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(01-10-2023, 01:35 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1612642330405916673?s=20&t=F2ziPU77Kj2nlN377vpXuA

especially in a world where Poole and Herro get the "max"
Sure they have more room to grow due to age but he was more impactful last year and way more impactful this year than either of them

(01-10-2023, 01:45 PM)Jym Wrote: [ -> ]especially in a world where Poole and Herro get the "max"
Sure they have more room to grow due to age but he was more impactful last year and way more impactful this year than either of them

He is so vastly underrated. I don't get it. WAY better than Poole or Herro. WAY better than FVV, and it's not close. He is a mid-range wizard. 

You don't think the up and down Mavs couldn't use him now? They keep him and with the addition of Wood, they're probably where Denver and Memphis are now even with the injuries.

(01-10-2023, 05:52 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: [ -> ]You don't think the up and down Mavs couldn't use him now? They keep him and with the addition of Wood, they're probably where Denver and Memphis are now even with the injuries.

I think they'd be the clear #1 seed by a healthy margin

Miami sets a record for made ft's without a miss, 40-40 in a 1 pt win over the Thunder.

Injury riddled Suns are blasting the Dubs in Steph's return, 98-79 at the end of the 3rd. No Booker, no Paul, no Ayton, no Payne, no Johnson. Trying to end a 6 game losing streak. Dubs better get busy.

(01-10-2023, 10:09 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: [ -> ]Miami sets a record for made ft's without a miss, 40-40 in a 1 pt win over the Thunder.

Wow.  Just doesn’t feel like the heat has enough to be a true contender.  On the other hand, if there is one team to get a stat somehow in a trade, they are one of the few.  Just don’t know in this market if one is going to be available.

(01-11-2023, 03:56 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]

Isn't this just a proxy for "Total number of NBA fans for each team"?

(01-11-2023, 04:01 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't this just a proxy for "Total number of NBA fans for each team"?

I had the same thought, and I bet there's some truth to it. But honestly, if that were strictly the case the Lakers would be at the top, right? I definitely think it's a heavy factor for the bottom group of teams. It's clear nobody is even watching them.

(01-11-2023, 04:01 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't this just a proxy for "Total number of NBA fans for each team"?

No, because it is percentage of the tweets about those teams. So 11% of all tweets about the Warriors is their fans complaining about the refs.

(01-11-2023, 04:01 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't this just a proxy for "Total number of NBA fans for each team"?

Not really since this is a percentage of fan tweets from each team. If we take it at face value then it'd be the opposite. 

If anything, if we assume the less amount of fans=less tweets, those with smaller fan bases and also complain about officiating would appear much higher on the chart, because they are taking up a greater overall percentage of the total fan base compared to say a team with a massive fanbase like the Lakers.

My interpretation would be...Fans of teams that are trying to win are complaining more than fans of tanking teams.

(01-11-2023, 04:04 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Not really since this is a percentage of fan tweets from each team. If we take it at face value then it'd be the opposite. 

That's how it reads, sure. But you're giving the people who made that graphic more credit than I can. You're saying they found every tweet related to every one of those teams and then did the math? 

I think it's more likely they searched for tweets complaining about officials and counted...then, worded it in a misleading way, either maliciously or because they're stupid.

(01-11-2023, 04:08 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]That's how it reads, sure. But you're giving the people who made that graphic more credit than I can. You're saying they found every tweet related to every one of those teams and then did the math? 

I think it's more likely they searched for tweets complaining about officials and counted...then, worded it in a misleading way, either maliciously or because they're stupid.

Precisely. Which is why I said if we take it at face value, then the math would be less fans=higher percentage of complaining most likely.

BUT we don't know their methods. I highly doubt betonline is running any sort of complicated statistical models to count tweets from fans, and if they are then I truly don't understand the betting world (and I won't be surprised if that's the case).

I'm sure what they did was just use famous hashtags for each team, like #Warriors or #StephCurry and just got a raw number of tweets from that. And from there sifted out how many negative tweets about officiating they had through a program.

In any case, I don't put much weight into graphics like these because almost always there is an issue with the methods and the replicability of it.

(01-11-2023, 04:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]BUT we don't know their methods. I highly doubt betonline is running any sort of complicated statistical models to count tweets from fans, and if they are then I truly don't understand the betting world (and I won't be surprised if that's the case).

I think you would be surprised what AI programs are tracking as far as human behaviors on social media....

(01-11-2023, 05:12 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I think you would be surprised what AI programs are tracking as far as human behaviors on social media....

That's a fair point, actually, because I was surprised just now, having forgotten that AI is even a thing. I have no idea what they're capable of, but I bet you're right that it's more than we (or I, at least) can imagine.