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So they’re definitely looking at a S&T for Ball instead of using space. https://twitter.com/bobbymarks42/status/...39108?s=21

(08-02-2021, 04:00 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]I would take one out of Robinson, Fournier, Powell (both up to 20m if Dragic gets 17m) or Ball (near max) over the mentioned agíng guards.
If they aren´t an option I would move on and go after guys in the MLE range (Caruso, THT, Marrkanen, Theis...).
Would try all of that before I even think about Dragic.

Duncan Robinson seems like a perfect fit next to Luka.

(08-02-2021, 04:22 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]But many folks here are suggesting that it would be an ok offseason if we simply took Dragic into cap space.  We believe that would be a complete failure of an offseason (with basically MLE money left to get one more player).  I am waiting to see what happens, I am just really surprised folks around here would be ok with that outcome.

To be clear, I think I said that MOVE would be a solid, passing C.

If, as you say, it's the ONLY significant move made, I would not give the OFF-SEASON a C. Lots of other things that can happen, imo. Maybe Powell goes out in a different deal, even. 

I just like Dragic MORE than Dinwiddie or Schroder (but less than Lowry) and I believe the Mavericks are hell-bent on adding a PG (not even intending to debate that part - just going with it).

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(08-02-2021, 04:24 PM)DallasBasketball Wrote: [ -> ]Duncan Robinson seems like a perfect fit next to Luka.

But, is he available?

(08-02-2021, 04:19 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]Are you happy with that as your argument? Compare Burke's and Dragic's careers.

The point I am obviously making is that a good run in the bubble is not a particularly good argument (unless you are trying to convince yourself).  Dragic was not good last year and is old.  He is showing all the signs of falling off the cliff.  His performance last year was not worth an MLE, let alone his current contract and its hard to project improvement at his age.

Got the booze ready for the disappointment known as Mavs Free Agency

(08-02-2021, 04:20 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]It's finally starting to dawn on some folks that just replacing a GM isn't a cure all for the franchise's problems. The possibility of another trademarked Mavs off-season (nothing is certain yet) is going over about as well as you'd expect.

Oh, just that. 

Could it be possible Lowry was all a smoke screen and Mavs are still in play for their #1 target?

(08-02-2021, 04:23 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]I'm still hoping that we see a difference in GMing based on how things go after our primary targets go other places. Not giving up yet.

Me too, pal! 

It just feels like folks had their hopes up pretty high (I flirted with some high hopes myself when VP started spinning tales about Kawhi and card games) and this isn't even a good free agent class!

It COULD be a lot worse than Dragic! That's all I'm saying.

(08-02-2021, 04:25 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]To be clear, I think I said that MOVE would be a solid, passing C.

If, as you say, it's the ONLY significant move made, I would not give the OFF-SEASON a C. Lots of other things that can happen, imo. Maybe Powell goes out in a different deal, even. 

I just like Dragic MORE than Dinwiddie or Schroder (but less than Lowry) and I believe the Mavericks are hell-bent on adding a PG (not even intending to debate that part - just going with it).

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But, is he available?

I thought it was odd that I was reading his name. Maybe I got the wrong Robinson 

(08-02-2021, 04:26 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/thesteinline/status/...03328?s=21

I'm scared to post this, especially without knowing numbers, and I'm sure this will be even more proof the sky is falling for some, but...I feel relief.

Sounds like we’re essentially running it back…

Dragic + THJ makes for an awful defensive background - that’s for sure.

(08-02-2021, 04:26 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/thesteinline/status/...03328?s=21

If our offseason is running it back with Dragic as our big get, I will have lost all hope.  All that does is accentuate how incredibly stupid we were not to pull that trigger two years ago when he actually had some tread left on the tires.  We would be running out KP/DFS/Luka/THJ/Dragic.  That team has no chance of being even average defensively.

(08-02-2021, 04:25 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]The point I am obviously making is that a good run in the bubble is not a particularly good argument (unless you are trying to convince yourself).  Dragic was not good last year and is old.  He is showing all the signs of falling off the cliff.  His performance last year was not worth an MLE, let alone his current contract and its hard to project improvement at his age.

"Good in the bubble" was just an argument that he's been good recently, which coupled with the fact that the's been good for his career, makes the comparison to Burke meaningless. Also, His 20/21 wasn't far off the pace of his 19/20, and wasn't a "falling off a cliff". Lastly, the hope is that he meets a need, specifically, secondary playmaking and vet leadership, which is especially important for the Mavs in fourth quarter. 

I don't think anyone would argue that Dragic at this stage of his career is a marquee get. It's just one move that fills a need and still, based on reports and speculation, still leaves room for more moves.

(08-02-2021, 04:35 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/KevinGraySports/stat...5327869952

Now, if Collins is actually available, THAT would change my opinion of some things we're hearing. 

I don't think he's a perfect solution to anything, but I DO believe he's a "young, foundational piece you could put next to Luka."