(07-22-2021, 02:03 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]That isn't that high. Could you see THJ and Powell together? Luka-THJ-Powell-DFS-KP. Offensivelly the spacing would be phenomenal. Defensively... Let's say we would be fun to watch 
https://ahnfiredigital.com/nba/portland-...-annually/
It is very reasonable. I think somebody posted that Mavs were in his top 3? I think if we do this I would rather have somebody like Batum. That would be a KP/Batum/DFS/Luka/Powell starting lineup. More balanced and Batum can actually provide a little secondary play making.
I'm kind of worried that Batum is fools gold.
(07-22-2021, 11:49 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]I'm kind of worried that Batum is fools gold.
I think there is a chance of that, esp if given a bigger role all season like he had in LaC's playoffs. I also think there is a chance he's great at that role.
(07-23-2021, 12:10 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]I think there is a chance of that, esp if given a bigger role all season like he had in LaC's playoffs. I also think there is a chance he's great at that role.
It is surprising how big a role he had in the regular season. In fact, he led the team in regular season minutes. His shot attempts and three attempts and assists were similar in the playoffs to what they were in the regular season (but his shooting was wildly inconsistent from series to series). That would be one of my worries...he's been pretty hot and cold from three throughout his career.
LAC used him differently than he's been used in his career (cut the assist % in half and usage was way down because of it). He was better at D than he's been in the past (and able to guard multiple positions). He's been pretty consistent about being an on-court positive through his career, but last year's version was far different than the high usage on a bad team guy we saw through much of his career in Charlotte. Since we are spending $30 million on our center, we probably need to cover PF much less expensively. We could do much worse than Batum and Maxi sharing the position.
Not sure where to put this (probably the free agency thread), but was listening to Hardwood Knocks yesterday and Sabreena Merchant (SB Nation in LA) was the guest. She is probably most worried about LAC not being able to keep Batum and LAL losing Caruso who she believes will get good offers from other teams. She said Caruso's two man numbers with Lebron are the best of ANY player Lebron has played with in his entire career. Let that sink in. She said he just knows how to be that complimentary player to a superstar.
He plays really good defense. Sabreena made the point that Milwaukee won the series by mucking up the game and not allowing Phoenix to play what she called "the beautiful game". She said with limited ways to improve the offense (especially when Lebron sits and things go to hell), they may have to go a similar route and just play a more disruptive game. I tend to think Kidd may want to go in a similar direction and actually play D rather than just talk about it. Good news, he's not a Rich Paul guy. The Caru-show coming to Dallas would be another attempt at putting a 3D guard next to Luka. This time, the head coach would have also been lead scout on whether he can do the job better than DWright or JRich.
(07-23-2021, 07:02 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Caruso
All LA players are overhyped to me. Caruso might be a great team player, but looking at the production he is just a role player. Is he ready for a bigger role?
He is 26, so entering his prime. He is scoring roughly 6 ppg in 20 minutes. His turnovers (1.3 pg) are a bit concerning at such low usage. Plays defense and doesn't do a lot of stuff that are above his abilities, but is sort of invisible on offense taking only 5 shots per game in 20 mpg on nothing special efficiency. His three point shooting is all over the place, probably due to relatively small sample. One season he is at 30 %, the next at 40+ %. That is great in limited minutes, but can it work in heavy minutes? I am affraid he is just a Kleber type - great role player that becomes underwhelming when asked to do too much (which happened to both Wright and JRich). Sure Kidd knows best what he is and what he is not. But from what I know, I would be extremely reluctant to sign him even near MLE level money, let alone more.
Above all, Mavs need another competent scorer. If you go for Caruso at guard, the big target would likely be someone like Holmes or Collins. Neither really good at creating for himself. I would be extremely affraid about our spacing if we lose THJ for Holmes/Caruso or even Collins/Caruso. How much sense does it have to bring a secondary facilitator at guard and Caruso while trying to get minutes to Brunson and Green?
(07-23-2021, 07:02 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Caruso
Egoless winner.
The exact kind of player the Mavs need with Luka.
Weird thought I had, but I was thinking about Toronto- it's pretty much accepted by everyone that Lowry is leaving. If Lowry leaves for $20+ million to a team with cap space, would it be possible for us to get in on that and give Toronto KP for basically "free"? Something like
Toronto receives
KP
Dallas receives
Boucher
Lowry's Chosen Team receives
Lowry
This would be a way to basically dump KP's salary while receiving a usable player. It might appeal to Toronto too since they don't really have cap room even losing Lowry and KP could in theory be a good fit with Siakam.
For the Mavs, they would suddenly have close to $60 million in cap space, more than enough for Collins AND a good playmaker. I suppose this trade could be greatly simplified if the Mavs were Lowry's destination.
Ringer reported GSW, Indy, Sacramento and NO are aggresively looking to upgrade with vets instead of using those picks. So I am interested which team would be willing to offer players for late lottery pick and which even has such players and compare those possibilities with Dallas. Sad reality is that KP is the only Dallas player that could potentially have the upside to be considered in a lottery pick discussion. I don't believe anyone would consider trading those picks for DFS or Brunson, who are arguably our next best players, not counting FA THJ.
I won't go into Beal and similar top players pipedreams. Those four teams would offer far more than just a late lottery pick for such a talent. I will check solid starter level guys. Before going into what could be offered let me define what salary would those four teams send back. I am assuming neither will have cap space in such an occasion, oeprating over the cap. Neither wants to send key players but they all have to send something to salary match.
GSW would likely offer Wiggins. They could also do Oubre but can they pay even more luxury tax? I doubt Wiseman and pick would be in play for a solid starter while rest of contracts are too small to do something considerable.
Sacramento has Bagley, Hield and Wright as contracts they could afford to lose for a better player.
NO has obviously Adams and Bledsoe. Both negative contracts and I don't care about how many 3 point shooting videos of Adams they post. If he is (will be soon) such a great shooter, there is no reason for NO to trade him. Since lottery pick is already on the table, I doubt NO would be keen to add either of their youngsters for just a solid vet.
Indy is more tricky. They have endless list of solid vets themselves. I am not even sure what kind of solid vet would make them so much better. If anything, they need to get a higher ceiling guy. I don't even see a major hole in their roster, when everyone is healthy. Sure Turner and Sabonis are not perfect together, but which solid player would make that (much) better. Unless of course there is some lockerroom stuff we don't know about.
Looking at teams that might be interested in the lottery pick for a good player:
- Atlanta with Collins SnT, but probably not willing to take back salary (they could just resign Collins then)
- Boston - I don't think any solid player worth late lottery pick is on the table
- Bkn - see Boston
- Chicago - see Boston
- Charlotte - I guess they are more interested in good players than lottery pick themselves. I doubt they would do Adams/Bledsoe for Hayward. Or Bagley/Hield for Hayward.
- Cleveland - Sexton
- Den - see Boston
- Det - see Boston
- Hou - perhaps Wood. As a rebuilding team they might be interested to cash in on Wood and get a prospect like Bagley and #9.
- LAC, LAL, MEM, MIA, MIL - see Boston
- Min - Beasley? But I guess they are more interested to improve themselves. They desperately need a good PF fit next to Towns and no one has that on the table
- NY - see Boston
- OKC - would they do a cap cleering move of (let's say) Wright and #9 for Dort and #18? It would allow Sacramento to resign Holmes.
- Orl, Phi, Pho, Por - see Boston
- SA - if they trully commit to rebuild I guess they could put Wright or Murray on the table for the pick and reclamation project like Bagley. Rest I am not so sure
- Tor - I don't think Siakam, FVV or OG would be on the table for such a deal as discussed
- Was - see Boston
So to sum up. Not a lot of options for those teams. Sexton, Wood and perhaps SA. So KP might not look as such a bad option if those couple of opportunities don't pan out.
As Dallas, I wouldn't touch the NO option of Bledsoe and Adams. I doubt Indy would be interested in KP, no matter what. I would be intrigued by Hield/Bagley and Wiggins packages. Everything of course with that lottery pick.
Interesting and funny piece. Four beat writers acting as Raptors/Heat/Philly/Mavs/NY representatives and one as Lowry agent in his FA negotiations. Miami won and signed him for 50/2. Cato is a horrible salesman...
https://theathletic.com/2718214/2021/07/...ke-a-deal/
Here is the potential KP trade. Would love Sexton to be shipped to a third team for something else. But even so. We would get a decent PF, a second scorer (but not facilitator!) and enough cap space for even another good player.
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status...7875806213
Is this where you guys post trades?
I don't think this would happen because I think Kidd seems to have some KP hope and I don't think the Mavs want to trade low on him, but would you entertain (Locked On floated it, forgive me if you guys have already dissected this idea)...
some type of package that includes KP for Buddy Heild and Marvin Bagley?
(07-23-2021, 12:07 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]Is this where you guys post trades?
I don't think this would happen because I think Kidd seems to have some KP hope and I don't think the Mavs want to trade low on him, but would you entertain (Locked On floated it, forgive me if you guys have already dissected this idea)...
some type of package that includes KP for Buddy Heild and Marvin Bagley?
This is one 5 places to post trades on this board...
(07-23-2021, 12:07 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]Is this where you guys post trades?
I don't think this would happen because I think Kidd seems to have some KP hope and I don't think the Mavs want to trade low on him, but would you entertain (Locked On floated it, forgive me if you guys have already dissected this idea)...
some type of package that includes KP for Buddy Heild and Marvin Bagley?
I would do it if they gave us this year's pick and a protected 2023 pick so we can trade that to NY for our pick back. Then I would sign Holmes afterward!!! (although, conventional wisdom would say getting 3 lesser players from a non-playoff team isn't the best idea)
(07-23-2021, 10:02 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Here is the potential KP trade. Would love Sexton to be shipped to a third team for something else. But even so. We would get a decent PF, a second scorer (but not facilitator!) and enough cap space for even another good player.
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status...7875806213
I´d rather have Porzingis wave towels for three years than open the door for this washed-up locker room malice Kevin Love.
(07-23-2021, 12:07 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]Is this where you guys post trades?
"Roster Talk" preferrably.....but whatever, just do what you want. Who cares about organization.
A rMLE candidate I don't think is getting enough attention is Patty Mills. Dude would thrive here off the bench. If we trade Brunson he'd be one of my first calls.
(07-23-2021, 09:25 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting and funny piece. Four beat writers acting as Raptors/Heat/Philly/Mavs/NY representatives and one as Lowry agent in his FA negotiations. Miami won and signed him for 50/2. Cato is a horrible salesman...
https://theathletic.com/2718214/2021/07/...ke-a-deal/
That was well done. Thanks for posting. The guy playing Bartelstein did an excellent job.
(07-23-2021, 01:52 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]A rMLE candidate I don't think is getting enough attention is Patty Mills. Dude would thrive here off the bench. If we trade Brunson he'd be one of my first calls.
He is one of my favorite off the bench guys in the league. I don't really see an avenue for him here, but would love to see it.
I can definitely see him going to a contender for the mid level and playing important minutes in deciding playoff moments. Just an excellent rotation piece who can play big in big moments.