(08-01-2021, 03:06 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, missed that before responding, sorry.
I'm getting really, really depressed with all of this. I don't know if I can stand to follow the team that thinks employing Boban is a good idea.
In a vacuum it’s not bad as he’s still a great situational player you basically guarantees you a bucket every other possession but a) the timing of this leaking is weird, we clearly have bigger needs to address and b) we already have Powell/WCS/Moses on the roster, how many backup Cs do they want to bring in?
(08-01-2021, 03:00 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]This is not a one-line license to completely trash someone. And, as much as you can, please refrain from obscenity.
(08-01-2021, 03:11 PM)Hogmelon Wrote: [ -> ]Why don't we take a few deep breaths and reserve judgment for a little while?
(08-01-2021, 03:14 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]THIS is a good idea. We should all do this, even as it applies to aggressively attacking other posters here.
1. I did not not "trash" anyone, not "completely" or even partially. At the risk of beating this poor dead horse to smithereens (whatever "smithereens" are), I will reiterate my opinion that the statement "If Lowry thing to Miami is true, Mavs have once again showed that they are not players" is ridiculous.
2. The word "bullshit" does not qualify as "obscenity." I've heard that word (and worse) in many PG-rated movies. I thought this was a message board for adults. If this is, in fact, the kiddie board, then would someone please provide me with a link to a message board for the grown-ups (and spare me the sanctimonious chastisement)?
3. To @"omahen":
I am sorry that I came on too strong with my comments here. I sincerely respect, admire, and appreciate your contributions to this message board, and I hope that you will accept my apology.
(08-01-2021, 03:45 PM)JamesConway Wrote: [ -> ]In a vacuum it’s not bad as he’s still a great situational player you basically guarantees you a bucket every other possession but a) the timing of this leaking is weird, we clearly have bigger needs to address and b) we already have Powell/WCS/Moses on the roster, how many backup Cs do they want to bring in?
Stein might be hinting that there is a big shake up coming at the center position for DAL....
(08-01-2021, 03:31 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I would rather have him on my team than Boban, because I think there's a CHANCE of getting something out of him.
I actually think that Boban is more useful. He is super limited but the few things that he can do can help the team in certain matchups. Elite rebounding and inside scoring. In the current NBA his combination of height and touch around the rim is more or less unique. And I am not a fan of him playing more than garbage time minutes but i can at least see a case for him.
Burke on the other hand is but one of many undersized volume chuckers. He can get hot once a month. That´s it. He was out of the league for a reason. Among small Mavs guards in the last couple of years he easily ranks last. Yogi Ferrell for example was way better.
(08-01-2021, 03:45 PM)JamesConway Wrote: [ -> ]In a vacuum it’s not bad as he’s still a great situational player you basically guarantees you a bucket every other possession but a) the timing of this leaking is weird, we clearly have bigger needs to address and b) we already have Powell/WCS/Moses on the roster, how many backup Cs do they want to bring in?
The problem is that his historic offensive efficiencies aren't there any more (haven't been for two seasons) so he's not even a great situational player, unless the bar for situational is incredibly low.
Assuming Lowry, CP3, KL, Conley, John Collins all off the board......nobody left that’s worth using our cap space. Sure looks like we stay over and keep the TPE, THj, and full MLE.
Graham S&T should be top priority
Would you take Dargic into our cap space if Precious is the tip?
(08-01-2021, 03:46 PM)Hogmelon Wrote: [ -> ]1. I did not not "trash" anyone, not "completely" or even partially.
From my POV, your attacks on Scott have been pretty cutting over the past couple of days. He has been with us for like 20 years, and while most would agree he's prone to hyperbole, I believe most of us accept that as part of his persona, and I believe he might even play it up a bit to contribute in his 'role' here. He's a valued contributor. To be clear, I don't know that it bothered
him, but it did bother
me, especially when you used his words again in a rebuttal to Omahen, who does not use hyperbole intentionally.
The "obscenity" request was just a favor ask from me to you. We don't have any official policy that I'm aware of, but I believe it cheapens our space here a little when we can't be creative enough to avoid using words like that (just my opinion). Notice that I didn't edit your post, and I won't in the future for that - it's up to you. Just thought I'd ask. I'll also choose not to dwell on you responding by suggesting that I'm not an adult.
(08-01-2021, 03:52 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status...5316021248
WCS is on a good contract. He either stays as a bench big or if moved in a sign and trade. Powell is probably moved regardless. Hopefully not with an asset. I was thinking one could be used for Holmes, but Sac already had WCS and Powell would not help them improve their awful defense. Plus, I have doubts if Holmes is a real target now considering our other needs.
(08-01-2021, 03:57 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]WCS is on a good contract. He either stays as a bench big or if moved in a sign and trade. Powell is probably moved regardless. Hopefully not with an asset. I was thinking one could be used for Holmes, but Sac already had WCS and Powell would not help them improve their awful defense. Plus, I have doubts if Holmes is a real target now considering our other needs.
Looking that way from my view too. Nerlens too. We have so many big men on the team now.
How soon can we trade Brown? Maybe that was the plan all along.
(08-01-2021, 03:48 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]I actually think that Boban is more useful. He is super limited but the few things that he can do can help the team in certain matchups. Elite rebounding and inside scoring. In the current NBA his combination of height and touch around the rim is more or less unique. And I am not a fan of him playing more than garbage time minutes but i can at least see a case for him.
Burke on the other hand is but one of many undersized volume chuckers. He can get hot once a month. That´s it. He was out of the league for a reason. Among small Mavs guards in the last couple of years he easily ranks last. Yogi Ferrell for example was way better.
Yeah, your take is clear to me. We've talked this one to death.
I just believed in the player I saw against the Clippers in the bubble, that's all. The Mavs hadn't had and still don't have someone capable of being that quick with the ball and making good decisions. If he can't be that player consistently, then he's not good enough. At the time, I felt that sustaining it for the duration of that series was enough to take a swing on him, and I seriously thought he'd challenge Brunson for time this past season. I was wrong about that, and have admitted it 1,000 times.
But, they STILL don't have that player here. That's all I'm saying. At least there's the chance that Burke can bring that, no matter how small. All Boban can do is not run and not defend the pick and roll. And, to be fair, he can be Luka's friend, which I'll admit is not nothing.
(08-01-2021, 03:48 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]The problem is that his historic offensive efficiencies aren't there any more (haven't been for two seasons) so he's not even a great situational player, unless the bar for situational is incredibly low.
He started for us in the playoffs and helped to stop the bleeding against the Clippers less than three months ago. Look I’d happily go younger at the third string C-roster spot but besides the locker room stuff he still has a skill to offer.
Heck I really don’t want him back. It just wouldn’t be the end of the world to me.
(08-01-2021, 03:40 PM)JamesConway Wrote: [ -> ]Miami took the guy we wanted at least three times. LeBron 2010, Lowry 2021, Whiteside 201?
Conley had the option to come here twice and declined. Melo wanted no part of DAL. Neither did Dwight Howard or Deron when it mattered.
The list is nearly endless. We have a full decade of failed FA attempts. We’re just not a premier destination for that teambuilding avenue and it’s fine. You just gotta make adjustments at some point.
Heck I have never been to the US and Texas/DAL probably isn’t even in my top 10 of places I’d want to visit for vacation when I come over for the first/second/third time.
The discussion is about the performance of the Mavs' "new regime," so the boatload of ancient history you mention has little, if any, relevance.
Nico has been on the job approximately one month.
He inherited zero 2021 draft picks and limited assets.
Free agency doesn't start for another 25 hours.
How do you know exactly what Nico has or has not done during his brief tenure (so far) with the Mavs?