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(08-09-2021, 04:43 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know. I don't think the Mavs are necessarily under the impression that Kidd is a BETTER coach than Carlisle. There's not really any evidence to support that, that I'm aware of. But he's a DIFFERENT coach, and that might be enough for guys who had issues with Rick.

I don't object to this, but...would've been nice if the DIFFERENT coach had a history of being a GOOD coach, too. 

But, I've made my peace with Kidd. I'm going to give him a chance.

(08-09-2021, 04:56 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I don't object to this, but...would've been nice if the DIFFERENT coach had a history of being a GOOD coach, too. 

But, I've made my peace with Kidd. I'm going to give him a chance.

I'm right there with you. On all counts.

(08-09-2021, 04:56 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I don't object to this, but...would've been nice if the DIFFERENT coach had a history of being a GOOD coach, too. 

But, I've made my peace with Kidd. I'm going to give him a chance.

Yeah, I think the mavs will have some improvement just from having a different voice, but I agree it would have been nice to replace Carlisle with someone with a better coaching history than Kidd. 

It'll be interesting to see what happens in Indiana where they get a new voice AND a good coach at the same time.

(08-09-2021, 03:44 PM)DallasBasketball Wrote: [ -> ]Another way to look at Mavs position in the West is to just separate the 50 win teams from everyone else.

Here’s who I predict/think can win 50;

Lakers
Clippers
Denver
Utah
Phoenix
Dallas
Golden State
Portland
Memphis

Woah; that’s 9 teams. 

Which teams do I think Mavs will finish ahead of?

Memphis
Portland
Clippers(Kawhi out)

Which teams could Mavs potentially finish ahead of?

Lakers(old team/remember 2004-05?)
Golden State(Lots of ??????)
Denver(they good, but not much better than us)
Phoenix(Can they do it again?)
Jazz(Hey I said ‘potentially’)

Who does that leave?

Just Mavs. A team building on 2 years of growth. With arguably the best player.

IMO...
LAC are a 1-horse show with a questionable lead horse. Success depends on KL coming back late season, but even that might be too late.
LAL are a bucket of nuts and bolts without any framework for attachement. Your 04-05 analogy is right on.
DEN is still a challenge, but without Murray???
UTA still has their 3pt shooters, and Gobert in middle. Kind of what DAL aspires to?
PHX success depends on CP3 staying healthy and involved.
MEM is poised to make a big jump in competitiveness.
POR is just waiting on the other shoe to drop and either Dame or CJ leaving.
GSW is a wildcard. If Klay comes back (after 2 years!) close to his old self then they could be a favorite, but I wouldn't expect much until mid-season.

I see DAL as possibly top 4 with UTA, PHX, MEM and LAL being the competition. LAL because LBJ and AD are a lot, but I'm expecting one or both to miss time with injuries.

Really can't see Dallas going higher than 5th.

DEN, LAL, UTA and PHO are a tier ahead for sure. Now in a Bo7, maybe we can beat UTA and DEN if the stars align. Obviously anything can happen as far as injuries go.

Warriors second round pick Nico Mannion from 2020 is discussing a contract with Virtus Bologna.   Interesting.  He played pretty well for the Italian Olympic team.   I thought he would get a spot on the Warriors team but mainly play G-league.  He needs minutes though.  Interesting direction to take for development.

(08-10-2021, 09:10 AM)michaeltex Wrote: [ -> ]IMO...
LAC are a 1-horse show with a questionable lead horse. Success depends on KL coming back late season, but even that might be too late.
LAL are a bucket of nuts and bolts without any framework for attachement. Your 04-05 analogy is right on.
DEN is still a challenge, but without Murray???
UTA still has their 3pt shooters, and Gobert in middle. Kind of what DAL aspires to?
PHX success depends on CP3 staying healthy and involved.
MEM is poised to make a big jump in competitiveness.
POR is just waiting on the other shoe to drop and either Dame or CJ leaving.
GSW is a wildcard. If Klay comes back (after 2 years!) close to his old self then they could be a favorite, but I wouldn't expect much until mid-season.

I see DAL as possibly top 4 with UTA, PHX, MEM and LAL being the competition. LAL because LBJ and AD are a lot, but I'm expecting one or both to miss time with injuries.

I think the West is wide open and there are no "sure things." I think the Mavs could easily finish top 4 (even top 2 in some scenarios, like with KP finding his old self). I also think the Mavs could also finish 6 or 7 seed in some scenarios.

(08-10-2021, 09:10 AM)michaeltex Wrote: [ -> ]IMO...
LAC are a 1-horse show with a questionable lead horse. Success depends on KL coming back late season, but even that might be too late.
LAL are a bucket of nuts and bolts without any framework for attachement. Your 04-05 analogy is right on.
DEN is still a challenge, but without Murray???
UTA still has their 3pt shooters, and Gobert in middle. Kind of what DAL aspires to?
PHX success depends on CP3 staying healthy and involved.
MEM is poised to make a big jump in competitiveness.
POR is just waiting on the other shoe to drop and either Dame or CJ leaving.
GSW is a wildcard. If Klay comes back (after 2 years!) close to his old self then they could be a favorite, but I wouldn't expect much until mid-season.

I see DAL as possibly top 4 with UTA, PHX, MEM and LAL being the competition. LAL because LBJ and AD are a lot, but I'm expecting one or both to miss time with injuries.

I can’t fault you for putting Memphis in your top 4. Especially concerning is how well they matched up with our Mavs last season.

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(08-10-2021, 09:32 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I think the West is wide open and there are no "sure things." I think the Mavs could easily finish top 4 (even top 2 in some scenarios, like with KP finding his old self). I also think the Mavs could also finish 6 or 7 seed in some scenarios.

If the odds are 50% Mavs have home court advantage / 50% Mavs do not have home court advantage(or worse) 

Would you take the over or under?

Over = HCA
Under = 5 seed or worse

(08-10-2021, 09:48 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status...6622394369

Wonder if Philly tries to call BS on not being able to call BS...

Tank that trade value, Ben!

From Marc Stein:

Quote:When Miami exercised Goran Dragić’s $19.4 million team option for next season on Free Agency Eve on Aug. 1, its willingness to surrender salary-cap space to retain Dragić suggested to numerous rival teams that the Heat knew they were getting a free-agent commitment from Lowry and knew they had a sign-and-trade deal in place with Toronto. The Heat will undoubtedly counter by insisting that they did nothing wrong — that they were able to construct a sign-and-trade so swiftly by leaning on knowledge gained from their extensive discussions with the Raptors on a potential Lowry deal before the March 25 trade deadline. Miami is likewise sure to point to Lowry’s status as the godfather of Heat star Jimmy Butler’s daughter as a further connection between the parties, since league officials have long held that policing player-to-player discussion is something they intend to avoid absent proof that the player is operating as a proxy for his own front office.

How Chicago hopes to dodge trouble is less clear. The Bulls and Pelicans indeed discussed various deal scenarios featuring Ball before the trade deadline like the Heat and Raptors, but the sign-and-trade agreement they ultimately struck was the summer’s first prominently reported done deal. Power agent Rich Paul, who represents Ball, told The Athletic right at 6 p.m. ET on Aug. 2 (see enclosed tweet) that Ball was headed to the Bulls on a four-year, $85 million deal. One minute later, at 6:01 p.m., Paul told ESPN (see the second enclosed tweet) that the deal sending Ball to Chicago was a sign-and-trade. When the agent issues such confirmations with name attached, they are treated as fact. How could the Bulls and Pelicans have hashed out a full sign-and-trade agreement in one minute if the parameters weren’t discussed in advance?

Numerous teams have complained that the rush they feel to engage in free-agent discussions before they are actually permissible stems from agent pressure, as well as the corresponding fears of being left out of the transaction fest if they don’t participate. That certainly does not absolve teams from participation — it’s way too convenient to pass off blame in that manner — but front offices tend to be the party with the most to lose, since typically only teams get sanctioned for tampering violations. The NBA has limited-to-no jurisdiction over agents, who are governed by the Players Association.

Quote:What are the chances that either one of these sign-and-trades, or both, is voided by the league?

Slim to none. “Unwinding” one of these deals, to use the insider term for dismantling an NBA transaction, is probably the only measure that the league could take to truly dissuade such overt rule-breaking, but no one I’ve encountered in recent days expects either sign-and-trade to be rescinded after both deals were publicly announced as complete.

Yet if wrongdoing is ultimately proven, Miami and Chicago have to be, at the very least, hit harder than Milwaukee was last offseason. The Bucks were fined $50,000 and docked a future second-round pick after ESPN reported that they had already reached an agreement on a sign-and-trade transaction that would land them Sacramento restricted free agent Bogdan Bogdanović … more than three days before free-agent discussions of any kind were allowed to start.

The Bucks’ sanctions were modest in large part because they lost the player. Bogdanović and his representatives insisted that they never agreed to anything with the Bucks and he wound up signing a four-year, $72 million deal with Atlanta.

If the Heat end up with Lowry and the Bulls get to keep Ball, Milwaukee will have ample justification to protest louder than anyone, provided those teams are found to have committed violations. Fairness dictates that Miami and Chicago, in that scenario, must be fined larger amounts and/or stripped of more valuable draft capital.

(08-10-2021, 01:13 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]From Marc Stein:

All I want to know is how exactly the league interprets "player functions as a FO proxy GM". Can it be any more blatant than LeBron admitting that him and AD invited Westbrook over for a trade discussion two months ago only for it to happen a few months later. Or that he recruited Melo? 

Of course rules never apply to the king, travelling or tampering.

Technically the Mavs also tampered with the DAJ 2.0 signing announcement, but Silver probably let it go, because we had been punished enough already by DAJ 1.0 and actually successfully signing DAJ 2.0.

(08-10-2021, 09:48 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status...6622394369

This puts significant pressure on the Sixers. Their message to the League was that they can fix Simmons over the summer ... but that's clearly not happening.

(08-10-2021, 01:25 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: [ -> ]This puts significant pressure on the Sixers. Their message to the League was that they can fix Simmons over the summer ... but that's clearly not happening.

Yeah....I really think Ben is going to win this staring contest with Morey, which is impressive.

(08-10-2021, 01:25 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: [ -> ]This puts significant pressure on the Sixers. Their message to the League was that they can fix Simmons over the summer ... but that's clearly not happening.

The first step in getting fixed is admitting you have a problem...

I wonder what percentage he shoots in practice and how much of it is mental.

https://streamable.com/052ap8

(08-10-2021, 02:31 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder what percentage he shoots in practice and how much of it is mental.

The fact that he doesn't attempt them is 100% mental. The 76ers are practically begging him to launch them up regardless of outcome and he still doesn't do it.

The fact that he sucks so bad at shooting is 100% mechanical though. Dude is right handed and is forcing himself to shoot left handed.

(08-10-2021, 02:34 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]The fact that he doesn't attempt them is 100% mental. The 76ers are practically begging him to launch them up regardless of outcome and he still doesn't do it.

The fact that he sucks so bad at shooting is 100% mechanical though. Dude is right handed and is forcing himself to shoot left handed.

In the game, he doesn't get 30 shots to get in rhythm, no music, no opposition and really, selectively when the spotlight is on him.
In the game, he has angry fans, possibly someone closing out on him, a shorter time, less predictable opportunities, and he might get 5 total shots in the flow of the game, and they all need to go in.

What the video shows is that it is totally mental...unfortunately, that is often the absolute hardest thing to fix.

When you shoot, there are mechanics that can be taught, but everyone uses loose principles to find their shot....When you think about Marion to Jamaal Wilkes to Mike Tobey (the Bill Cartwright clone shot), this entire deal is all mental, imho.

DFS often gets down on himself but still pulls the trigger.  He credits the team believing in him and specifically "the head of the snake".  Luka put belief in DFS and thus DFS believes in himself.  Maybe Luka is a more nurturing teammate than Joel.