(07-30-2021, 07:53 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Let's say Dinwiddie to Washington, Paul stays in Phoenix and Conley stays in Utah. The secondary creator market is getting thin.
Three words: Reg. E. Jackson.
(07-30-2021, 12:27 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]That's fair, ...
But, we're all just speculating here.
Yes, we are all just speculating here. Except, of course, for those who boldly proclaim that the "new MBT" is composed of either a bunch of liars or a bunch of failures because some guy [Stein] on the Internet tweeted that "the Heat would appear to have a recruiting advantage through Lowry’s close relationship with Miami star Jimmy Butler."
(07-30-2021, 12:06 PM)Hogmelon Wrote: [ -> ]2. How certain are you that Lowry at $90,000,000 for three years is such an earth-shakingly fantabulous deal that the thought of missing out on it is worth all your hand-wringing and über-angst?
Answering this is like shooting fish in a barrel. Because of the combination of the Mavs precedent of the past twenty years, Nico's inexperience, and the "spoken-for" status of many of the main free agents, I think it's pretty transparently obvious that there's no even minimally acceptable plan B. In the Mavs' final pre-Luka-max opportunity, that's apocalyptically bad.
If I were a betting man, I would bet the farm that 3/90 for Lowry pistol-whips the living turd out of what happens if that doesn't happen. But as a Mavs fan, I hope I'm massively wrong.
(07-30-2021, 12:32 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: [ -> ]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/26...J-McCollum
"Morey remains uninterested in the most absolute of terms in actually trading Ben Simmons, but he's having lots of fun trolling the other GMs in the league."
(07-30-2021, 12:47 PM)VintagePejav2 Wrote: [ -> ]They talk Mavs with ~5 mins left. They don’t know anything about the Mavs’ plans. Marks believes JRich will opt in and the Mavs will have a hard time dumping him.
What about a JRich for Buddy swap? The downside is that it helps the Kings with Holmes.
(07-30-2021, 12:51 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]What about a JRich for Buddy swap? The downside is that it helps the Kings with Holmes.
If we're still prioritizing THJ, there's no need for Buddy.
(07-30-2021, 12:53 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]If we're still prioritizing THJ, there's no need for Buddy.
Hopefully prioritizing THJ has salary limits in the eyes of the new regime.
However, I would do JRich and Powell for Buddy and Bagley! That gives them money to go after Holmes.
(07-30-2021, 12:54 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Hopefully prioritizing THJ has salary limits in the eyes of the new regime.
One can pray!!!
I hate competing head on head with Miami. But This is the big time. The Mavs need to stop thinking of themselves as the Little Mavs. They have one of the 5-10 guys who really matter in the league. Miami is really good, but they don't have Luka.
It is up to Nico, Mark, Jason, etc to sell their vision and to close. It may be an uphill battle, but it is what it is.
(07-30-2021, 12:55 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]However, I would do JRich and Powell for Buddy and Bagley! That gives them money to go after Holmes.
One can pray!!!
I think you'd need to add draft compensation. An SRP or two.
(07-30-2021, 01:01 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]I think you'd need to add draft compensation. An SRP or two.
Maybe, and that's not a deal breaker, but after seeing they would trade the #9 and Bagley for Valancunas, either they didn't value the #9 at all or they valued Val way too much, or they see Bagley as that big a liability to get someone to take on. If its the last, they might need to send compensation our way!
(07-30-2021, 12:06 PM)Hogmelon Wrote: [ -> ]2. How certain are you that Lowry at $90,000,000 for three years is such an earth-shakingly fantabulous deal that the thought of missing out on it is worth all your hand-wringing and über-angst?
(07-30-2021, 12:40 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ]Answering this is like shooting fish in a barrel. Because of the combination of the Mavs precedent of the past twenty years, Nico's inexperience, and the "spoken-for" status of many of the main free agents, I think it's pretty transparently obvious that there's no even minimally acceptable plan B. In the Mavs' final pre-Luka-max opportunity, that's apocalyptically bad.
If I were a betting man, I would bet the farm that 3/90 for Lowry pistol-whips the living turd out of what happens if that doesn't happen. But as a Mavs fan, I hope I'm massively wrong.
"Morey remains uninterested in the most absolute of terms in actually trading Ben Simmons, but he's having lots of fun trolling the other GMs in the league."
So, in your opinion, there are only two possibilities for the future of the Dallas Mavericks:
1. The Mavericks will sign free agent Kyle Lowry; or
2. "Apocalyptically bad" shit will happen.
Wow. That sounds awfully dramatic.
(07-30-2021, 12:55 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]However, I would do JRich and Powell for Buddy and Bagley! That gives them money to go after Holmes.
It helps SAC, but it kinda sucks for the Mavs. You've given your cap room to SAC so they can keep Holmes. I don't get it.
That would be your one big transaction in free agency. It's under the cap. THJ would be gone (replaced by Hield). As much as I hate the DP contract, that part looks bad, since Bagley is probably a much worse player to have. You would be left with a chunk of spendable room about full MLE size (in the 9-12M range), and the rMLE (about 5M), to get what you can with those.
I would hope they can do way better.
(07-30-2021, 01:11 PM)Hogmelon Wrote: [ -> ]So, in your opinion, there are only two possibilities for the future of the Dallas Mavericks:
1. The Mavericks will sign free agent Kyle Lowry; or
2. "Apocalyptically bad" shit will happen.
Wow. That sounds awfully dramatic.
Nico did say after the draft yesterday that they have about 15 different scenarios and that number will probably double in the coming days. As far as Lowry is concerned, I don't really like the idea but seeing as THJ and Lowry have the same agent, so I think we'll know prior to the start of free agency if Lowry is a realistic option or not.
We were strongly linked to John Collins (probably because we tried to trade for him at the deadline), but the Lowry stuff kind of feels like all the Kemba buzz.
I don't think things can get much worse than what we've seen of late with Wright, Burke and Richardson.
(07-30-2021, 01:16 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]It helps SAC, but it kinda sucks for the Mavs. You've given your cap room to SAC so they can keep Holmes. I don't get it.
That would be your one big transaction in free agency. It's under the cap. THJ would be gone (replaced by Hield). As much as I hate the DP contract, that part looks bad, since Bagley is probably a much worse player to have. You would be left with a chunk of spendable room about full MLE size (in the 9-12M range), and the rMLE (about 5M), to get what you can with those.
I would hope they can do way better.
Ya, after I looked at the length of Hield's contract I was gonna edit that post, but it was up too long at that point. Three more years of Hield on that bad contract is not worth the trade, which says something about the comparable player in THJ.
(07-30-2021, 01:19 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]. As far as Lowry is concerned, I don't really like the idea but seeing as THJ and Lowry have the same agent, so I think we'll know prior to the start of free agency if Lowry is a realistic option or not.
Just a question and would like to hear other answers. What do you think gives you the best chance of signing Lowry?
a) Working with his agent to secure Lowry and Hardaway together on the Mavs
b) Working to sign Lowry with the intention of pairing him back up with his buddy Derozan
Either situation would be really tight and the Mavs would need to work some magic. Hardaway may be the better fit due to his outside scoring, but Derozan is the better player but the fit may not be as perfect.
Curious, which option would be more appealing to Lowry. Personally night re-signing Hardaway may be something the agent really dislikes, but it may put you in the lead for Lowry if you also brought his buddy here.
(07-30-2021, 01:04 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe, and that's not a deal breaker, but after seeing they would trade the #9 and Bagley for Valancunas, either they didn't value the #9 at all or they valued Val way too much, or they see Bagley as that big a liability to get someone to take on. If its the last, they might need to send compensation our way!
I think that Sac-Mem alleged proposal makes no sense, there must be other pieces involved that were not mentioned. If you are Memphis and you have Sac offer of Bagley (9 mil) and #9 for Valanciunas and #17, do you really prefer 2 years of Adams and Bledsoe at 35 mil and #10? I am certain that offer was not on the table.
(07-30-2021, 01:26 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Just a question and would like to hear other answers. What do you think gives you the best chance of signing Lowry?
a) Working with his agent to secure Lowry and Hardaway together on the Mavs
b) Working to sign Lowry with the intention of pairing him back up with his buddy Derozan
Either situation would be really tight and the Mavs would need to work some magic. Hardaway may be the better fit due to his outside scoring, but Derozan is the better player but the fit may not be as perfect.
Curious, which option would be more appealing to Lowry. Personally night re-signing Hardaway may be something the agent really dislikes, but it may put you in the lead for Lowry if you also brought his buddy here.
I was thinking the same. In order to get Lowry, would you need to look at DR instead of ThJ. Only problem is the agent connection. You are screwing one of his clients while making the other one happy by bringing his buddy along.