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(08-04-2021, 05:40 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Note, landing Dragic would hurt this metric.  Sending out Powell would hurt even more.

The only metric that matters is how may playoff wins you have at the end of the year. Anything less than 16 is a failure when you have Luka Doncic on your team.

(08-04-2021, 05:53 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: [ -> ]Anything less than 16 is a failure

I'm thinking Dragic is better than this guy

(08-04-2021, 05:52 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Ok so instead of a 2+1 make it 3 years with the 3rd being unguaranteed.

Yes, that would be allowable.

At this point the money has all but dried up. According to Spotrac the only team with cap space right now is the Spurs with 5 mil. The question becomes not "does MLE money entice Markkenen" but rather "does this role allow Markkanen to shine so he can cash in next free agency."

I don't think he'll get that on the Bulls at all. He's expressed interest to come here on the other hand. 

Yes, I get the lack of competitive suitors and his interest in the Mavs. But given his apparent expectations, I bet he would greatly prefer "one year at the MLE followed by another run at free agency" (unrestricted the next time) rather than 3 years at the MLE as a Mavs backup. Like I said, that one-year MLE-ish deal is his any moment he decides it makes sense.

Fair point. I don't see Markknnen at MLE money as an overpay though. Especially because I think he'll shine next to Luka in the Maxi role. He's a fallen angel type where his value can be rebuilt. He's still only 23.

I don't know his value. You may be right, but you might also be basing your projection on his draft position and hype, rather than his actual play. (As it turned out, there was a lot of junk high in that draft around his draft slot, such as DSJ and Ntilikina and many others who followed). And as I think about the contract, if he's only slotted to be a "backup PF" then I'm not sure Dallas would even want him at MLE. My comp for his role, minutes, and price would be Maxi, and Maxi (assuming he's healthy) frankly is more valuable and playable. They already have Maxi. LM's lack of defense is a big deal.

Answered above.

This FA period by the Mavs has been a utter failure in my eyes.  Outside of Luka, the Mavs are still one of the most talent deprived franchises in the NBA.  This roster needs a serious influx of tradeable talent.  
 
I'm squarely in the add a fallen angle or two category.  I would set my eyes on trying to add some of the first round pick that have yet to make an impact on their respective roster for whatever reason and rehab their careers and value around the league.  

These are the type of young assets teams require in trades for superstars which I think the Mavs ultimately need to acquire to win a championship.  

I'm squarely on the add Markkanen and/or Bagley via S&T or TPE, maybe both train.  I would also trade Brunson to NYK for our 2023 first back to have all of our draft picks available to set up a trade for an superstar.  I would also consider picking up DSJ to give him Brunson minutes and try to rehab his career as well.

If Jason Kidd and staff are all about player development, lets see this into action.

I wouldn’t expect any movement on the Dragic front until Friday at the earliest. Back to bed now.

(08-04-2021, 05:17 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/AndrewDBailey/status...1920971779

Thanks, Clutch. So uplifting to see the Mavs aren’t the 

1. Blazers: Zeller, Snell

2. Kings: Len, Thompson

3. Wizards: Dinwidde, Kuzma, Harrell, KCP

4. Celtics: Kanter, Josh Richardson, Dunn, Fernando (who?), Horford

5. Pacers: Craig, nobody

6. Hawks: Diegn, Delon Wright

Maybe we ought to cut them some slack. Apparently free agency could easily have gone much worse.

(08-04-2021, 07:30 PM)Jommybone Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks, Clutch. So uplifting to see the Mavs aren’t the 

1. Blazers: Zeller, Snell

2. Kings: Len, Thompson

3. Wizards: Dinwidde, Kuzma, Harrell, KCP

4. Celtics: Kanter, Josh Richardson, Dunn, Fernando (who?), Horford

5. Pacers: Craig, nobody

6. Hawks: Diegn, Delon Wright

Maybe we ought to cut them some slack. Apparently free agency could easily have gone much worse.

This FA pool is REALLY weak

(08-04-2021, 07:30 PM)Jommybone Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks, Clutch. So uplifting to see the Mavs aren’t the 

1. Blazers: Zeller, Snell

2. Kings: Len, Thompson

3. Wizards: Dinwidde, Kuzma, Harrell, KCP

4. Celtics: Kanter, Josh Richardson, Dunn, Fernando (who?), Horford

5. Pacers: Craig, nobody

6. Hawks: Diegn, Delon Wright

Maybe we ought to cut them some slack. Apparently free agency could easily have gone much worse.

Depends on the way you view it. Completly agree that Nico only had limited options and probably shouldn´t be blamed. But if we judge the entire process of the last three years that lead up to this years free agency it is a completly different story. The Mavs were left with the limited options of this years free agent market because they failed to make any meaningful upgrades in the previous offseasons.

(08-04-2021, 07:30 PM)Jommybone Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks, Clutch. So uplifting to see the Mavs aren’t the 

1. Blazers: Zeller, Snell

2. Kings: Len, Thompson

3. Wizards: Dinwidde, Kuzma, Harrell, KCP

4. Celtics: Kanter, Josh Richardson, Dunn, Fernando (who?), Horford

5. Pacers: Craig, nobody

6. Hawks: Diegn, Delon Wright

Maybe we ought to cut them some slack. Apparently free agency could easily have gone much worse.

I wonder how many of them had 30+ million to work with.

I’m generally positive and understanding of the current situation and limitations we had while retaining THJ, but this off-season is 100% a failure and disappointment unless at least one more top 8 rotation player is added. The free agent signings don’t bother me, it’s the lack of roster turnover and continuation of the Cuban led “we love our boys in blue” mentality that worries me.

The Mavs appear comfortable rolling with what they’ve done so far. I know this because mr smartest guy in the room Mark Cuban is already on twitter “like” posts from upset Mavs fans. His opinion of the fan base was basically spoken through his mouthpiece Skin in his pathetic rant on Monday for those of you who heard it.

(08-04-2021, 07:49 PM)HAguiar95 Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder how many of them had 30+ million to work with.

Mavs only had 30+ mil if they gave up on THJ. It would've been dumb to do that unless they were getting a clear cut bonafide superstar ala Kawhi. 

Ignoring the fact the Mavs chose to operate over the cap, they still got the best player on paper at a good contract compared to all those teams.

(08-04-2021, 08:32 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Mavs only had 30+ mil if they gave up on THJ. It would've been dumb to do that unless they were getting a clear cut bonafide superstar ala Kawhi. 

Ignoring the fact the Mavs chose to operate over the cap, they still got the best player on paper at a good contract compared to all those teams.

Disagree.

With the caveat that they would need a bit of time to develop chemistry, Norman Powell would have been a much better fit next to Luka than THJ is. And yes, that's factoring in the additional money necessary to get him.

(08-04-2021, 08:26 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: [ -> ]His opinion of the fan base was basically spoken through his mouthpiece Skin in his pathetic rant on Monday for those of you who heard it.

I did not hear it. Where might I find this?

(08-04-2021, 08:33 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ]With the caveat that they would need a bit of time to develop chemistry, Norman Powell would have been a much better fit next to Luka than THJ is. And yes, that's factoring in the additional money necessary to get him.

I think the differences between the two are miniscule enough that I'm glad the Mavs saved an extra year and 16 mil to retain a guy we know is a solid fit next to Luka. 

I gave THJ a lot of flack earlier in the year and wasn't a believer. I was skeptical he could continue his newfound efficient shooting. He was the only one of our role players that really stepped up in the playoffs and I think the Mavs got him on a solid deal. 

I don't think any one of those teams listed by Jommybone had a better summer than the Mavs. 

(For the record I would've liked Powell here in addition to THJ. Same with Lowry, Ball, and Conley).

(08-04-2021, 08:38 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I did not hear it. Where might I find this?

It was awful. He was screaming and said we need to stop bitching and called us all bitches. Not kidding.

(08-04-2021, 08:43 PM)VintagePejav2 Wrote: [ -> ]It was awful. He was screaming and said we need to stop bitching and called us all bitches. Not kidding.

I have to hear this. Was it on his radio show? Where can I listen???

(08-04-2021, 08:44 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I have to hear this. Was it on his radio show? Where can I listen???

Maybe here?

https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL3Nob3cvNDIyMjQ4Ny9lcGlzb2Rlcy9mZWVk&episode=aHR0cHM6Ly9hcGkuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL2VwaXNvZGUvNDU5NDIwODc%3D

I gotta find the Skin audio too. Skin gets fired up about angry Mavs social media. I'll probably agree with him, LOL, but just wouldn't say things in the way he says them.