Can Ayton defend the perimeter as well as Powell? How does he compare to Powell skills wise?
(04-26-2022, 02:15 AM)burekemde Wrote: [ -> ]Can Ayton defend the perimeter as well as Powell? How does he compare to Powell skills wise?
He's one of the best centers for guarding the perimeter. He has incredible versatility, being able to guard Giannis or Gobert.
He's developed a hook shot that he hits at an absurd rate (albeit on low attempts). He can hit a mid range but he isn't super efficient out there.
He's exactly what we're looking for in a center. He's not available though.
(04-26-2022, 01:44 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]I think a realistic scenario where Phoenix doesn't want to max him out is for them to explore a SnT for a cheaper starting center. Guys like Capella, Nurkic (and assets). I think this will be the end result.
That's interesting. ATL could definitely make a move. I think it's more likely they'd go after Gobert... or even get away from a traditional center model.
Ja and the Grizzlies got the ‘06 Wade/Heat treatment tonight. The entire 4th quarter was basically just Memphis shooting FTs.
The last game between these two it was Jenkins and Memphis livid about the officiating.
This league has a ref problem and doesn’t appear interested in doing anything about it.
The Hawks Heat game was the worst playoff game I've ever seen. The Hawks looked like a division 3 college team. And the Heat could only beat them by 3 at home. Trey was terrible. Anyone who compares him to Luka is out of their mind.
(04-26-2022, 09:38 PM)MaxiThreeba Wrote: [ -> ]Ja and the Grizzlies got the ‘06 Wade/Heat treatment tonight. The entire 4th quarter was basically just Memphis shooting FTs.
The last game between these two it was Jenkins and Memphis livid about the officiating.
This league has a ref problem and doesn’t appear interested in doing anything about it.
Officiating was terrible in that game and they let Memphis get away with murder on defense or when rebounding. I guess the philosophy is "they can't call everything"...unless you are JJJ. Then again, Minnesota makes some terrible mistakes. KAT and the other big fighting for the same rebound without an opposing player near them which leads to them fumbling the ball away to help Memphis go on a 10-0 run and erode their double digit lead. KAT is also either the best worst player or worst best player in the league. I'm not sure which. Don't even get me started on D'Lo and PatBev. #FreeANT
(04-26-2022, 09:43 PM)windjc Wrote: [ -> ]The Hawks Heat game was the worst playoff game I've ever seen. The Hawks looked like a division 3 college team. And the Heat could only beat them by 3 at home. Trey was terrible. Anyone who compares him to Luka is out of their mind.
Trae will be traded in not too long from now. You can't have a soft player playing by far the worst defense in the NBA. I dont think I have seen someone in NBA play worse on defense. Even if he was the best offensive player in NBA, which he is far from, you still wouldn't be able to win when you play 4 against 5 on defense. And he is not a great offensive player, he can't score inside against good teams. The only thing he has left is basically the logo 3s, and that doesn't work either. He is pulling down his team with him. Hawks will soon have no other option than to trade him is my prediction, while his value and hype is still there, but GMs around the league will not buy into that hype as much, they have seen the inconsistency, especially if this goes on for more time and Hawks wait. I think Hawks now realise they will never be able to go all the way with him. Hawks have built an outstanding team that is limited by Trae Young. The worst is Trae's inconsistency. He just has so many low moments like these entire playoffs, also during regular season. Then comes a game where he explodes, and this builds up the hype back. But the inconsistency and the low moments always come and with regular periods. He is way too often shut down and takes the entire team down with him. Whenever Trae was on bench, the team played better D and more physical.
I'm in particular impressed by Hunter, Okongwu, Gallinari. Hunter and Okungwu will develop a lot and have two way skills and potential. Collins, Huerter, Bogdanovic, Capela all quality as well. The team deserved more and to be in far better position in the first place in the regular season and not be the 9th seed.
(04-26-2022, 09:38 PM)MaxiThreeba Wrote: [ -> ]Ja and the Grizzlies got the ‘06 Wade/Heat treatment tonight. The entire 4th quarter was basically just Memphis shooting FTs.
The last game between these two it was Jenkins and Memphis livid about the officiating.
This league has a ref problem and doesn’t appear interested in doing anything about it.
Sad to see it's actually gotten worse the past year or 2.
Didn't think that was possible
(04-27-2022, 01:30 AM)burekemde Wrote: [ -> ]Trae will be traded in not too long from now. You can't have a soft player playing by far the worst defense in the NBA. I dont think I have seen someone in NBA play worse on defense. Even if he was the best offensive player in NBA, which he is far from, you still wouldn't be able to win when you play 4 against 5 on defense. And he is not a great offensive player, he can't score inside against good teams. The only thing he has left is basically the logo 3s, and that doesn't work either. He is pulling down his team with him. Hawks will soon have no other option than to trade him is my prediction, while his value and hype is still there, but GMs around the league will not buy into that hype as much, they have seen the inconsistency, especially if this goes on for more time and Hawks wait. I think Hawks now realise they will never be able to go all the way with him. Hawks have built an outstanding team that is limited by Trae Young. The worst is Trae's inconsistency. He just has so many low moments like these entire playoffs, also during regular season. Then comes a game where he explodes, and this builds up the hype back. But the inconsistency and the low moments always come and with regular periods. He is way too often shut down and takes the entire team down with him. Whenever Trae was on bench, the team played better D and more physical.
I'm in particular impressed by Hunter, Okongwu, Gallinari. Hunter and Okungwu will develop a lot and have two way skills and potential. Collins, Huerter, Bogdanovic, Capela all quality as well. The team deserved more and to be in far better position in the first place in the regular season and not be the 9th seed.
Yeah when I say it was the worst playoff game I have ever seen I mean it 100% no exaggeration. It was amazingly bad. For anyone who didn't see the game, go watch the final possession after the Heat had somehow given the Hawks a chance to tie. The entire game was like that last possession.
Man I hope the Sixers blow a 3:0 lead, can't stand that franchise
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Wondering out loud if there was ever a time when we could have traded KP for Oladipo.
(04-26-2022, 09:43 PM)windjc Wrote: [ -> ]The Hawks Heat game was the worst playoff game I've ever seen. The Hawks looked like a division 3 college team. And the Heat could only beat them by 3 at home. Trey was terrible. Anyone who compares him to Luka is out of their mind.
Trae was totally and completely neutered by the Heat.
Put up 16.5/4.3/6.0 on 35/21/79 splits. Hawks were -17 with him on the court.
https://streamable.com/dmub8h
This is amazing.
(04-26-2022, 09:38 PM)MaxiThreeba Wrote: [ -> ]Ja and the Grizzlies got the ‘06 Wade/Heat treatment tonight. The entire 4th quarter was basically just Memphis shooting FTs.
The last game between these two it was Jenkins and Memphis livid about the officiating.
This league has a ref problem and doesn’t appear interested in doing anything about it.
Taylor Jenkins complaining about the FT disparity last game cost him 15 large, but it paid off tonight However it turns out, this has been the most intriguing series of the playoffs.
(04-27-2022, 01:30 AM)burekemde Wrote: [ -> ]Trae will be traded in not too long from now.
What a difference a year makes.
Going from ECF and the talk about how Trae's teams were more successful than Luka's teams so maybe ATL got the better deal.
But now the extra pick (Reddish) is gone and the luster is off Trae.
(04-27-2022, 08:12 AM)michaeltex Wrote: [ -> ]What a difference a year makes.
Going from ECF and the talk about how Trae's teams were more successful than Luka's teams so maybe ATL got the better deal.
But now the extra pick (Reddish) is gone and the luster is off Trae.
Last year Hawks had the entire team full strength at playoffs, while all opponents were dealing with half the roster due to covid. It is not a situation to evaluate for the future, and something as that wont happen again, that's for sure. Luka on other hand was playing the full strength Clippers team with two superstars and almost got them by heroic performances that we all remember. This exhausted the Clippers to such great extent that it most likely prevented their Finals run. Only reason Mavs lost was due to that RC chose to substitute out Luka on the bench with the huge lead we made, and Clippers coming back into the game - and series.
If you look at the entire career, 4 years I guess for both, Luka got his team further than Trae in 3 out of those 4 years. In fact if i recall, Trae didn't even get his team to playoffs in first two years, while Luka made Mavs immedately a playoff worthy team, it was immediate transformation from day one. Even this year as well as last, Hawks barely even made it to playoffs, while Luka has made Mavs to a secure position for the playoffs. So Lukas team - if you look on full 4 years and not just last year, have been more successful entering the playoffs overall, and that's a big deal. Not even counting of what is happening rest of this Mavs series with Jazz and further on - Luka has transformed this team to a secure playoff team, not risking for play-in or anything. Trae's Hawks team the way it runs at the moment, they are not sure to even get into the playoffs the next seasons. Account into that a better and more talented Hawks team. Take into account also the 3x NBA all star and the soon upcoming 3x All-NBA selections, It is a general consensus prediction (predicition as there is more to come and not done yet), among not only Mavs fans but also general community that Mavs will win this trade and they got a far better player. The Reddish thing is also not helping this deal, as he didnt play well at all for Hawks and was traded. No doubt that Hawks would be sitting first or second in the East if they Luka.
Trae isn't in the same stratosphere as Luka when it comes to skill or talent. The fact that these two get compared or debated on any level is laughable.