as you roll the dice with more than prospect.
-it is a trade currency, good player worth 1 pick, better ones worth 2, All-Star worth 4 etc.
But as time goes, you lose your warchest ending up having too many picks.
So trading current pick for later one is basically like keeping your currency saved rather than using it.
Knicks did the same with our pick, they traded it for future one. So while the Mavs paid them a pick, they still have their draft stock from KP trade.
I believe OKC will cash on their picks at some point in couple of years.
...and really, having a draft pick is like having an unscratched lottery ticket. The higher the draft order, the better the odds of it actually turning into something valuable.
But before it's been scratched, it can hold an allure that's sometimes disproportionate with the odds. Teams use this to sell hope to their fan bases. "Maybe THIS year's pick will turn out to be Manu Ginobili!"
https://www.theringer.com/2021/7/28/2259...pectations