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(07-25-2021, 12:11 PM)TurkishMFFL Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone wants to start the Fournier to the Mavs thread? He was superb today against the USA.
I honestly think plan C for the Mavs is Fournier + Center
With that C turning into Holmes if they get either DP or Maxi on a trade. If not, Noel or some lower cost big is the target.
Bottom line: They will get a playmaker and a big at plan C.
Plan A being Kawhi and plan B being Collins.
(07-25-2021, 12:25 PM)VintagePejav2 Wrote: [ -> ]Shams says the Mavs are prioritizing re-signing THJ
Yuck. Doesn't get worse then that.
(07-25-2021, 12:42 PM)HAguiar95 Wrote: [ -> ]Yuck. Doesn't get worse then that.
How about prioritizing THJ and looking to sign Schroeder?
I think from what we heard so far Mavs showed no interest to throw around assets for non star players. And realistically, they can't build a package for a star trade. Looks to me they will try to get a "star" FA using SnT (sending a mid sized salary) which would leave enough cap to resign THJ.
(07-24-2021, 06:51 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]There's really not a "prove it" scenario available using the sign-and-trade mechanism, unless VO is trying to prove himself in year one in order to get to be a Mav for another 2 years at about the same salary.
Besides the Heat, is there any team in the NBA that 1) has the space/means to give Dipo a big salary for at least 2 years and 2) wants to do that?
You pointed out a while ago that Oladipo can just sign a 1 year deal with the Heat at a moderate salary, after which the Heat obtain his bird rights and can then theoretically throw an absurd amount at him if he's still good.
Hypothetically if the Mavs traded for Dipo before free agency (lets say a draft night trade) wouldn't that same scenario apply since his contract doesn't end until after August 1st? As in the Mavs can give him a 1 year deal and then get his bird rights next offseason?
(07-25-2021, 01:08 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]I think from what we heard so far Mavs showed no interest to throw around assets for non star players. And realistically, they can't build a package for a star trade. Looks to me they will try to get a "star" FA using SnT (sending a mid sized salary) which would leave enough cap to resign THJ.
If it is going to be Lowry (improves upon JRich) and retaining THJ, I hope they send out enough salary to trade match and retain the full MLE.
What is the plan in Toronto? JRich plus Powell easily matches Lowry's stated $25mm requirement. JRich plus WCS and Burke gets you to $49mm over two years. Or, you can do JRich plus only WCS and push some salary into a non-guaranteed 3rd year. We don't really need Powell AND WCS if THJ/Lowry are starting and pushing Maxi to backup big role. Would be nice to have some or all of the MLE to add Batum.
KP WC-Powell
Maxi
DFS Bey
Batum
THJ BAE
Green
Luka Burke
Brunson
Lowry Terry
(07-25-2021, 01:29 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Hypothetically if the Mavs traded for Dipo before free agency (lets say a draft night trade) wouldn't that same scenario apply since his contract doesn't end until after August 1st? As in the Mavs can give him a 1 year deal and then get his bird rights next offseason?
You can’t trade a player on an expiring contract once the TDL passes
(07-25-2021, 01:34 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]If it is going to be Lowry
I think Lowry means the Mavs will be eyeing 2023 free agency.....
(07-25-2021, 01:46 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I think Lowry means the Mavs will be eyeing 2023 free agency.....
Or Beal or Lillard to demand trades also...
(07-25-2021, 01:34 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]If it is going to be Lowry (improves upon JRich) and retaining THJ, I hope they send out enough salary to trade match and retain the full MLE.
I don't have hope it will be that "compex". No reason why Toronto would take JRich and Powell from us unless we send them assets - I don't think it would be wise to throw assets away in such a deal. My guess would be more in the line of Kleber.
If we would get a guard and THJ, I see little reason to keep Brunson. I would explore trading him for 2023 pick (OKC, NY, NO) which would give us the possibility to jump in play when next star becomes available. Powell salary will be more valuable then to salary match then now as a dump to get MLE over rMLE.
(07-25-2021, 01:29 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Hypothetically if the Mavs traded for Dipo before free agency (lets say a draft night trade) wouldn't that same scenario apply since his contract doesn't end until after August 1st? As in the Mavs can give him a 1 year deal and then get his bird rights next offseason?
Sam Stetz gave the most important answer...it is an ending contract and he can't be traded in July.
I tried to think through something involving an extension as he is currently eligible to be extended. The contract limit is 3 years for an extend and trade (including the current season, so two new seasons). That sound promising. But, you can't Extend and Trade if the transaction occurs after the season. Well crap...seemed like we were on a role.
Next question...could Miami extend him and trade him to you before the season begins. There is a six month rule if you include certain provisions (the size of raises for instance). But, if you don't include those things, it appears that Miami would have to hang onto him for 90 days or until 12/15, whichever is later. So, that doesn't work either. Sorry, I tried.
(07-25-2021, 02:11 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]If we would get a guard and THJ, I see little reason to keep Brunson. I would explore trading him for 2023 pick (OKC, NY, NO) which would give us the possibility to jump in play when next star becomes available.
I’m all for a 23 pick, but don’t agree on not needing Brunson. If the system we run works best with two creators, then we need a total of three so that two can be on the floor at all times.
I’m not sure what the plan is for Toronto, but there is at least some thought they are resetting their timeline. Powell coming home for the next two years would certainly be possible in a situation like that.
(07-25-2021, 02:33 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Powell coming home for the next two years would certainly be possible in a situation like that.
Sure, if you send them an asset, imho. I don't see logic to take negative contract to do us a favor, just because he is Canadian. They have their Canadian centre already in Birch, and it makes way more sense to keep him for them.
(07-25-2021, 03:04 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportsn...en/sn-amp/
Raptors are a real interesting team this offseason. As is the dumpster team known as Cleveland.
I think the Raptors getting Ben Simmons is my favorite landing spot for him. I just don't think Morey is going to send him there an Toronto's GM won't get fleeced.
Cleveland is a mess. I would be really worried paying Allen 18 plus million a year on a team so far off. I know Sexton is a mixed bag but if they got Mobley, a young nucleus of Mobley, Allen, Okoro, Garland and Sexton is at least interesting. Okoro is a ways off imo but he could eventually be a tough SOB if he learns to shoot. Garland and Sexton is an tough match but having Mobley and Allen on the interior at least makes it tougher to score at the rim.
For some reason I am really interested in both Cleveland and Orlando's offseason.