(11-13-2023, 08:42 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]I would say it is the opposite. KP finally accepted that he isn't a first/second option and is playing within the offense instead of trying to create for himself. Career low in FGA, usage, post ups, unassisted FGs. More Brook Lopez. Less Joel Embiid.
Well it's obvious he's not the 1st option on the C's behind Tatum and Brown. He could have been the 2nd option behind Luka. But it's water under the dyke now.
(11-14-2023, 02:38 AM)Dundalis Wrote: [ -> ]You don't need to look at DJJ and Grant and think they are amazing defensively, but looking at them and saying they are a huge upgrade on wing defense from what we had last season should be obvious even in a small sample size. We 100% need a true backup big, and one of those 6'8/6'9 defensive wings (basically the finished version of what we hope Omax can be)
You do realize that Omax is 1 inch taller and 6 pounds lighter than Grant. I don't know why Omax is a big wing and Grant isn't
So...Im noticing something....
Im watching the SA vs OKC game...I dont really see a stat that is suggesting that one team in making best bball play vs the other down the court.
It seems like the NBA needs this. There is a lot of sloppy play that is distorting metrics.
Is there a stat that say that the team made correct movements/plays to score a point.
Something is lacking here. Its not +/-....something else needs to show whats going on.
It needs to be more detailed than +/-.
Clippers lose again. Rough.
I think teams are smelling blood in the water with Memphis. They need to be careful or it won't matter when Ja comes back.
Minny keeps on winning and the short handed GS team is going through a rough stretch the last few games.
The New Orleans team is pretty fascinating to me. Them being short handed makes them a pretty average team. Missing CJ, Alvarado and especially Murphy really hurt them. It is giving them time to play some real interesting young players though. For me though, it all comes back to Zion. If he is a top 10 caliber player in the NBA they really have something. In the two games I have seen from him, he is not there currently. If he is not a top 10 player, they seem like a group of pretty talented players but no where near a contender.
(11-15-2023, 08:22 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Clippers lose again. Rough.
I think teams are smelling blood in the water with Memphis. They need to be careful or it won't matter when Ja comes back.
Minny keeps on winning and the short handed GS team is going through a rough stretch the last few games.
The New Orleans team is pretty fascinating to me. Them being short handed makes them a pretty average team. Missing CJ, Alvarado and especially Murphy really hurt them. It is giving them time to play some real interesting young players though. For me though, it all comes back to Zion. If he is a top 10 caliber player in the NBA they really have something. In the two games I have seen from him, he is not there currently. If he is not a top 10 player, they seem like a group of pretty talented players but no where near a contender.
I had similar thoughts last night after watching New Orleans destroy us. They did all that without CJ and Murphy, and with Zion still rounding into shape.
They may not be a contender, but they are part of a group of teams i absolutely do not want to see in a playoff series as a Mavs fan. Denver and Minnesota are the other two.
They have a ton of length and size. Valanciunas, Ingram, Zion, Murphy, Herb Jones. Those guys are all long and athletic. Things the Mavs lack and i feel they would completely expose our weaknesses in a playoff series. I really like their young guards Daniels and Hawkins.
Speaking of Hawkins, he was drafted 4 spots after we drafted Lively. I love Lively, but i've got to admit i wondered a few times what he would look like on this team. He reminds me of Richard Hamilton with a better outside shot. Or a more athletic Danny Green. He's really smooth. He's going to be a consistent scorer for a decade in this league.
(11-15-2023, 08:33 AM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: [ -> ]I had similar thoughts last night after watching New Orleans destroy us. They did all that without CJ and Murphy, and with Zion still rounding into shape.
They may not be a contender, but they are part of a group of teams i absolutely do not want to see in a playoff series as a Mavs fan. Denver and Minnesota are the other two.
They have a ton of length and size. Valanciunas, Ingram, Zion, Murphy, Herb Jones. Those guys are all long and athletic. Things the Mavs lack and i feel they would completely expose our weaknesses in a playoff series. I really like their young guards Daniels and Hawkins.
Speaking of Hawkins, he was drafted 4 spots after we drafted Lively. I love Lively, but i've got to admit i wondered a few times what he would look like on this team. He reminds me of Richard Hamilton with a better outside shot. Or a more athletic Danny Green. He's really smooth. He's going to be a consistent scorer for a decade in this league.
But Lively seems an exceptional pick at the position. You won´t always get the best guy and so far Lively looks like the best guy.
No disrespect to Josh Green, but that whole 2020 draft. F`n hell.
The failed coup to land Haliburton for Brunson looks even worse now. If Carlisle wants to move up in the draft for a rookie, something is going on.
Bey at #19, Maxey at #21, Quickley at #25, McDaniels at #28, Bane at #30.
It wasn´t just the Green pick. #31 and #36 were even worse. Could have easily moved for McDaniels or Bane like the Wolves/Grizzlies did. Terry clearly had mental issues and Cuban 100% picked him, cause Bill Simmons hyped him up to be the next Trae Young.
This whole 2023 draft êxperience was like eating at a Michelin star restaurant, when we were used to eating from the dumpster behind McDonald´s for a decade.
(11-15-2023, 09:30 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]But Lively seems an exceptional pick at the position. You won´t always get the best guy and so far Lively looks like the best guy.
No disrespect to Josh Green, but that whole 2020 draft. F`n hell.
The failed coup to land Haliburton for Brunson looks even worse now. If Carlisle wants to move up in the draft for a rookie, something is going on.
Bey at #19, Maxey at #21, Quickley at #25, McDaniels at #28, Bane at #30.
It wasn´t just the Green pick. #31 and #36 were even worse. Could have easily moved for McDaniels or Bane like the Wolves/Grizzlies did. Terry clearly had mental issues and Cuban 100% picked him, cause Bill Simmons hyped him up to be the next Trae Young.
This whole 2023 draft êxperience was like eating at a Michelin star restaurant, when we were used to eating from the dumpster behind McDonald´s for a decade.
Oh, that 2020 Draft has caused some sleepless nights.
I was high on Bane early on, and was hoping we picked him at 18. If not i really like Maxey. I dont watch alot of College Basketball but with Bane being at TCU and Maxey a local high school kid i was on those guys. Same with RJ Hampton being local, looks like i was wrong on him.
Then Saddiq Bey dropped a little and was hoping we could double dip with Saddiq Bey at 18 and Bane at 31. Well , we got Bey but it was the wrong one.
2023 draft was so out of the norm for the Mavs. It was a beauty to watch. I love Lively and i think he's going to be a good one for many years. But i cant help but see guys drafted after him and wonder. I wouldnt change it, just thoughts.
Hawkins or Keyonte George will be the two i'll follow and wonder about. I actualy think our biggest regret from the 2023 draft with be passing on Leonard Miller at 24 for OMax.
Not referring to someone specifically, but even in this thread and, obviously, on this board as a whole and in the NBA community in general, people keep repeating how good Zion is. He is the most overrated player in years. He is not even the best player on his team, Ingram is. And it is not even close. Zion is a fat dunker, immature and unprofessional. He gets hyped for his highlight reels but even if he could stay healthy, which he can't because unprofessional, I don't see anything special in his game. The Shaq-comparisons are also a joke, he is way undersized and can't really bully any legit big. Sorry, I just don't see it.
(11-15-2023, 09:51 AM)meistermatze Wrote: [ -> ]Not referring to someone specifically, but even in this thread and, obviously, on this board as a whole and in the NBA community in general, people keep repeating how good Zion is. He is the most overrated player in years. He is not even the best player on his team, Ingram is. And it is not even close. Zion is a fat dunker, immature and unprofessional. He gets hyped for his highlight reels but even if he could stay healthy, which he can't because unprofessional, I don't see anything special in his game. The Shaq-comparisons are also a joke, he is way undersized and can't really bully any legit big. Sorry, I just don't see it.
He’s a shell of his former self right now. He was a mid 20s PER guy for multiple (partial) seasons, in 23-24 he’s lost a ton of both, productivity and efficiency. He might be out of the NBA within the next 3-4 years if he continues to be unable to stay healthy.
You could me right, maybe I am overreacting to his current state but even like two years ago, I was not really impressed by him. Maybe I am just biased for some reason, but I don't even especially enjoy his dunks. Not really impressive to me. He looks like a fat oversized kid, playing on a kid's court.
(11-15-2023, 09:51 AM)meistermatze Wrote: [ -> ]Not referring to someone specifically, but even in this thread and, obviously, on this board as a whole and in the NBA community in general, people keep repeating how good Zion is. He is the most overrated player in years. He is not even the best player on his team, Ingram is. And it is not even close. Zion is a fat dunker, immature and unprofessional. He gets hyped for his highlight reels but even if he could stay healthy, which he can't because unprofessional, I don't see anything special in his game. The Shaq-comparisons are also a joke, he is way undersized and can't really bully any legit big. Sorry, I just don't see it.
He's not as good as hyped. Injuries, diet, attitude, personal life, etc. have all attributed to his decline.
He's not a guy you build a franchise around. He's pretty one dimensional. Dunks and scoring in paint.
I dont think he last long in the league. I think it'll be injuries that ruin him.
With all of that said though, IF. And its a big IF. He gets his diet and fitness in order and lands in the right situation, he can be a really good #2 complimentary player for a contending team. I just wouldn't sell the farm to get him.
Supposedly the Pacers are buying out Theis and he is expected to sign with the Clippers. No word if Theis considers himself a system player or "the System"
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(11-14-2023, 06:03 PM)MFFL Wrote: [ -> ]You do realize that Omax is 1 inch taller and 6 pounds lighter than Grant. I don't know why Omax is a big wing and Grant isn't
Rater than simply looking at measurements, being defined as a Wing has more to do with the ability to move and stay in front of perimeter players, or the ability to score from the perimeter/play outside without it turning into 4-on-5 offensively.
(11-15-2023, 02:56 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: [ -> ]Rater than simply looking at measurements, being defined as a Wing has more to do with the ability to move and stay in front of perimeter players, or the ability to score from the perimeter/play outside without it turning into 4-on-5 offensively.
I guess you need to make your definitions better because I don't understand. Grant guarded big guys all the time in Boston. Who is OMax guarding that Grant can't?
Define these offensive and defensive roles please.
Police say there is no evidence of a hit and run on Kelly Oubre. Story about to get interesting
(11-15-2023, 09:51 AM)meistermatze Wrote: [ -> ]Not referring to someone specifically, but even in this thread and, obviously, on this board as a whole and in the NBA community in general, people keep repeating how good Zion is. He is the most overrated player in years. He is not even the best player on his team, Ingram is. And it is not even close. Zion is a fat dunker, immature and unprofessional. He gets hyped for his highlight reels but even if he could stay healthy, which he can't because unprofessional, I don't see anything special in his game. The Shaq-comparisons are also a joke, he is way undersized and can't really bully any legit big. Sorry, I just don't see it.
Tell us how you really feel, lol.
(11-15-2023, 05:49 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: [ -> ]Police say there is no evidence of a hit and run on Kelly Oubre. Story about to get interesting
Somebody check Draymond´s alibi.
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