(08-02-2021, 09:05 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with @"Mavs2021" . It´s the same story every single year. High expectations all summer long. Fueled by rumors and statements from the owner or GM. And suddenly all of that isn´t important anymore. No expectations. Just going along with whatever the front office does.
Even bigger problem. A few month later they start to complain about the offseason. Resulting in high expectations for the next offseason. Rinse and repeat since 2011. Yours truly MFFL.
If we are done in free agency and even if we get Dragic, this is the 3rd tiring spinning year in a row. It's part of the reason I advocate for guys like THT or Holmes and not the big names. Dallas just isn't a free agent destination.
I'm shocked that DeRozan hasn't signed anywhere yet.
The Mavs' big need was a secondary playmaker so we're still TBD there. It seems like Dragic is the plan, I guess we'll see if Nico can get it done. A lot of moving pieces.
(08-02-2021, 09:13 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]I'm shocked that DeRozan hasn't signed anywhere yet.
I think SnT are being discussed. For all remaining top FA
i think the mavs must be delusional and thing that we almost beat the team that would have won the west if not for injury to their best player.
An insane jump in mental gymnastics to think you are remotely close to contending.
Clearly the plan was to run it back and make small changes because we were so close!
Mavs will be a 1st round exit near year unless KP suddenly becomes a star under Kidd.
It's a big bet to suggest Rick was the problem.
If Powell, WCS and/or Burke is all we can offer for Dragic, Toronto will not go for that.
I am not upset with missing out on Dragic, but I will be upset if we are unable to get a good ball creator or a physical/rebounder type. Both of those will keep us from being a serious contender imo. Even with the greatness of Luka and if KP performs better this year.
I am scared of counting on KP and Maxi in the front court. Again, we are left with no one who worries anyone who can score on their own if KP is out. And this has been a weak part of KP's game anyway.
THT was pointless ... not only was he restricted (requiring you to tie up your spending for about a week while everyone else does deals elsewhere), but also an Arenas free agent, which is doubly bad as it messes with your ability to offer, but is easier to match. In theory, you are messing with the Lakers with the offer, but in reality, it's you getting screwed around.
Holmes is different, however. On that one, I don't get it, but my guess is that he himself made it difficult with demands, and there's no time for such crap with players getting taken off the board if you aren't ready to deal right away.
(08-02-2021, 09:13 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]I'm shocked that DeRozan hasn't signed anywhere yet.
DDR can score but he can't play off-ball and can't defend anyone. I think he got much lower offers than he expected and now he's trying to decide which contending team to join for cheap.
(08-02-2021, 09:06 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]18.5m per is too much in my view with his offensive inconsistencies and his lack of defense. Normal Powell signed for 18m per. Have to hope his contract is structured creatively. Not holding my breath.
I look at things differently. He may not even be on this team when he hits 18mill per. He's 16.5 mill year 1, 17 mill year 2 and doesn't get to 18 mill until year 3.
The 16 figure is what matters to me, because that is what determines what we can resign this year. Therest of the time, we'll be over the cap anyway.
(08-02-2021, 09:17 PM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]DDR can score but he can't play off-ball and can't defend anyone. I think he got much lower offers than he expected and now he's trying to decide which contending team to join for cheap.
Fair. He's aging as well. I suppose the fact he can't/won't hit a 3 really limits his market value.
If he was at least average (~35%) from 3, there's no doubt in my mind he'd have gotten the max from someone this offseason.
(08-02-2021, 09:14 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: [ -> ]It's a big bet to suggest Rick was the problem.
Sure feels like the Mavs are truly banking on this. The press conference was FULL of allusions to the fact that RC was the problem (I called it "scapegoating").... we will see soon enough if that is right. They clearly aren't acting like the problem was the roster.
(08-02-2021, 09:16 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]physical/rebounder
Moses Brown ranked 2nd in OREB% last season. Maybe he can develop into that kind of player. Certainly needs to add some muscle but he is the biggest and most athletic big the Mavs had under contract since the Haywood/Chandler days.
(08-02-2021, 09:17 PM)TXBamanut Wrote: [ -> ]I look at things differently. He may not even be on this team when he hits 18mill per. He's 16.5 mill year 1, 17 mill year 2 and doesn't get to 18 mill until year 3.
The 16 figure is what matters to me, because that is what determines what we can resign this year. Therest of the time, we'll be over the cap anyway.
We are probably operating over the cap this year, so that fist number does not matter. In fact it makes more sense for the contract to be descending so that he has a chance of becoming an asset.
(08-02-2021, 09:17 PM)TXBamanut Wrote: [ -> ]I look at things differently. He may not even be on this team when he hits 18mill per. He's 16.5 mill year 1, 17 mill year 2 and doesn't get to 18 mill until year 3.
The 16 figure is what matters to me, because that is what determines what we can resign this year. Therest of the time, we'll be over the cap anyway.
From the trade angel, I just don't see his contract returning a positive asset.
(08-02-2021, 09:23 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]Moses Brown ranked 2nd in OREB% last season. Maybe he can develop into that kind of player. Certainly needs to add some muscle but he is the biggest and most athletic big the Mavs had under contract since the Haywood/Chandler days.
I think Moses is super interesting but I'm not sure he'll get any burn.
(08-02-2021, 09:23 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]Moses Brown ranked 2nd in OREB% last season. Maybe he can develop into that kind of player. Certainly needs to add some muscle but he is the biggest and most athletic big the Mavs had under contract since the Haywood/Chandler days.
Yeah I am not counting on him yet. I would love to see him in Summer league. I don't want to believe anything I saw on that OKC team last year. I think they did it with a lot of mirrors. I am excited to get a look at him though.
I think my favorite PF physical guy is Larry Nance jr. Although I don't think you can get him for the TPE. It appears other teams have had room but he has not been moved yet.
I can't think of a creator that I like yet. If Dragic doesn't happen, I have trouble seeing if Powell brings anything back really helpful. Maybe if we moved Maxi?
(08-02-2021, 09:22 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Sure feels like the Mavs are truly banking on this. The press conference was FULL of allusions to the fact that RC was the problem (I called it "scapegoating").... we will see soon enough if that is right. They clearly aren't acting like the problem was the roster.
I'm going to say this and I've said it when Rick was here. His inconsistent rotations and herky jerky style of management was always a complaint with players over the whole time. He worked well as a tactician, but people arent emotionless widgets and increasingly so as players get more power to move from situations that they dont feel they fit well. It's hard to develop players that you get -- Maxi, DFS, JJB and JB are the exceptions, not the rule.
Nick Saban used to be totally old school and played upper classmen, but he changed as more players started leaving early and such, so he plays a lot of young players and gets them ready. He knew they wouldnt come if they didnt have a chance to play before they were juniors. Point being, he had to res the terrain and roll with the changes in the personnel landscape to stay sucessful. At times, I felt, even though he tried, Rick struggled here.
(08-02-2021, 09:14 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: [ -> ]i think the mavs must be delusional and thing that we almost beat the team that would have won the west if not for injury to their best player.
An insane jump in mental gymnastics to think you are remotely close to contending.
Clearly the plan was to run it back and make small changes because we were so close!
Mavs will be a 1st round exit near year unless KP suddenly becomes a star under Kidd.
It's a big bet to suggest Rick was the problem.
I don't think that's it. The Mavs were willing to pay $90 million to Lowry and still want Dragic, so clearly they want to improve there.
Fundamentally, the Mavs are still screwed by the KP trade. First because KP has done nothing close to living up to his contract, and second because we have no picks thanks to him.
Also, if we struck out on our top targets, I was really hopeful we would roll the dice with a youngster like Malik Monk. It may not have been a plug and play type of move but one that could have proved to be a big plus if you picked right.