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(02-15-2022, 03:04 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see why the Bucks would choose Bembry over Dragic.

I seriously don't get why we'd keep Burke over Dragic. If it was up to me Burke would've been waived last night.

Also curious that the Mavs are in Miami tonight, where Dragic has been staying. Easy to just pick him up and take him back home.

I hate that we're seemingly out on Dragic. I understand if he chooses a more featured role elsewhere but to makes no sense for DAL to not engage, unless his camp has already informed DAL that this is the case for him and they did DAL a solid of being embarrassed when they lost out on him.

I get not dropping Burke. We have enough money weighing down our cap, no need to further clutter it. I was disappointed they weren't able to move his contract, though. Much of the same applies to Brown, here. The move was always moving on from Frankie. If we're being honest, he's going to be available again in the summer for peanuts.

None of these three will make a difference in the playoffs. I have faith in Brunson but we haven't seen him do this in the playoffs. I love the development we've seen from Green but he's not getting significant minutes in the playoffs unless he closes like a freight train during the stretch run. Any role he has will be laser focused and limited. His growth is about next season. Dragic can play with Dinwiddie because he can play as well off the ball as he can with it. SD cannot say the same so he'd remain the primary ball handler for the second unit but Dragic would have opportunity, regardless. Adding him is about making the most of this season. It guards against injury and exhaustion from Luka/JB/SD. It also helps if Maxi goes down and we have to go to the lab and trot out extreme, small ball. Most of all, it puts a guy that was good for 20/4/5 in MIA's run to the Finals on your bench. That's a good thing. This season is about the second round and, preferably, a great showing in that second round. We're better equipped to do so with him here.
(02-15-2022, 03:23 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Clint Capela dropping truth bombs about defense. We should always keep his words in mind. "Individual" defense isn't really all that critical at the end of the day. It is always about how are FIVE guys moving and working together. 


https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status...4033314819
This got me to thinking. Everyone now knows to play a big off the court you have to get the favorable switch and attack them. Why hasn't that been figured out yet? It's a team defense problem to solve, I mean, isn't that big there to be the ultimate team defender? To help all the others out with that last line of defense? Why then do his teammates leave him on that island to go against some of the best players on the opposite team?

I watch highlight reels with guys like Gobert being left on that island and getting blown by (he almost fully recovers, and sometimes he does). If everyone knows the fastest feet on the opposing team is going up against the slowest feet on your team, why can't that guy get help from his teammates?

Just a thought about that "tide" change going away from having a big on the floor. There are some talented bigs out there being played off the floor because no coach will sit down and figure this out IMO.
(02-16-2022, 12:14 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]I watch highlight reels with guys like Gobert being left on that island and getting blown by (he almost fully recovers, and sometimes he does). If everyone knows the fastest feet on the opposing team is going up against the slowest feet on your team, why can't that guy get help from his teammates?


Gobert's teammates mostly suck at D IMO. His impact is so incredible to me because of that. Gobert would be incredible with a group of defenders who supported him in the way he supports them.
(02-16-2022, 12:17 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Gobert's teammates mostly suck at D IMO. His impact is so incredible to me because of that. Gobert would be incredible with a group of defenders who supported him in the way he supports them.
That's not true of Atl, yet we watch Luka try to get the switch off on Capela all the time. He seems to relish that matchup.
Not surprising but still sad.
It really is sad that Zion appears to be following the same career trajectory as Roddy B.
(02-16-2022, 12:18 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/statu...7669694469

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Would be somewhat funny when the biggest threat to Luka's dominance over the league didn't get a second contract. Funny in the sense of how wrong so many reporters got it.
(02-16-2022, 12:24 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]Would be somewhat funny when the biggest threat to Luka's dominance over the league didn't get a second contract. Funny in the sense of how wrong so many reporters got it.

If KP played 82 games per year, what would his contract value be?
(02-16-2022, 12:37 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: [ -> ]If KP played 82 games per year, what would his contract value be?


What he's getting paid right now.
I know there's a lot of clamor about the Mavs supposedly needing to add another center, but I think that's way off base. The Mavs went all season with too many of them imo, and the roster is now finally getting into some semblance of balance, not a shortage of centers.

The roster had SIX (!) centers. (Side note: How dumb was that?!?!?) Now we're in a panic when we are down to four. But c'mon, we only play one at a time! Having a roster of mostly centers is not smart.

I also think the failure to see the roster construction leads to the alarm that Maxi can't hold up, because he's going to be forced to play a massive amount of minutes. Um no.

Yes Maxi played 35 last night, but that was abnormal, due to the combination of so many things in one game ---  Powell in foul trouble, Chriss not available to provide some minutes when that happened, Bullock being out, Bertans and Dinwiddie still feeling their way and not reliable yet for extended play. Change even one or two of those issues, and Maxi is likely in the 20-25 range, which is what we are seeing all the time.

Powell plays half the game more or less, Maxi plays the other half, and both stay fresh. That's not a heavy load at all.
(02-16-2022, 12:24 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]Would be somewhat funny when the biggest threat to Luka's dominance over the league didn't get a second contract. Funny in the sense of how wrong so many reporters got it.

It’s not really funny, it’s sad the league didn’t/hasn’t gotten to see how good Zion could be. As a fan of basketball, the game would be more entertaining with Zion in it.
(02-16-2022, 12:37 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: [ -> ]If KP played 82 games per year, what would his contract value be?
During those 82 games is he playing like he did during this year when he did play? If so, I think he might be worth around $25M, not really enough to balk at the extra $6M as far as value and close enough for a team to think he just needs a change of scenery. Really good, not great ppg. Ok rpg. Really good, not great bpg. Bad shooting %.
(02-16-2022, 12:48 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]The roster had SIX (!) centers. (Side note: How dumb was that?!?!?) Now we're in a panic when we are down to four. But c'mon, we only play one at a time! Having a roster of mostly centers is not smart.
Wrong, we had 8 C's at one point, now we have 10 with how big a guard SD is!


Please name your 6 C's.
(02-16-2022, 12:48 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]I know there's a lot of clamor about the Mavs supposedly needing to add another center, but I think that's way off base. The Mavs went all season with too many of them imo, and the roster is now finally getting into some semblance of balance, not a shortage of centers.

The roster had SIX (!) centers. (Side note: How dumb was that?!?!?) Now we're in a panic when we are down to four. But c'mon, we only play one at a time! Having a roster of mostly centers is not smart.

I also think the failure to see the roster construction leads to the alarm that Maxi can't hold up, because he's going to be forced to play a massive amount of minutes. Um no.

Yes Maxi played 35 last night, but that was abnormal, due to the combination of so many things in one game ---  Powell in foul trouble, Chriss not available to provide some minutes when that happened, Bullock being out, Bertans and Dinwiddie still feeling their way and not reliable yet for extended play. Change even one or two of those issues, and Maxi is likely in the 20-25 range, which is what we are seeing all the time.

Powell plays half the game more or less, Maxi plays the other half, and both stay fresh. That's not a heavy load at all.

I don't think anyone (or at least not everyone) is having trouble understanding the roster numbers you're laying out. It's a good point, don't get me wrong, but we discussed it a ton at the beginning of the season. I think the divergence in my thinking from yours is:

1) Boban shouldn't even count. I don't think he can help.

2) I'm intrigued by Chriss and happy he's on the roster, but don't think he's ready for playoff success just yet, even in a smaller role. 

I definitely agree that Powell/Kleber are good enough (for now), and I LIKE the plan to stay with the 6'9"-6'11", switchable, feet-moving big for the whole game. I LOVE it, in fact. I just wish there was a non-Boban (wrong type), non-Chriss (not ready) option behind them right now, that's all. Kleber does have a history of wearing down at the end of these seasons when the play gets more physical. That's not imaginary. 

I guess "I wish they had better center depth" might be more accurate than "I wish they had more center depth." 

For comparison, I don't expect Ntilikina, Burke or SBrown to be in the plan for the playoff rotation at all, but I'd feel much, much better about them getting minutes if the unexpected happened and they're needed than I would if Chriss had to play (even though I like his potential). 

Maybe Chriss can play enough down the stretch before the playoffs to keep Kleber rested for them. I hope so.
(02-16-2022, 12:48 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]Powell plays half the game more or less, Maxi plays the other half, and both stay fresh. That's not a heavy load at all.


I could be wrong, but I don't believe it will be this simple. 

I would be shocked if playing them together wasn't still an approach they're planning to keep in their tool belts. It's too effective to just walk away from. 

Now, if Bertans is good enough quickly enough to be played with Powell some (negating the need for Kleber to space for Luka/Powell) then maybe it won't happen as much as I think.
(02-16-2022, 01:07 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Now, if Bertans is good enough quickly enough to be played with Powell some (negating the need for Kleber to space for Luka/Powell) then maybe it won't happen as much as I think.


DB is really the whole key to unlocking this roster. If he can give you 20-25 mins every night next to either DP or MK then this team is good to go.
(02-16-2022, 12:24 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]Would be somewhat funny when the biggest threat to Luka's dominance over the league didn't get a second contract. Funny in the sense of how wrong so many reporters got it.

He´s getting the same max contract extension that Porzingis did. No doubt about that. They might also regret it quickly like the Mavs did, but at least they did not have to pay three 1st round picks for it. And it´s New Orleans so who cares.
(02-16-2022, 01:15 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]He´s getting the same max contract extension that Porzingis did. No doubt about that. They might also regret it quickly like the Mavs did, but at least they did not have to pay three 1st round picks for it. And it´s New Orleans so who cares.


Agreed. They wouldn't be going in nearly as blind with it as the Mavs did, either. He has been working with their team, their coaches and their medical staff this whole time. If anyone is able to know how risky the purchase is, it's them.