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(02-23-2022, 01:01 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]I’ve seen 1 person here point to what you are saying, and even that person contradicts what Luka himself says so I myself can’t take that reply all that seriously. Blush

Many people agree on that the diet thing is completely overblown. Diet is however valid and has a smaller impact as also stated by Luka, I dont think anyone denies this. But injuries and COVID and no offseason is the real deal that made Lukas legs look slightly tired early in season, and also consistent with him not grasping for air early in season meaning he was in top shape all along but legs being tired due to no rest. That is all over now with the rest he got during injury and COVID break. After that break he immediately looked faster and his numbers increased sharply. That alone is a strong proof of that injury/COVID and no offseason was the major deal and diet being a smaller one. Just listen also to Dreymond Greens interview, that is also what majority will agree on that knows how important the rest in offseason is. Luka got his rest first during his injury break and COVID.
(02-23-2022, 01:44 AM)burekemde Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not arguing that what you refer to (regarding diet) - this has most likely has been there to a smaller degree and that is also what Luka acknowledged. I argue rather instead that the significance of the diet has been completely overblown in media and by some fans, even to the extreme point where Luka was called fat. Instead, the main factors for Lukas numbers increasing during year has been the injuries and the tired legs from Olympics and not having an offseason. Much smaller effect is the diet, yes, which was acknowledged. The former however (injuries and COVID and tired legs from Olympics) were misused by certain people in order to incorrectly reinforce the effect of the latter (diet).

Few fans have suggested a link between the two, thus bad diet maybe causing the ankle injury etc., which can't be ruled out, but also far from can be proven, and this is not likely at all. The most likely effect is that the tired legs from Olympics has caused Luka to take it easy in beginning of the season, and work him self up when he got some rest. This is completely normal if you ask me. The key is that Luka keeps himself fresh for playoffs and late season, where momentum carries over to the playoff basketball. Luka is doing all the right things.
Luka came into the season overweight and out of shape, bottom line. If he has less energy while already being overweight and out of shape, he quickly works himself over to a degree that causes injury. If he heals slower, he doesn’t get over the injury as fast. If he plays with less energy while injured and overweight and out of shape, he keeps injuring himself. 

The bottom line is, Luka does not agree with you, at least not to the degree you’re arguing. He doesn’t say he was injured so he can’t control that pain while playing, which if what you are saying is true, he had every right to reflect and say. That’s it in a nutshell.

Hopefully he has also come to the conclusion that he should not play while seriously injured and give his body the time it needs to heal properly as well. That is yet to be seen. With the proper diet, that time away will be less time now.
(02-23-2022, 03:39 AM)burekemde Wrote: [ -> ]Many people agree on that the diet thing is completely overblown. Diet is however valid and has a smaller impact as also stated by Luka, I dont think anyone denies this. But injuries and COVID and no offseason is the real deal that made Lukas legs look slightly tired early in season, and also consistent with him not grasping for air early in season meaning he was in top shape all along but legs being tired due to no rest. That is all over now with the rest he got during injury and COVID break. After that break he immediately looked faster and his numbers increased sharply. That alone is a strong proof of that injury/COVID and no offseason was the major deal and diet being a smaller one. Just listen also to Dreymond Greens interview, that is also what majority will agree on that knows how important the rest in offseason is. Luka got his rest first during his injury break and COVID.
I stand corrected, I’ve seen 2 people here now talking about it. Both people who are not Luka (or are you???) and both arguing against Luka’s own words of reflection. Fight that good fight guys!
(02-23-2022, 06:39 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]I stand corrected, I’ve seen 2 people here now talking about it. Both people who are not Luka (or are you???) and both arguing against Luka’s own words of reflection. Fight that good fight guys!

Nobody here argues against Lukas words. The diet has some effect. This is however a minor impact on Lukas early season numbers compared to ankle injuries, COVID and no offseason. Luka has stated this himself the effect of these things earlier in the season that he was bothered with injuries, COVID and the effect on him due to not having an offseason. So I am just reflecting what Luka has said and what is the fact. Again it is fully natural for a young player not having an offseason of rest to gain more fresh legs and stats later int he season and have tired legs in the begnning of the season. This is exactly what we see. As Lukas stats and lack of limping sharply increased after the break when injury was over, this clearly demonstrates that this was the major issue early in the season for Luka.

Another next sharp increase in production came after KP left the team. This seems a more mental and tactical aspect related to the team.

A physical barrier was clearly the one of injury and after the injury was over and Luka had the necessary break, Luka's numbers drastically and sharply increased.
Just wondering how many minutes/hours they cut out of Lukas ASG trashing...  Big Grin

https://twitter.com/dallasmavs/status/1496246924705517576?s=20&t=9fLN9-s9rS2q7ZsNXF7-Ww

And guys, yes its game pause, that doesn't mean Cuban is more trustworthy...

When his statement starts with "I think..." about things we all know he knows 200% is wise to question every word he put out. And about his team and his players we all know as a control freak he knows everything. And the right question would probably be what the hell he wants to sell us this time...
(02-23-2022, 08:17 AM)LukTheShadow Wrote: [ -> ]Just wondering how many minutes/hours they cut out of Lukas ASG trashing...  Big Grin


I love watching Luka speak while mic'd up. He's normally so bashful and short spoken with the media, mostly due to English being his 4th(!!!) language. I don't blame him either because how many times can you answer "can you give me your thoughts on the game" before you want to pull your hair out? 

When he's on the court and with the guys we really see Luka's fun loving personality and how funny he truly is.
“Chicken and rice and vegetables is the most popular [with me] because I don’t eat a lot of seafood,” Doncic said. “Mostly just eating healthier. … That was the key to be here.”

Quote from a recent article (posted 5 days ago).

Luka doesn’t agree with you in the key to getting here.

https://clutchpoints.com/mavs-news-luka-...cerns/amp/
(02-23-2022, 03:17 AM)Mapka Wrote: [ -> ]He was a teenager entering the league and used to eat whatever with now effect on his shape. This days are over now and he has adepted
Which can be said for a LOT of us. Some of us "adapted" better than others though.  Rolleyes


IF I had led my home country's team to the Olympics, a country with 2/3 less population than DFW btw, and to the medal rounds, then signed a Super Max extension, I would probably have had trouble getting physically and mentally turned around in the 6 weeks between the Olympics and training camp. Add in the focused effort to increase KP's performance/value and I'm betting Luka's self-motivating for the first half of the season was tough. The silver lining to the injury/Covid games missed is that he was able to find himself again and re-ignite the ability to have fun while playing at a stratospheric level.
(02-23-2022, 08:35 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1496645738301997070

He is. Unfortunately it took him about 3 months to get to that level. Kinda feels like he’s learned his lesson and will come into the season in shape from now on, well here’s to hoping!
(02-23-2022, 09:07 PM)Dirknows Wrote: [ -> ]He is. Unfortunately it took him about 3 months to get to that level. Kinda feels like he’s learned his lesson and will come into the season in shape from now on, well here’s to hoping!

Luka has improved each and single season. This season Luka is by far the best Luka to date. Every season he has added elements to his game. He is a player that adapts to any situation that he can control. The only thing he can't adapt to is injuries, viruses and overload from too many games - otherwise the way I see Luka: what is in his control, he controls it and adapts incredibly. Most impressive is gis in game adjustments from different schemes he has seen.
(02-23-2022, 09:07 PM)Dirknows Wrote: [ -> ]He is. Unfortunately it took him about 3 months to get to that level. Kinda feels like he’s learned his lesson and will come into the season in shape from now on, well here’s to hoping!
I think this is where the crux of the counter argument comes into play. The 3 months getting here was riddled with injuries and COVID (not as bad as last year’s version, but still a sickness that needs recovery time). It didn’t START that way which is where the chicken or egg conversation begins. Had Luka come into the season at least at his playing weight and only slightly out of shape, he hits the ground running at the beginning of the season and looks like Luka now. Does that in shape and at the correct weight (with the extra energy and healing) Luka get as injured as he did? If he does, does the diet heal him faster at a rate that it bothers him less to the effect that he comes back the same as before?

No one seems to be budging from their side if the argument, so it is at this point beating a dead horse to continue on with it. Only thing that can happen from here is someone loses their temper over it and we have another board meltdown. I’m not “moderating” this discussion other than to say, can this discussion please end? Everyone just be the bigger man snd stop talking about it.

Fact of the matter is there is a good chance Luka is done with that stage of his career and it looks like all sides are happy about that!

Edit: Sorry, in re-reading I noticed I didn’t spend much if any time on the one side of the argument. 

Absolutely! Luka was bothered by injuries and sickness throughout the 3 months to get here. There is no question that was a huge part of the issue!
Glad to see we didn't trade him for SGA and draft picks Smile


We dont really know the impact of Cuban always talking about things like this in public.  One segment of fans will say he has every right to do it as an owner.  One segment of fans will say imagine if Dolan said this.  That's why no one considers Dallas in free agency.  The truth is probably somewhere in between. 

I wasn't taken aback by this recent round of Cuban comments but I also don't think there's anything positive to be gained by the comments other than Cuban liking to hear himself talk ala Jerry Jones.  He needs constant attention.  How often does Steve Ballmer talk about Kawhi or Paul George injuries?
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(02-24-2022, 01:16 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/iztok_franko/status/...5033083920

Thanks for posting. It's great to see the isolated plays and how it all works together.

I have to admit, despite the different entry techniques, it all looks the same to my unsophisticated eyes in the end. DP has ball above the FT circle while JB screens for Luka coming out and around for the handoff who then circles down the opposite side of the lane for a layup, floater or alley oop. Seems to happen mostly moving left to right. Is there a reason for that?
(02-24-2022, 11:42 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]
Thank you for this. 

Lots of domination with the spread PnR/PnP, spanish PnR/PnP and handoffs 

Interesting note on how we’re playing Luka defensively this year. The video shows him being used in the paint more using his body for paint protection. The team defense has been excellent
(02-24-2022, 01:16 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/iztok_franko/status/...5033083920

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(02-24-2022, 02:01 PM)michaeltex Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for posting. It's great to see the isolated plays and how it all works together.

I have to admit, despite the different entry techniques, it all looks the same to my unsophisticated eyes in the end. DP has ball above the FT circle while JB screens for Luka coming out and around for the handoff who then circles down the opposite side of the lane for a layup, floater or alley oop. Seems to happen mostly moving left to right. Is there a reason for that?

Just a guess...
Pretty sure Luka prefers to shoot moving left...
If you intentionally create movement left to right it puts Luka in his preferred shooting action IF the help/switch defender sags or overplays and the primary defender goes under the screen.
Lets Luka stop and pop in his preferred direction in addition to the other P_& R options -  Can they run it flipped, sure and would look to see it when another guard is running the action.