(07-31-2021, 02:35 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, sorry for not wanting the team to shipwreck its roster situation for three years. My bad for caring.
P.S. What on earth does that have to do with A&M?
1. I'm proud to be an Aggie. Gig 'em!
2. I really like Kyle Lowry as a person and as a player (character, attitude, leadership, etc.), but I think the risk to reward ratio at this stage of his career is too high to justify the kind of deal he is likely to get.
(07-31-2021, 03:45 PM)SwisherPrice Wrote: [ -> ]That's going to be the issue for the next few years, if we're looking at things realistically. I do not think established vets will want to sign with Dallas to pin their hopes on playing with a young player who is still 5 years away from his prime.
As great as Luka is now, NBA players still know the circle of life and you can't skip experience in the league (ex: MJ, LeBron, Giannis not winning championships until many years in the league).
A player that is 30 or older now realizes that it's better to join a team with another veteran star since their window is much shorter than Luka's right now.
Yup. Veterans usually flock to a superstar player's team when they have actually proven something in the league.
Luka is a stat stuffing 2nd round virgin who has already found difficulty meshing with another star talent in KP thus far. Add in the fact that he is non-AAU, European and it's a steeper uphill battle than we'd like to admit.
Good news is we'd at least potentially dodge the Lowry bullet. The next couple summers look a lot better if Mavs really want to go star chasing or make a couple big splashes.
(07-31-2021, 03:51 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Regarding Brunson being used to dump Powell, I don't think that is enough compensation and I don't think that is smart asset management. If you can't get something attractive for Brunson now, there is always the trade deadline. Injuries happen or a would-be contender could be looking for a little extra sugar.
To me a stretch waive of Powell while keeping Brunson is the better option to open up a little more cap space. They could also have a Brunson+Powell taker ready, then turn it into a 3-way deal with a S&T to Dallas of up to $17.8M.
(07-31-2021, 03:51 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]Here is where we stand
Option 1: Lowry S&T for a combination of Kleber, Powell, Brunson and draft assets, ability to retain THJ + MLE + TPE.
Option 2: Lowry outright into capspace, lose TPE + MLE + THJ.
Option 3: TPE + MLE + THJ
Option 4: 15-18M player(s) into capspace + THJ
I just don´t see any way that Option 2 comes even close to Options 3 and 4 in terms of overall talent. So the only way Lowry lands here is Option 1. That would tie us down, until we have actually won the signature from Lowry AND negotiated a deal with Toronto. How good are those odds of success? How big would the talent upgrade over Options 3+4 be, in case of success?
I´m just not sure the (emphasis on: ) new MBT wants to do that and risk losing out on THJ and all the potential TPE/MLE targets.
So the most likely Lowry option is not in your list. We trade Powell + asset either as part of S&T or to a 3rd team (it does not matter so probably get a better deal with a different team). That would be Lowry + THJ + room. This would be a good offseason. That Lowry contract is more than I want to pay, but in two years we could use his expiring as salary filler for a big trade when we have access to our picks again.
On option 4, we are not required to retain THJ. That would be a deal we work out, and his market may not be more than 4/60. We could start that around 13. That means we could afford to pay someone roughly 4/100. There has been no smoke, but I would love it if we downshift from Lowry to a big offer to Ball. A Ball/THJ offseason would be a success.
(07-31-2021, 04:22 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]So the most likely Lowry option is not in your list. We trade Powell + asset either as part of S&T or to a 3rd team (it does not matter so probably get a better deal with a different team). That would be Lowry + THJ + room. This would be a good offseason. That Lowry contract is more than I want to pay, but in two years we could use his expiring as salary filler for a big trade when we have access to our picks again.
On option 4, we are not required to retain THJ. That would be a deal we work out, and his market may not be more than 4/60. We could start that around 13. That means we could afford to pay someone roughly 4/100. There has been no smoke, but I would love it if we downshift from Lowry to a big offer to Ball. A Ball/THJ offseason would be a success.
How is that not Option 1?
(07-31-2021, 04:48 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]How is that not Option 1?
His version isn’t assuming a trade match. Option one indicated the TPE and MLE would be retained.
(07-31-2021, 04:59 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]His version isn’t assuming a trade match. Option one indicated the TPE and MLE would be retained.
Fair enough.
Option 5: Powell, Kleber or Brunson dump (possibly with compensation attached), sign Lowry + THJ outright.
Maybe slightly easier to pull off, but not that much more interesting talent-wise imho.
Ah well, we are about to find out soon enough.
Trade number one gives me hope.
CP3, Leonard, and Ibaka are the final POs to be worked out. The TOs remaining are Dragic, Iguodala, WCS, Winslow, Archidiacono, Yurtseven, and Jeffries.
If UTA gets Conley at 3 yrs, $60M and the Mavs pay Lowry 3 yrs, $90M then I will lose my respect for Nico almost instantly.
Methinks Grant Afseth is full of crap and not a reliable reporter.
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