(08-06-2021, 06:01 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]I like the idea, the only problem is Dipo already signed a 1-year deal with Miami.
Well, that is a bit of an issue with regard to the specific name. Hopefully the rest of the post further developed some ideas around the use of that space.
(08-06-2021, 02:44 AM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Could we use the TPE for LM via a S&T with Chicago?
The issue with LM is Chicago has already shown a willingness to pay him $9mm with the QO. They are pretty thin in the front court with Tony Bradley the only real center behind Vuc. Patrick Williams plays the 3 and the 4. If you assume he's the full time four and the three is covered by DeRozan/Brown, then without LM, they have a hole at backup PF also. So, there is a reason to bring him back and they are far enough below the tax that they can offer something in the mid teens.
All that to say, Dallas probably can't just absorb him into the TPE. It would probably be under the cap and we'd have to send back some players. It isn't hard to imagine Chicago being fine with WCS. But, filling in some of their need at backup PF starts to get a bit painful as we only have two of those and both are fan favorites.
(08-06-2021, 05:28 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]From the chart Clutch posted, We have $5.38mm in space if we simply move Sterling into the R-MLE. That amount of space is enough to make Powell plus Burke a legal trade (note that the $5mm trade spread doesn't get you there). This is a significant wrinkle in the Dragic conversation.
Moses is non-guaranteed (owed $500k if cut), so add $1.2mm to get to $6.58mm. You can pair that space with anyone in a trade. It also happens to be more than the TP-MLE
WCS is easily movable for air and that gets you to $9.5mm... similar to the MLE. I'm going to leave Burke out of this to make a point, as I'm not sure he has positive value. Cutting Brown doesn't help because you've gone under 12 spots with WCS traded, Moses cut and Sterling waiting to sign the R-MLE.
$9.5mm is almost the same as the MLE (I'm going to guess that is why Sterling's contract is $1.8mm under the R-MLE). But, MLE deals and a S&T into the TPE has restrictions as to length of contract. If you are trying to get someone for what THEY consider an under market deal (I'm thinking LM, but maybe Oladipo), you can't have team control for 3 years. Yes, only one year has to be guaranteed on the MLE and S&T's, but that is still a three year deal in terms of the team being in control. So, Dallas has seemingly structured things to have multiple ways to get to one more guy.
This is super interesting. Thanks for this!
(08-06-2021, 05:28 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]From the chart Clutch posted, We have $5.38mm in space if we simply move Sterling into the R-MLE. That amount of space is enough to make Powell plus Burke a legal trade (note that the $5mm trade spread doesn't get you there). This is a significant wrinkle in the Dragic conversation.
Moses is non-guaranteed (owed $500k if cut), so add $1.2mm to get to $6.58mm. You can pair that space with anyone in a trade. It also happens to be more than the TP-MLE
WCS is easily movable for air and that gets you to $9.5mm... similar to the MLE. I'm going to leave Burke out of this to make a point, as I'm not sure he has positive value. Cutting Brown doesn't help because you've gone under 12 spots with WCS traded, Moses cut and Sterling waiting to sign the R-MLE.
$9.5mm is almost the same as the MLE (I'm going to guess that is why Sterling's contract is $1.8mm under the R-MLE). But, MLE deals and a S&T into the TPE has restrictions as to length of contract. If you are trying to get someone for what THEY consider an under market deal (I'm thinking LM, but maybe Oladipo), you can't have team control for 3 years. Yes, only one year has to be guaranteed on the MLE and S&T's, but that is still a three year deal in terms of the team being in control. So, Dallas has seemingly structured things to have multiple ways to get to one more guy. I don't think this is about LM as he has QO from Chicago for $9mm. I think this may be about Dipo. You can sign him to a one year deal using space (or a two in order to get EB rights, but those don't do much good if he pans out). You play Green developmental minutes until Dipo is ready and then he slots as the bench scorer in a lineup with Powell/Maxi/Dipo/Sterling/Brunson. Or, if he's really good, he can move either Bullock or THJ to the bench and Dipo can start.
KP/Powell/Boban/Moses
DFS/Maxi
THJ/Dipo/Green
Bullock/Sterling/Burke
Luka/Brunson/Terry
Looking at the lineup above, I wonder if Paul Millsap would be a intriguing stop gap solution. Millsap has been a favorite of mine for the past few offseasons as someone who interests me. Maybe he is a little too old now and would need to think more if I would prefer the younger WCS to him.
My hope is we would find someway to get Lauri and Dragic. Getting one may be a long shot, much less two.
As others have mentioned, I am really confused that we went into this offseason with very little ball creators and limited PF types and someway may be starting the next year even thinner at both spots. That is hard to accomplish. I can't believe that was the goal.
Thought Oladipo signed with the Heat?
(08-06-2021, 08:15 AM)TXBamanut Wrote: [ -> ]Thought Oladipo signed with the Heat?
Yes. See last post of page 169 and first post of page 170.
(08-06-2021, 07:54 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]This is super interesting. Thanks for this!
Trying to find a good use for this information...
Powell plus Terry plus space of $5.38mm is a fit for Rozier. It fits by $70,000 which gives a little wiggle room for minor errors in the "cheat sheet" you and Clutch posted (thanks for enlarging it as it was hard to read otherwise). There has to be a reason Sterling was signed to such a specific number.
Charlotte isn't bringing Rozier back a year from now. They have plenty of guards between Ball, Bouknight, Graham and now Oubre. Rozier fits fairly well with what we need and there is a path to retaining him if Brunson were to leave.
(08-06-2021, 05:28 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]From the chart Clutch posted, We have $5.38mm in space if we simply move Sterling into the R-MLE. That amount of space is enough to make Powell plus Burke a legal trade (note that the $5mm trade spread doesn't get you there). This is a significant wrinkle in the Dragic conversation.
Moses is non-guaranteed (owed $500k if cut), so add $1.2mm to get to $6.58mm. You can pair that space with anyone in a trade. It also happens to be more than the TP-MLE
WCS is easily movable for air and that gets you to $9.5mm... similar to the MLE. I'm going to leave Burke out of this to make a point, as I'm not sure he has positive value. Cutting Brown doesn't help because you've gone under 12 spots with WCS traded, Moses cut and Sterling waiting to sign the R-MLE.
$9.5mm is almost the same as the MLE (I'm going to guess that is why Sterling's contract is $1.8mm under the R-MLE). But, MLE deals and a S&T into the TPE has restrictions as to length of contract. If you are trying to get someone for what THEY consider an under market deal (I'm thinking LM, but maybe Oladipo), you can't have team control for 3 years. Yes, only one year has to be guaranteed on the MLE and S&T's, but that is still a three year deal in terms of the team being in control. So, Dallas has seemingly structured things to have multiple ways to get to one more guy. I don't think this is about LM as he has QO from Chicago for $9mm. I think this may be about Dipo. You can sign him to a one year deal using space (or a two in order to get EB rights, but those don't do much good if he pans out). You play Green developmental minutes until Dipo is ready and then he slots as the bench scorer in a lineup with Powell/Maxi/Dipo/Sterling/Brunson. Or, if he's really good, he can move either Bullock or THJ to the bench and Dipo can start.
KP/Powell/Boban/Moses
DFS/Maxi
THJ/Dipo/Green
Bullock/Sterling/Burke
Luka/Brunson/Terry
This is interesting. Did not think about the possibility of still operating under the cap. The name I could see this relating to is Reggie Jackson.
(08-06-2021, 08:33 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Trying to find a good use for this information...
Powell plus Terry plus space of $5.38mm is a fit for Rozier. It fits by $70,000 which gives a little wiggle room for minor errors in the "cheat sheet" you and Clutch posted (thanks for enlarging it as it was hard to read otherwise). There has to be a reason Sterling was signed to such a specific number.
Charlotte isn't bringing Rozier back a year from now. They have plenty of guards between Ball, Bouknight, Graham and now Oubre. Rozier fits fairly well with what we need and there is a path to retaining him if Brunson were to leave.
Rozier is another good name, I think Coby White is my preferred name, but Rozier brings more defense which is a seeming continued focus on this Nico lead FO. White is getting squeezed with Chi’s new toys!
Oh, another tid-bit, that defense thing with Nico? I think that is another reason he is playing hardball with Tor. Dragic doesn’t fit the 2-way player mold, so Nico can take him if the price is right and $19M isn’t that.
(08-06-2021, 08:33 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]There has to be a reason Sterling was signed to such a specific number.
I always thought it was a little strange that Sterling's contract was not for the full BAE amount if that's the slot he's destined for. But if you think of his $3mm as about half the rMLE it maybe makes a little more sense. That could lend credence to the idea that the cap space is being used elsewhere and one more small piece can get the other half of the rMLE after that.
BTW, I wonder if they might be saving a little space for one of their multi-year minimum offers if one of the undrafted guys blows them away in camp.
(08-06-2021, 08:33 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Charlotte isn't bringing Rozier back a year from now. They have plenty of guards between Ball, Bouknight, Graham and now Oubre.
Graham is no longer with Charlotte. I am pretty sure they want to keep Rozier-Ball as their starting PG-SG duo.
(08-06-2021, 09:02 AM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]The name I could see this relating to is Reggie Jackson.
Clippers can offer Reggie the MLE level salary (early bird). I don't think anyone can "steal" him without offering significantly more.
(08-06-2021, 11:06 AM)Okstate819 Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/washedmavsblog/statu...40133?s=21
He said, except for a Dragic move. He said Dallas believes Dragic will be bought out. He said he expects Goran to be bought out and the Mavs are at the top of his list. He said the trade noise has been quiet.
He said the Mavs were exploring a number of sign-and-trades all week. He has a story coming on Monday that will detail that and what other possible moves they could make later this offseason.
(08-06-2021, 11:13 AM)VintagePejav2 Wrote: [ -> ]He said the Mavs were exploring a number of sign-and-trades all week. He has a story coming on Monday that will detail that and what other possible moves they could make later this offseason.
So if we "translate" - no one wants our "crap". I might have put it roughly, but sadly it is truth
(08-06-2021, 11:15 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]So if we "translate"...
To use the terminology of the day, that is a socially located translation
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