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(08-27-2020, 04:43 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Dragic said "Balkan" when he posted this.


Balkan is a name of the region, mostly covered by ex Yugoslavia countries. Not that it is important, just as an interesting fact:
- Bobi and Jokič are Serbs
- Luka, born in Slovenia, has Serbian father and Slovenian mother
- Dragic, born in Slovenia, has Serbian father and Croatian mother
- Vujacic, born in Switzerland, has Montenegro father and Serbian mother. His father was a basketball player and he mainly played abroad
- Cancar, born in Slovenia. I am not sure where his parents are from, but they are not from Slovenia. My guess is Serbia
(08-27-2020, 04:50 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-27-2020, 04:43 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Dragic said "Balkan" when he posted this.


Balkan is a name of the region, mostly covered by ex Yugoslavia countries. Not that it is important, just as an interesting fact:
- Bobi and Jokič are Serbs
- Luka, born in Slovenia, has Serbian father and Slovenian mother
- Dragic, born in Slovenia, has Serbian father and Croatian mother
- Vujacic, born in Switzerland, has Montenegro father and Serbian mother. His father was a basketball player and he mainly played abroad
- Cancar, born in Slovenia. I am not sure where his parents are from, but they are not from Slovenia. My guess is Serbia

https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/goran-dragic-great-group-picture-balkan-nba-stars-bubble/562239


I guess Yugoslavian kind of dates me as old school.  The article also mentions Nurkic and Zubac as well.
(08-27-2020, 05:17 PM)chaparral Wrote: [ -> ]I guess Yugoslavian kind of dates me as old school.


Yugoslavia was a former country, no longer existing. Balkans is the region covering Yugoslavia, but also most of Greece, Bulgaria, Romania and Albania. However, a slang Slovenian word for other parts of ex Yugoslavia (Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Macedonia) is Balkan. So Dragic basically meant that picture covers guys from ex Yugoslavia.
So guys, let me try to lighten up the mood with some ethnic jokes from ex Yugoslavia. I am sure other potential ex Yugoslavs here will not be offended. The country was a union of 6 main nations (Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia and Montenegro) and lots of other minorities, which are separate countries mostly since 1990. Each of the main nations have some good qualities and some bad ones. Slovenians (I am also Slovenian, born in Yugoslavia) are considered as hardworking but sort of "pussies". Bosnians know how to fix everything, but they are considered stupid (in a having bad grades in school sense - they are "street smart" though). Croatians (more exactly Hercegovci, part of Croatia and Bosnia) get in fights all the time, Serbs are proud to an extent that it hurts them and Montenegroes are lazy on legendary levels. There are endless jokes about those nations based on the national characteristics. Well, not a lot of jokes about Slovenians, because we are also a bit boring besides being pussies Smile 

Our languages are very similar, with Slovenian being slightly different. Serbs were of course too proud to speak it, Bosnians too stupid to learn it and Montenegroes too lazy. So there was no choice but hardworking Slovenian pussies to speak Serbo-Croatian so that everybody understood eachother. 

There was once a Montenegro guy, let's call him Jovan, sitting on a bench and a snail was slowly passing by. Jovan was watching him, and the snail really took his time, passing by in some two hours. Jovan stared at emtpy space for another half an hour and then slowly said - wow, he flew by as a bullet. Jovan once worked in Slovenia and stole a spoon and brought it home to Montenegro with him. Father told him to immediately take it back, because it is a shovel seed. 

There was once a legendary 100 m race, with participants from Croatia (Hercegovina), Bosnia and Montenegro. Unfortunatelly there was no winner, because the Croat got in a fight with audience, Montenegro guy decided 50 meters is enough and Bosnian got lost.

Wifes of Slovenian, Bosnian and Montenegro husbands are discussing where do they hide money, so their husbands don't find it and use it for booze (one thing we have in common, we are all heavy drinkers). Montenegro wife naturally hides money under the shovel. Bosnian wife hides money in a book, no way he would look there. Slovenian wife puts it on a table and says - take it if you dare (of course we don't).
(08-27-2020, 06:41 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]So guys, let me try to lighten up the mood with some ethnic jokes from ex Yugoslavia. I am sure other potential ex Yugoslavs here will not be offended. The country was a union of 6 main nations (Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia and Montenegro) and lots of other minorities, which are separate countries mostly since 1990. Each of the main nations have some good qualities and some bad ones. Slovenians (I am also Slovenian, born in Yugoslavia) are considered as hardworking but sort of "pussies". Bosnians know how to fix everything, but they are considered stupid (in a having bad grades in school sense - they are "street smart" though). Croatians (more exactly Hercegovci, part of Croatia and Bosnia) get in fights all the time, Serbs are proud to an extent that it hurts them and Montenegroes are lazy on legendary levels. There are endless jokes about those nations based on the national characteristics. Well, not a lot of jokes about Slovenians, because we are also a bit boring besides being pussies Smile 

Our languages are very similar, with Slovenian being slightly different. Serbs were of course too proud to speak it, Bosnians too stupid to learn it and Montenegroes too lazy. So there was no choice but hardworking Slovenian pussies to speak Serbo-Croatian so that everybody understood eachother. 

There was once a Montenegro guy, let's call him Jovan, sitting on a bench and a snail was slowly passing by. Jovan was watching him, and the snail really took his time, passing by in some two hours. Jovan stared at emtpy space for another half an hour and then slowly said - wow, he flew by as a bullet. Jovan once worked in Slovenia and stole a spoon and brought it home to Montenegro with him. Father told him to immediately take it back, because it is a shovel seed. 

There was once a legendary 100 m race, with participants from Croatia (Hercegovina), Bosnia and Montenegro. Unfortunatelly there was no winner, because the Croat got in a fight with audience, Montenegro guy decided 50 meters is enough and Bosnian got lost.

Wifes of Slovenian, Bosnian and Montenegro husbands are discussing where do they hide money, so their husbands don't find it and use it for booze (one thing we have in common, we are all heavy drinkers). Montenegro wife naturally hides money under the shovel. Bosnian wife hides money in a book, no way he would look there. Slovenian wife puts it on a table and says - take it if you dare (of course we don't).

I just wanted to say I really enjoyed these jokes. I am in no way from eastern Europe (father and mother are south-African, I'm born in America), but seeing all these regional jokes really made me laugh very hard even though I have no exposure to all of the cultures haha! Thanks for sharing them.
Lol Good stuff Omahen. 

Honest question, is there still tension between Serbians and Bosnians? Or is that all in the past.
(08-27-2020, 10:51 PM)FunkBoreland Wrote: [ -> ]Honest question, is there still tension between Serbians and Bosnians? Or is that all in the past.


Difficult question. I think normal people have no problems. For example in sports, things got back to normal and there is a common ex Yugoslavia basketball league, which means Serb teams playing games with Bosnian teams in Bosnia on a regular basis and the other way around and people are not killing each other in the stands. Serbian players playing for Bosnian teams is also regular. But you know, there are big differences - Bosnians are mostly muslims, Serbs mostly Christian and it is not that difficult to bring back the old hate. Even more so between Croats and Serbs.
I too want to say I enjoyed this discussion mostly because it is information I did not know that to Maverick fans has now become more important and relevant. Of course, Maverick history in European basketball, especially in the Balkans is impacted tremendously by our own Don and Donnie Nelson's involvement for many, many years: long before Dirk came here. Their very positive involvement is about 95% of why Dirk and Luka and others are here. 

So yes, this is interesting, Thank you.
(08-28-2020, 12:06 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-27-2020, 10:51 PM)FunkBoreland Wrote: [ -> ]Honest question, is there still tension between Serbians and Bosnians? Or is that all in the past.


Difficult question. I think normal people have no problems. For example in sports, things got back to normal and there is a common ex Yugoslavia basketball league, which means Serb teams playing games with Bosnian teams in Bosnia on a regular basis and the other way around and people are not killing each other in the stands. Serbian players playing for Bosnian teams is also regular. But you know, there are big differences - Bosnians are mostly muslims, Serbs mostly Christian and it is not that difficult to bring back the old hate. Even more so between Croats and Serbs.

Thank you so much for your answer.
I have come across a Serbian from my school days, and after seeing a Bosnian war movie (I think it was call No Man's Land) I accidentally call him Bosnian. He got very mad at me about it, I quickly apologize and he wasn't holding grudges afterwards. The feeling was the same when I met a Palestinian and mention Israel, an abrupt response of anger and hatefulness of there occupation. 

When I saw Luka retweet Jusuf Nurkic about "We did it" to his grandma, I thought, WAIT A MINUTE! Isn't Nurkic Bosnian? And Luka supports Nurkic!? I thought, the tension must not be there at all, I'm assuming especially to younger generations.

"Even more so between Croats and Serbs"
Are you saying that tension is more so with Croats and Serbs? All of this is making me want to learn history and culture of the Balkan region.

I agree @"Reunion Mav" the discussion on here is pretty awesome.
(08-28-2020, 11:28 AM)FunkBoreland Wrote: [ -> ]When I saw Luka retweet Jusuf Nurkic about "We did it" to his grandma, I thought, WAIT A MINUTE! Isn't Nurkic Bosnian? And Luka supports Nurkic!? I thought, the tension must not be there at all, I'm assuming especially to younger generations.

There is no tension with majority of people within Yugoslavia, even during the war period, as well as now. In former Yugoslavia most people lived well together, regardless of religion differences. Almost every city had a mosque, orthodox church, and chatolic church etc. religion was accepted and you could be whoever you wanted to be.  Its the same people, with same language and traditions, way of life etc, humor, but with different religion. Languages are the same with regional differences or dialetcs, as in all other countries in the world. This is why Luka can speak with a Bosnian (Nurkic) or Serbian (Jokic) and Montengran or a Croat equally well, its same language.

During 90s there was a lot of tension during the war as a minority of wrong people came into power and starting to spread the hate. This tension spread to many other people, even those that never before had any tension  (or that has today). It is politics and the intention of that political act and it worked as intended, it split the country. 

Its mostly love tough between the people there. When Luka plays, most of the people that composed Yugoslavia are cheering for him, you can bet on that, he is loved throughout all the republics, there is a high connection between these people. You will find some extremist in each of the other countries that are haters, but mostly people are cheering for the other. Same when Djokovic playing tennis etc. Same with Music for instance, take every country as example there and what they listen to is the artists from the other yugo countries equally as much as from their own musicians. 

It is a highly complex region, and will always be like this unfortunately and fortunately. I think Vlade said it nicely in his HOF speech with: "The people of the Balkans are like a dysfunctional family. We may fight and argue, but in the end we are family." With balkans Vlade means only Yugoslavian countries.

Me myself I am from Bosnia (so im quiet stupid and cant read a book). And I cheer for everyone equally that is from the former Yugoslavia, regardless of which republic they are from.

There its mostly love, and not hate, and this is also reflected what you see in the NBA players. Most of them have parents and family members coming from different parts of Yugoslavia. It would equal to suddenly splitting France in different regions, or Spain or Germany. Chance of a German having parents from different parts of Germany is very high.  Or perhaps Switzerland would best example as is formed of 3 regions. This is the reason why Luka enjoys the company of these people you see on the image. And this also explains why all (most) their names end with "", they are from what used to be the same country. 
(08-28-2020, 10:40 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/statu...0420030467
Stay classy San Diego
(08-28-2020, 10:40 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/statu...0420030467

Cuban about to break the cap rules on keeping Luka. Love to see it. Halleluka!

(08-28-2020, 03:12 PM)FunkBoreland Wrote: [ -> ][Image: Egg2Sf2U4AY8elQ?format=jpg&name=large]
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Now what sticks out to me the most from this pic is that Luka sat next to Jokic in the last pic and in this one. 

A little bit of recruitment going on?
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(08-29-2020, 12:30 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Now what sticks out to me the most from this pic is that Luka sat next to Jokic in the last pic and in this one. 


I would LOVE Jokic and Luka on the same team. Would be so great!