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(04-17-2023, 09:11 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: [ -> ]Embiid = Jokic’s son and spastic flopper

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/statu...36832?s=20

(04-18-2023, 12:24 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/statu...36832?s=20

That should be a tech assessed later in the game. 

NBA replay can review that and determine easily that is an egregious flop. Get this shit out of the game.

Draymond Green stomped on Sabonis chest. He's a dick... I get he had his leg, but damn.. he could have found another way to get loose.

(04-18-2023, 01:08 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: [ -> ]Draymond Green stomped on Sabonis chest. He's a dick... I get he had his leg, but damn.. he could have found another way to get loose.

Trying to lower his trade value for his new sugar daddy. Warriors getting bounced in the first round and realize they need to re-tool and can´t pay him 130/4. Enter Mark Cuban.

The Athletic did a poll among players about who is best player and similar. One of the questions was, which coach (other than your own) would you like to play for? Most votes by far for Popovich, followed by Kerr, Spoelstra and Lue. No one picked J.Kidd. 

Anonymous NBA player poll 2023: Who’s the MVP? Most overrated player? Best and worst fans? - The Athletic

Kidd did get on the list of "which coach would you least want to play for". Tied with Carlisle for 4th place with 5.5 % votes. Leader Thibodeau with almost 50 % votes.

(04-18-2023, 02:06 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]Trying to lower his trade value for his new sugar daddy. Warriors getting bounced in the first round and realize they need to re-tool and can´t pay him 130/4. Enter Mark Cuban.

I fear what Draymond looks like in his post GS days.  

I think GS decision will be fascinating.  Maybe it has already been made.   They are not the same team without Draymond.   It is tough to replace what he brings.  It is such a unique skill.   On the other hand, is it prudent to pay huge tax dollars to bring him back/resign him?    Regardless if GS loses to Sacramento or somehow comes back, they are going to have an interesting offseason.   Plus, isn't their GM a free agent as well?

(04-18-2023, 07:21 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]I fear what Draymond looks like in his post GS days.  

I think GS decision will be fascinating.  Maybe it has already been made.   They are not the same team without Draymond.   It is tough to replace what he brings.  It is such a unique skill.   On the other hand, is it prudent to pay huge tax dollars to bring him back/resign him?    Regardless if GS loses to Sacramento or somehow comes back, they are going to have an interesting offseason.   Plus, isn't their GM a free agent as well?

The Steph era has three more seasons at $52mm, $56mm and $60mm.  He'll be 38 at the end.

GS is already in a position that they can't bring back DiVincenzo if he opts out because of the new second apron rule.  They are at $211mm or $31mm over next season.  They are still over if they lose Green for zero returning salary.  Thompson is free next summer.  He's good, but is he really worth something in the mid-$40 million range?  Poole is certainly not worth what he got.  Some of these salaries they've given out aren't going to age well. 

The new CBA is a killer if they try to bring back the band through the Curry era.  It feels like they probably need to start taking a stand on some of these guys pretty soon.  Green is their most impactful On Court and On Minus Off player.  Is that the guy they really want to take a stand on?  And how do they get value if they don't return salary?  As I mentioned yesterday, there are more ways to benefit from Kyrie to Houston than just opening cap space.  He could generate a massive TPE and that could be a way for GS to move Green for value.  If there is any team that should be interested in the Mav's 2027 pick, it would be the post Curry Warriors.  

Assuming Kyrie stays, GS could also do a deal for players if we send out about $22mm.  This assumes Green opts in with the expectation of being extended by his new team later.  Is there some combination of stuff here that lets them fill holes for something better than Vet Mins?  I could see value in Maxi and Reggie, but that combo is a Josh Green salary away from matching the number needed for Draymond Green.

(04-18-2023, 07:49 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]I could see value in Maxi and Reggie, but that combo is a Josh Green salary away from matching the number needed for Draymond Green.

So, you’re saying McGee?

Edit: Actually Bertans and McGee gets you the salary, but prob not the players they want.

(04-18-2023, 07:54 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]prob not the players they want

Probably?

GSW really shot themselves in the foot with their large contracts.

GSW options:
1. Run it back without extending Green and Thompson for another run at the title next year. Everyone will be a year older (which might be good for Kuminga and Moody, but not for their core). If they can't beat Sacramento this season, can they hope to get better next season? Green and Klay walk after next season. However, both have indicated they want extensions. Green can walk this season already.
2. Run it back with extending Green and Thompson. They will remain ridicoulusly expensive. They replace DiVinzenzo with either Moony or vet min. This will be a long painful death, as those contracts will be untradeable and their chances will get worse with each season passing.
3. Run it back by extending Green and Thompson to a lower value. Would they be willing to even consider it?
4. Start the rebuild. Trade Green for capspace and draft capital. Replace him with Kuminga and try to find Thompson replacement in the draft. 

My best proposal remains: 
#10 and Bertans going to a third team (cap space team) for a smaller asset like an interesting young player, future lottery protected pick or lower pick in this year draft. This asset goes to GSW, who hopefully also eats McGee contract. Mavs get Green. GSW gets a shot at replacing DiVinzenzo with the asset they receive, while Kuminga replaces Green. I could also do it with THJ in which case the cap space team would also eat McGee contract. If they prefer 2027 pick instead of #10, I am ok with it. 

I think GSW future depends a lot on GM decision. If they keep Myers, I would assume they would more likely run it back. If he walks, the new guy might receive a task to orchestrate a rebuild. First round exit this year could make them more likely lean towards the second option, imho.

This made me laugh

https://twitter.com/NBA_University/statu...9463048195

(04-18-2023, 10:10 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Probably?

GSW really shot themselves in the foot with their large contracts.

GSW options:
1. Run it back without extending Green and Thompson for another run at the title next year. Everyone will be a year older (which might be good for Kuminga and Moody, but not for their core). If they can't beat Sacramento this season, can they hope to get better next season? Green and Klay walk after next season. However, both have indicated they want extensions. Green can walk this season already.
2. Run it back with extending Green and Thompson. They will remain ridicoulusly expensive. They replace DiVinzenzo with either Moony or vet min. This will be a long painful death, as those contracts will be untradeable and their chances will get worse with each season passing.
3. Run it back by extending Green and Thompson to a lower value. Would they be willing to even consider it?
4. Start the rebuild. Trade Green for capspace and draft capital. Replace him with Kuminga and try to find Thompson replacement in the draft. 

My best proposal remains: 
#10 and Bertans going to a third team (cap space team) for a smaller asset like an interesting young player, future lottery protected pick or lower pick in this year draft. This asset goes to GSW, who hopefully also eats McGee contract. Mavs get Green. GSW gets a shot at replacing DiVinzenzo with the asset they receive, while Kuminga replaces Green. I could also do it with THJ in which case the cap space team would also eat McGee contract. If they prefer 2027 pick instead of #10, I am ok with it. 

I think GSW future depends a lot on GM decision. If they keep Myers, I would assume they would more likely run it back. If he walks, the new guy might receive a task to orchestrate a rebuild. First round exit this year could make them more likely lean towards the second option, imho.

It's kinda funny now, thinking back to all the posters who have praised GSW and their free-spending ways.  Eventually, overpaying bites you.

(04-18-2023, 12:33 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: [ -> ]Eventually, overpaying bites you.

It also got them 4 titles

(04-18-2023, 04:25 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]The Athletic did a poll among players about who is best player and similar. One of the questions was, which coach (other than your own) would you like to play for? Most votes by far for Popovich, followed by Kerr, Spoelstra and Lue. No one picked J.Kidd. 

Mavs fans also didn't even rank in the "What arena has the best fans?" poll.

16 arenas received multiple votes (with Boston and Kings taking the top), with another 5 receiving one vote. Mavs apparently bottom 10 in fans

(04-18-2023, 12:33 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: [ -> ]It's kinda funny now, thinking back to all the posters who have praised GSW and their free-spending ways.  Eventually, overpaying bites you.

Just a terrible situation....In the last eight years. 4x champion. Two additional final appearances.
Last season with the biggest payroll in NBA history.

They managed to stay competitive and keep their core together. Got the max amount of success out of the talent they had. On top of that they elevated the franchise to the top of the league when it comes to value and revenue. Not even 10 years ago they ranked behind the Mavs in those categories. Now they have overtaken the Knicks and Lakers.

What they did worked so freaking good that the league stepped in and adjusted the rules because luxury tax penalties clearly didn´t bother them.

(04-18-2023, 07:49 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]1 GS is already in a position that they can't bring back DiVincenzo if he opts out because of the new second apron rule. 

2 As I mentioned yesterday, there are more ways to benefit from Kyrie to Houston than just opening cap space.  He could generate a massive TPE and that could be a way for GS to move Green for value.  If there is any team that should be interested in the Mav's 2027 pick, it would be the post Curry Warriors.  

1 What about the "second apron rule" would prevent a team from re-signing its own players, if they wanted to do so? I don't understand.

2 I don't buy the Kyrie-to-HOU idea as something with real potential.
    (a) I can't see the "asset math" as making sense to DAL, having paid so much to get Kyrie, then they let Kyrie walk (and pay HOU for a TPE), then once they have the TPE, they have to pay even more to get the player they acquire using the TPE.
    (b) DAL would have to pay for the TPE, since HOU could simply sign Kyrie, which generates no TPE.
    © More importantly is the question of HOU having interest. They seem to be a very unlikely choice of a player for HOU to pick as their one major dollar signee with that cap room. IMO Kyrie fits as the the 2nd or 3rd on a team in importance, but you don't want to hand him the reins as THE GUY.
    (d) They also seem like an unlikely choice to be made by Kyrie, unless DAL (and other contenders) won't pay him, and only HOU will.

(04-18-2023, 12:52 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Mavs fans also didn't even rank in the "What arena has the best fans?" poll.

16 arenas received multiple votes (with Boston and Kings taking the top), with another 5 receiving one vote. Mavs apparently bottom 10 in fans

Did they also rank the arenas. AAC has to rank among the bottom five. Outdated interior. Leaky roof. A little bit like the team. Top notch in 00s. Slow and steady decline in the 10s. At the brink of breaking down in the 20s.

(04-14-2023, 07:54 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]And that’s why you don’t let the players make management decisions. Is Luka gonna start recruiting now too? No. He’ll say they can make those decisions and it’s not his job. He was injured pretty badly from Feb til the end of the season. Perfect reason to shut him down.

Yeah, all the reporting and noise was about the record since Kyrie joined the team.  I don't recall any of the talking heads or reports I saw talking about how much of that time was either lost to injury after Kyrie arrived, either Luka or Kyrie hurt and even worse how often were both Luka and Kyrie actually healthy for the game time? 

Luka hadn't looked 100% or even 90% for quite some time to me, certainly not while Kyrie was getting acclimated to Dallas.  
Yes, they could have shut Luka down on injury basis alone long enough to be higher in the draft now but still with Luka being their superstar I think he has to be willing to shut it down, and evidently, he was not.

(04-18-2023, 01:00 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]© More importantly is the question of HOU having interest.

I agree with Dan that Houston has a clear order that the tank is over. They have a bunch of young players with potential and will get one more this season. They will cash that cap space for good players, stars if possible. Kyrie might not be their first choice, but if there is nothing else, he might be the best option available. They severly lack a PG and he doesn't have a problem sharing the ball. Kyrie might also team up with someone else to go to Houston, as Dan suggested, and there are ways for Houston to do that. Not two max guys, but one near max and one good player is certainly possible to add to all that young core.