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(08-05-2021, 11:03 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/CBAMavs/status/1423489263535116291

That is very helpful!

(08-05-2021, 08:43 PM)VintagePejav2 Wrote: [ -> ]I’ve been told that Reggie Bullock has been trying to get his former Piston teammate to join him in Dallas. Jackson is also intrigued by playing with Luka and looks up to Jason Kidd.

The Mavs are trying to move in silence on this one, like they did with Bullock.

Interesting. Any guesses as how the money would look if they could get it done?

(08-05-2021, 08:16 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: [ -> ]6, 13, 14, 0, 4, 0, 0. That's his point totals for the 7 games vs the Clippers. Nobody expects him to stop Kawhi, but he scored 4 points total in his final 4 playoff games.

That’s a pretty good response. I’m impressed. 

But in Maxi’s defense, he doesn’t get a high volume of attempts, and 3-point shooting is inherently streaky. In that same stretch in which Maxi scored 4 points on 1 for 12 shooting from the field (the last 4 games of the season), THJ went 1 for 8 in the first of them and 1 for 9 from 3 in the last. Not trying to say THJ shot just as poorly. He didn’t. Just trying to say those streaks happen. A lot. 

And in games 1-3, before his awful streak, Maxi hit 11 of 18 attempts (including 7 of 11 from 3). And in those 3 games the Mavs were +14 with Maxi on the court.

(08-06-2021, 01:52 AM)Jommybone Wrote: [ -> ]And in games 1-3, before his awful streak, Maxi hit 11 of 18 attempts (including 7 of 11 from 3). And in those 3 games the Mavs were +14 with Maxi on the court.

I think that's a testament of how important it is for the Mavs to get production from the 4.  When Maxi is hitting his threes the team is rolling. When he's cold the team struggles. Same goes for THJ and DFS. 

Thats why I'm all for Markkanen. For all of his defensive struggles he's shown he can consistently throw the ball in the hoop, and do it under pressure.

(08-06-2021, 02:12 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]I think that's a testament of how important it is for the Mavs to get production from the 4.  When Maxi is hitting his threes the team is rolling. When he's cold the team struggles. Same goes for THJ and DFS. 

Thats why I'm all for Markkanen. For all of his defensive struggles he's shown he can consistently throw the ball in the hoop, and do it under pressure.

What kind of salary can we offer him or anyone at this point or are we relying on a S&T with Chicago.  Paul Millsap is still out there too.

To add any non minimum guys it will require trades.
Unless they can change Bullock addition into a sign and trade using the TPE.
That would give them the MLE to add another player without worrying about a trade.

But you would need to give the Knicks something to play along.

(08-06-2021, 02:23 AM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]What kind of salary can we offer him or anyone at this point or are we relying on a S&T with Chicago.  Paul Millsap is still out there too.

Pretty sure we'd be relying on a SnT with Chicago at this point. It'd make sense for both teams given how thin they are at center (they only have Vucevic). 

I don't think the Mavs would want to pay Lauri anything more than 10mil a year, which is a number I pulled out from no where. I think Lauri is looking at 15mil as the floor for his services based on his QO and why he's been left out to dry so to speak this free agency. 

Perhaps the Mavs can work out a convoluted 3 team trade with Chicago and Toronto. 

Mavs get Dragic+Markanen

Toronto gets Coby White+Powell

Bulls get: WCS+Terry+ protected 1st from Toronto

Not sure if this works out cap-wise. Just trying to fit pieces for all the teams. 


Maybe we can get spicy and add in Sacramento.

Mavs: Dragic+Markkanen
Toronto: White+Hield
Bulls: Bagley+WCS
SAC: Powell+Terry

Just shooting some spit balls.

(08-06-2021, 02:37 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty sure we'd be relying on a SnT with Chicago at this point. It'd make sense for both teams given how thin they are at center (they only have Vucevic). 

I don't think the Mavs would want to pay Lauri anything more than 10mil a year, which is a number I pulled out from no where. I think Lauri is looking at 15mil as the floor for his services based on his QO and why he's been left out to dry so to speak this free agency. 

Perhaps the Mavs can work out a convoluted 3 team trade with Chicago and Toronto. 

Mavs get Dragic+Markanen

Toronto gets Coby White+Powell

Bulls get: WCS+Terry+ protected 1st from Toronto

Not sure if this works out cap-wise. Just trying to fit pieces for all the teams. 


Maybe we can get spicy and add in Sacramento.

Mavs: Dragic+Markkanen
Toronto: White+Hield
Bulls: Bagley+WCS
SAC: Powell+Terry

Just shooting some spit balls.

As much as I hate WCS, he can play good defense from time to time.  We hope KP turns it around but it really only leaves you maxi as a big with any kind of defensive upside.  Maybe Brown but it seems like consensus on him is pretty split between "empty calories on a rebuilding team" and "potential to be a rotational guy".   I also don't see Toronto giving up a 1st, protected or not.  Not trying to kill your spitballs.

Could we use the TPE for LM via a S&T with Chicago?

I would be okay with a sign and trade for Lauri at 15M/year for 3 years in exchanhe for Powell and Josh Green. The Bulls will definitely ask for some young talent in return in exchange for Lauri. I think Josh Green for Lauri Markkanen will be fair.

I hope Markannen signs with someone else soon so we can stop talking about adding him.

(08-06-2021, 03:51 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]I hope Markannen signs with someone else soon so we can stop talking about adding him.

We don't agree often but here we are. 

Luka / Brunson / Terry
THJ / Burke / Green
Bullock / Brown
DFS / Maxi
KP / WCS / Powell / Moses / Boban

I have to think there's still an additional move coming at some point. We have a serious imbalance towards centers, a lack of real PFs, no secondary playmaker, and a TPE.

Sending out WCS + Burke for space and then signing a secondary playmaker for about $12 mil per year would make a ton of sense.

(08-06-2021, 04:02 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]Sending out WCS + Burke for space and then signing a secondary playmaker for about $12 mil per year would make a ton of sense.

Are you thinking WCS has enough value to ditch Burke's contract?   I don't really see it happening.  MBT could have just declined the WCS option so they either had a trade in mind for him or thought he was useful in the rotation.  He and Maxi are our only defensive bigs.

(08-06-2021, 04:02 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]Luka / Brunson / Terry
THJ / Burke / Green
Bullock / Brown
DFS / Maxi
KP / WCS / Powell / Moses / Boban

I have to think there's still an additional move coming at some point. We have a serious imbalance towards centers, a lack of real PFs, no secondary playmaker, and a TPE.

Sending out WCS + Burke for space and then signing a secondary playmaker for about $12 mil per year would make a ton of sense.

We can´t create space by sending out WCS and Burke. And as far as secondary playmaker there are Schröder and RJackson. Schröder is a NOOOO!! and RJackson is Bubble-Burke to me until proven otherwise.

I´d like to have another playmaker to, but it seems a bumpy road at this point.

(08-06-2021, 04:10 AM)Mapka Wrote: [ -> ]We can´t create space by sending out WCS and Burke. And as far as secondary playmaker there are Schröder and RJackson. Schröder is a NOOOO!! and RJackson is Bubble-Burke to me until proven otherwise.

I´d like to have another playmaker to, but it seems rocky at this point.

If the Mavs operate under the cap and send out WCS and Burke they have $12 million in space.

What assets are you willing to use to dump WCS and Burke?

(08-06-2021, 04:16 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]If the Mavs operate under the cap and send out WCS and Burke they have $12 million in space.

I don´t think they can get to 12 Mio regarding capholds but ok I see what you are doing. Didn´t look at this that way, it might work, but it would be kinda ugly to garantee WCS just to use assets to dump him.

(08-06-2021, 04:02 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]I have to think there's still an additional move coming at some point. We have a serious imbalance towards centers, a lack of real PFs, no secondary playmaker, and a TPE.

Sending out WCS + Burke for space and then signing a secondary playmaker for about $12 mil per year would make a ton of sense.

From the chart Clutch posted, We have $5.38mm in space if we simply move Sterling into the R-MLE.  That amount of space is enough to make Powell plus Burke a legal trade (note that the $5mm trade spread doesn't get you there).  This is a significant wrinkle in the Dragic conversation.

Moses is non-guaranteed (owed $500k if cut), so add $1.2mm to get to $6.58mm.  You can pair that space with anyone in a trade.  It also happens to be more than the TP-MLE

WCS is easily movable for air and that gets you to $9.5mm... similar to the MLE.  I'm going to leave Burke out of this to make a point, as I'm not sure he has positive value.  Cutting Brown doesn't help because you've gone under 12 spots with WCS traded, Moses cut and Sterling waiting to sign the R-MLE.

$9.5mm is almost the same as the MLE (I'm going to guess that is why Sterling's contract is $1.8mm under the R-MLE).  But, MLE deals and a S&T into the TPE has restrictions as to length of contract.  If you are trying to get someone for what THEY consider an under market deal (I'm thinking LM, but maybe Oladipo), you can't have team control for 3 years.  Yes, only one year has to be guaranteed on the MLE and S&T's, but that is still a three year deal in terms of the team being in control.  So, Dallas has seemingly structured things to have multiple ways to get to one more guy.  I don't think this is about LM as he has QO from Chicago for $9mm.  I think this may be about Dipo.  You can sign him to a one year deal using space (or a two in order to get EB rights, but those don't do much good if he pans out).    You play Green developmental minutes until Dipo is ready and then he slots as the bench scorer in a lineup with Powell/Maxi/Dipo/Sterling/Brunson.  Or, if he's really good, he can move either Bullock or THJ to the bench and Dipo can start.

KP/Powell/Boban/Moses
DFS/Maxi
THJ/Dipo/Green
Bullock/Sterling/Burke
Luka/Brunson/Terry

(08-06-2021, 05:28 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]From the chart Clutch posted, We have $5.38mm in space if we simply move Sterling into the R-MLE.  That amount of space is enough to make Powell plus Burke a legal trade (note that the $5mm trade spread doesn't get you there).  This is a significant wrinkle in the Dragic conversation.

Moses is non-guaranteed (owed $500k if cut), so add $1.2mm to get to $6.58mm.  You can pair that space with anyone in a trade.  It also happens to be more than the TP-MLE

WCS is easily movable for air and that gets you to $9.5mm... similar to the MLE.  I'm going to leave Burke out of this to make a point, as I'm not sure he has positive value.  Cutting Brown doesn't help because you've gone under 12 spots with WCS traded, Moses cut and Sterling waiting to sign the R-MLE.

$9.5mm is almost the same as the MLE (I'm going to guess that is why Sterling's contract is $1.8mm under the R-MLE).  But, MLE deals and a S&T into the TPE has restrictions as to length of contract.  If you are trying to get someone for what THEY consider an under market deal (I'm thinking LM, but maybe Oladipo), you can't have team control for 3 years.  Yes, only one year has to be guaranteed on the MLE and S&T's, but that is still a three year deal in terms of the team being in control.  So, Dallas has seemingly structured things to have multiple ways to get to one more guy.  I don't think this is about LM as he has QO from Chicago for $9mm.  I think this may be about Dipo.  You can sign him to a one year deal using space (or a two in order to get EB rights, but those don't do much good if he pans out).    You play Green developmental minutes until Dipo is ready and then he slots as the bench scorer in a lineup with Powell/Maxi/Dipo/Sterling/Brunson.  Or, if he's really good, he can move either Bullock or THJ to the bench and Dipo can start.

KP/Powell/Boban/Moses
DFS/Maxi
THJ/Dipo/Green
Bullock/Sterling/Burke
Luka/Brunson/Terry

I like the idea, the only problem is Dipo already signed a 1-year deal with Miami.