(10-27-2022, 01:41 AM)BolsDamols Wrote: [ -> ]Wow, shouldn't have watched this clip. Hurts. Should have not let this kid go, d'oh!
It'd be easier if we offered similar or more money and he took the NY spotlight. We low-balled him and didn't seem that serious at all about keeping him
(10-26-2022, 10:45 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Just so frustrating. Maybe I will be proven wrong and maybe the mavs eventually wind up in a good place. But it just baffles me some die hard mavs fans watched Jalen play for 4 years and got better each year and exceeded
Expectations all the time outside of one playoff series thought the mavs would not miss him.
I have thought Jalen was underrated for years. Thought he should have started the previous two years at the begging of the season.
Just really hurts
https://twitter.com/hilltopnba/status/15...46432?s=46&t=3xMVEcxddf05kTLqabnRNQ
He fits the Knicks like a glove. He's smart, makes good decisions, and doesn't turn the ball over. Had 11 assists last night. And Thibs has the Knicks playing up-tempo. Mitchell Robinson is guarding the rim with authority, Cam Reddish and Obi Toppin are solid contributors off the bench. And Julius Randle is playing as he did two years ago when he won MIP and led the Knicks to the playoffs. The season just started, I know. But if early returns are any indication, the Knicks may be a legit playoff team.
Mavs have been a little frustrating to watch this year, but my team to come out of the west just lost back to back games to the OKC Thunder. Weird start this year for a lot of teams. I imagine things will settle, but the supposed tankers are starting the season hard. Good for them.
(10-27-2022, 09:54 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Mavs have been a little frustrating to watch this year, but my team to come out of the west just lost back to back games to the OKC Thunder. Weird start this year for a lot of teams. I imagine things will settle, but the supposed tankers are starting the season hard. Good for them.
Agreed. Teams like the Knicks, Spurs, Jazz, and Thunder as you mentioned have got off to great starts. But the most surprising thing to me is the 76ers poor start after upgrading the roster. If it continues, Doc may be shown the door.
(10-28-2022, 11:06 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: [ -> ] Agreed. Teams like the Knicks, Spurs, Jazz, and Thunder as you mentioned have got off to great starts. But the most surprising thing to me is the 76ers poor start after upgrading the roster. If it continues, Doc may be shown the door.
I'm expecting Doc to get the boot, but if I was a Philly fan I'd be more worried about the Harden-Embiid dynamic and how Embiid doesn't seem to be real happy playing the Harden way.
If I was the NBA I'd be more worried about players just being able to force themselves out of teams by sitting out for bogus reasons; Ben Simmons being the most egregious example of recent memory.
The fact these guys are getting paid
30+mil a
year and still have the gall to force themselves to perfect situations is horrible for the product overall and as an owner a bad investment.
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/...Oa6oIsAAAA
There is a workaround for the NBA - which would be
1 the NBA agrees (a) that there will be no "Hard Cap" or "Limit" that is strictly enforced (the idea that makes players freak out), and (b) to allow teams to keep spending as they do now,
2 BUT they instead tweak the tax penalties significantly to make the financial hill impossible for spending way more than X.
The reality of it all is that a Hard Cap -- which the players won't accept -- has very little real downside to them, and probably more upside. With one or without one, the League as a whole is still going to be paying the same in total salaries among all the teams, because it is a split-revenue partnership. A Hard Cap is a mechanism to try to spread out the salaries (and, in effect, the opportunity to play, be paid, and win) with 30 teams rather than in just a few. More teams spending at the same level, equals greater number of higher salaries (and opportunity to be a star and be paid for it).
I would wager that NBA owners don't truly want a Hard Cap, since it doesn't increase their share of the financial pie, but they always propose one so that when they let the players "negotiate" them away from that demand, then they are able to get concessions in other areas that might matter to them.
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(10-28-2022, 02:38 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]BUT they instead tweak the tax penalties significantly to make the financial hill impossible for spending way more than X.
That´s what they thought after they tweaked the tax and introduced sharp repeater increases in 11/12. Turns out that with increased revenue and even richer owners that wasn´t the case. That´s actually what Cuban thought. He was happy with the changes. Got his ring by outspending the rest of the league in the 00s. And the new rules would stop others from doing the same.
The Kings are 0-4. There was a lot of talk that they were one of the teams people was betting the over on. If I was a Kings fan, I would be in favor of bottoming out. Who cares that it has been 17 years. It seems like that franchise is always targeting the 8-10th seed. Once concerning fact is Sabonis's start. Only once in 4 games has he scored over 13. He was suppose to be a core player. Even worse is Richaun Holmes has been a non factor.
I just love the Grizzles developmental program. They aren't afraid of giving youngsters (even undrafted ones) minutes. They mostly play well and develop nicely. The latest is LaRavia and Roddy. I would imagine that that Dillon Brooks fins a new home next year and they wind up being just fine.
(10-28-2022, 03:20 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]The Kings are 0-4. There was a lot of talk that they were one of the teams people was betting the over on. If I was a Kings fan, I would be in favor of bottoming out. Who cares that it has been 17 years. It seems like that franchise is always targeting the 8-10th seed. Once concerning fact is Sabonis's start. Only once in 4 games has he scored over 13. He was suppose to be a core player. Even worse is Richaun Holmes has been a non factor.
I just love the Grizzles developmental program. They aren't afraid of giving youngsters (even undrafted ones) minutes. They mostly play well and develop nicely. The latest is LaRavia and Roddy. I would imagine that that Dillon Brooks fins a new home next year and they wind up being just fine.
Their hit rate on mid/late first round picks is incredible.
Aldama #30
Bane #30
Clarke #21
LaRavia #19
Roddy #23
In the last three years. Just looking at picks in the 15-30 range that´s probably better than the Mavs did in the last 20 years. Basically Josh Howard and some hope that Green is going to make the rotation this year.
(10-28-2022, 03:27 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]Their hit rate on mid/late first round picks is incredible.
Aldama #30
Bane #30
Clarke #21
LaRavia #19
Roddy #23
In the last three years. Just looking at picks in the 15-30 range that´s probably better than the Mavs did in the last 20 years. Basically Josh Howard and some hope that Green is going to make the rotation this year.
I really like their two way guys too. Vince Williams looks like an NBA wing...we will see if he can develop the NBA game. And Lofton has NBA skills and talent...it is just a matter of weight and discipline. They also made an intriguing second round pick of a point guard who a lot of people like....he is just really small.
(10-28-2022, 03:15 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]That´s what they thought after they tweaked the tax and introduced sharp repeater increases in 11/12. Turns out that with increased revenue and even richer owners that wasn't the case.
Actually, it seems to have mostly worked, until the last few years (when revenues exploded for a few teams). For a decade few teams would pay tax, and while a team here or there might be an outlier (paying way more than everyone else) for a year, it didn't last. They would lower payroll right away.
Now, GS and LAC are showing that they don't care about the tax -- at least, it's not a severe enough penalty to deter them from spending way above the tax line on an ongoing basis.
I think the tax mechanism is still the NBA's workaround for an answer, but just needs to be tweaked (which is an easy route to take, since tweaks to what already exists are easily sellable, whereas brand new rules are a much much much much harder sell). Revenue sharing is another side of the same coin that doesn't need as much player approval, and will probably be part of the equation. Both of those shifts in finances allow a team to spend as they choose to try to drive higher revenues, but then reward 30 teams with a stake in those revenue spikes rather than 1, which come from having that excess of talent over everyone else, and the results that flow from it.