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Fuuuuuu thanks for the correction

And I’m never going to get over Brogdon.
(11-12-2019, 07:12 PM)sefant Wrote: [ -> ]Lebron 20.9
Luka 19.1
Westbrook 16.8
Harden 16.1
Brogdon 16.0


These are potential assists, raw so to speak.

Luka averages 9.1 assists per game....so 10.0 potential assists NOT converted. 

Lebron averages 11.0 assists per game....so 9.9 potential assists NOT converted. 

So Luka IS first in potential assists NOT converted.....right?
Ok that’s what I thought but I’m on my phone.
Never been a fan of the potential assists stat. It's no surprise the guys ranked so high are the ones with the ball in their hands the most. You may conclude Luka has scrubs around him but what about LeBron, Harden, Westbrook, etc.? 

It assumes the player is supposed to make the shot but there's no context in the actual shot being taken. It also includes if player draws a shooting foul but again maybe the foul wasn't really a foul, and so on. 

Pass to guy who misses a contested shot but it goes down as a "potential" assist. Pass to guy who makes a contested shot but it goes down as an actual assist. It's a failsafe stat for playmakers.
well Danny Green and Eric Gordon are in a slump do the lakers and rockets supporting cast sucks
http://twitter.com/townbrad/status/11946...69024?s=20

Doesn't embed somehow...

Doncic on Porzingis

“We’ve got to stick together. I’m going to help him out. The players are going to help him out. The coaches. Everybody’s got his back. We’re just going to get through this as a team.”


“We’ve got to stick together. I’m going to help him out. The players are going to help him out. The coaches. Everybody’s got his back. We’re just going to get through this as a team.”
(11-12-2019, 08:31 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]well Danny Green and Eric Gordon are in a slump do the lakers and rockets supporting cast sucks

along with the coach obviously...and the front office
(11-13-2019, 05:10 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]along with the coach obviously...and the front office


To be fair, there are different posters with these takes, not the same ones afaik.
(11-13-2019, 05:34 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-13-2019, 05:10 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]along with the coach obviously...and the front office


To be fair, there are different posters with these takes, not the same ones afaik.

for sure

I just have a problem kicking my years old habit of complaining about complaining 

I'll try to stop...again
(11-13-2019, 05:37 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-13-2019, 05:34 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-13-2019, 05:10 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]along with the coach obviously...and the front office


To be fair, there are different posters with these takes, not the same ones afaik.

for sure

I just have a problem kicking my years old habit of complaining about complaining 

I'll try to stop...again

I feel like you even see things as complaining that aren't even complaints.
(11-13-2019, 05:42 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote: [ -> ]I feel like you even see things as complaining that aren't even complaints.


stop complaining about me!








;-)
(11-13-2019, 05:47 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-13-2019, 05:42 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote: [ -> ]I feel like you even see things as complaining that aren't even complaints.


stop complaining about me!








;-)

I see your smiley, but just for your information. This also wasn't a complaint Wink
Boban for 24ur.com on Lukas impact on mavs:

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Quick translation:

"I have no idea about Luka. I don't know him (laughs) ... I'm kidding," the Serbian center joked at first in his typical entertainment style, then stared. "Indeed, as you said before, we play so well because of Luka. Luka holds this team together," he told our US correspondent.

"He works phenomenally, I don't know, we all wonder how he succeeds. Not even we who are with him all the time don't know this. We can just take off our hats and show great respect for what he does. Wish him to stay a good guy and a good player, "Boban Marjanovic explained after the Boston-Dallas game.

Boban legend...
(11-12-2019, 07:59 PM)Fuerza1 Wrote: [ -> ]Never been a fan of the potential assists stat. It's no surprise the guys ranked so high are the ones with the ball in their hands the most. You may conclude Luka has scrubs around him but what about LeBron, Harden, Westbrook, etc.? 

It's again the chicken and the egg question, that was mentioned earlier. Yes the guys that rank high there, are the ones with the ball in their hands the most. However, those very same guys, are the ones that are so exceptionally good with the ball, so considerably better than anyone else on the team, that they get green light to do it, from their respective coaches. It's no wonder that they are the ones assisting the best, since their passing skills are the best. It's the reason they find most guys open. It is also no coincidence that those teams perform well usually, since they have a superstar with that kind of ability. Our roster doesn't include one player that would be a good starter on an average NBA team, not named Luka. You can argue that Wright or Kleber have performed to that standard, but that can be discussed. Nevertheless even in the West we have a very good start.

I think stats are one thing, another thing is watching the games. The Boston game. It was clear that Luka consistently found open players from start to finish, wide open looks really, looks that Cuban would have made them at a better percentage than some of our players. Those are clear cut potential assists, I'd like to have a name for those, it could be something else. They just couldn't make the shots and that costed the game, perhaps number one reason for that really. As long as we are finding so many open looks, I'm fine with the strategy, whatever it is.
(11-13-2019, 05:48 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-13-2019, 05:47 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-13-2019, 05:42 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote: [ -> ]I feel like you even see things as complaining that aren't even complaints.


stop complaining about me!








;-)

I see your smiley, but just for your information. This also wasn't a complaint Wink

I hate when people say complaining, it really makes me want to complain!
(11-13-2019, 04:57 PM)SportPsychMav Wrote: [ -> ]http://twitter.com/townbrad/status/11946...69024?s=20

Doesn't embed somehow...

Doncic on Porzingis

“We’ve got to stick together. I’m going to help him out. The players are going to help him out. The coaches. Everybody’s got his back. We’re just going to get through this as a team.”


“We’ve got to stick together. I’m going to help him out. The players are going to help him out. The coaches. Everybody’s got his back. We’re just going to get through this as a team.”

This dude is something else. He speaks like a vet and is continuing the awesome locker room culture Dirk established and putting his own twist on it. Apparently this was translated from an EU publication, and a Mavs EU twitter account posted a more accurate translation of what Luka said:  "He will get better for sure. I will help him out and the team and he will for sure get better. We all will get together through this, for sure". 

Don't know how accurate that is but either way BOTH quotes are great to see and makes me giddy for the future.

(11-12-2019, 06:26 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]Luka leads the league in potential assists not converted into actual assists because of the scrubs around him.

Its funny, even last year Luka could've been averaging close to 10apg instead of the 6 because of the lack of shot makers around him.

This year he could be averaging close to 15!!! Mavs have to find ONE consistent shot maker around to punish defenses. THJ and Courtney Lee are not going to cut it.
(11-13-2019, 05:37 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]for sure

I just have a problem kicking my years old habit of complaining about complaining 

I'll try to stop...again


I don't think you need to, complaining about complaining is a good way to stop the snowball. I hate the snowball with a passion. Leads to very dumbed down discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93KkhMbI3uE

According to Bill Simmons in the 10 Game Awards Podcast they did?

There are only two people up for MVP in the league so far:

Giannis and Luka... then he goes on to argue why Luka is in the convo