So, here's a statement and 3 questions from a caveman regarding medical knowledge.
It seems like this injury shouldn't be a "play if you feel up to it" kind of injury. An MRI should show whether there is a tare, correct? If there is a tare, then he shouldn't play, correct? If he's riding a bike then maybe they know he doesn't have a tare??? Maybe?
Mongo says if shoe fit, play.
(04-13-2022, 10:35 AM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]So, here's a statement and 3 questions from a caveman regarding medical knowledge.
It seems like this injury shouldn't be a "play if you feel up to it" kind of injury. An MRI should show whether there is a tare, correct? If there is a tare, then he shouldn't play, correct? If he's riding a bike then maybe they know he doesn't have a tare??? Maybe?
That sounds logical to me and is what I'm hoping for - but I'm a caveman too with medical knowledge, so I'm in the same boat as you.
What's the source that he was riding a bike? I saw that mentioned but must have missed where it originated from.
(04-13-2022, 08:39 AM)sefant Wrote: [ -> ]He did stationary bike apparantly. Not a calf medical expert, but sounds way too little early to do that, even for a minor grade 1.
Tho it might be a go figure moment.
(04-13-2022, 11:13 AM)Jmaciscool Wrote: [ -> ]That sounds logical to me and is what I'm hoping for - but I'm a caveman too with medical knowledge, so I'm in the same boat as you.
Ditto.
What's the source that he was riding a bike? I saw that mentioned but must have missed where it originated from.
See above.
(04-13-2022, 11:13 AM)Jmaciscool Wrote: [ -> ]but I'm a caveman too
cool
meet for roast mammoth leg and compare stone work
I might be totally misremembering something I learned in an biomechanics class (it's been like 2 years) so take this with a grain of salt but I believe biking is a good way to strengthen calf muscles without having to fully engage them as they're mainly used to balance you on the bike.
As in this is the one exercise Luka can do safely without hurting himself further. And if anything it's going to help in his recovery since he's on a stationary bike with no shift in terrain so there isn't much balancing needed here.
Again take this with a grain of salt I have shit memory.
Hmmm, I’m in the same boat as all of you as far as medical knowledge. Just seems like rest and keeping the leg up helps circulation which is what helps healing. I guess I’m wrong, cause there is Luka, riding a bike.
Also, getting to and from the practice facility, boot or not, requires more than what it seems should happen.
(04-13-2022, 11:32 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://bicycle2work.com/cycling-with-a-calf-strain
Very interesting:
"A calf strain manages to be both painful and annoying in equal measure. It can hurt, but sometimes not as much as other strains, and yet it has this amazing ability to restrict your movement in so many ways.
But here’s the big question for us cycling nuts – can you cycle with a calf strain?
You should not cycle with a calf strain, as this can antagonize the injury, and lead to a much longer period off your bike than if you rested. The medical solution to a calf strain is relatively simple – rest, ice, and patience.
Of course, there are different levels of calf strains and different stages of injury."
(04-13-2022, 11:45 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]I might be totally misremembering something I learned in an biomechanics class (it's been like 2 years) so take this with a grain of salt but I believe biking is a good way to strengthen calf muscles without having to fully engage them as they're mainly used to balance you on the bike.
As in this is the one exercise Luka can do safely without hurting himself further. And if anything it's going to help in his recovery since he's on a stationary bike with no shift in terrain so there isn't much balancing needed here.
Again take this with a grain of salt I have shit memory.
If Casey Smith is really "the best head athletic trainer in the entire NBA," then he is surely an expert on "Cycling with a Calf Strain." And if athletes "should not cycle with a calf strain," then maybe Luka really just suffered a bad cramp in his calf last Sunday night.
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https://www.mavs.com/mavs-have-arguably-...sey-smith/
Cato had an extensive interview with some MD yesterday. One part basically saying that controlled movements are actually good to heal this kind of injury. In any case I am sure Mavs have top proffessionals who know very well what they are doing. The only problem really is a premature return and possible reinjury (or worse injury). Here is where risk might be taken hoping for the best. Another piece on this below in the second part. Of course with all the disclaimers they are just guessing.
[b]I was talking to my podcast cohost, Dave DuFour, who read studies on calf injuries when he suffered a similar injury. He told me the medical understanding is that this is an injury that benefits and heals from increased loads. What does that mean in this case?[/b]
You want to load in a way that is going to help benefit how the muscle is actually used. When our body lays down scar tissue to fill in the gaps of the damage that has occurred, it doesn’t necessarily do it in a way that is always organized. When you load (the muscle), you can influence those patterns.
[b]Would this get to a point where it’s an aspect of pain tolerance?[/b]
It can. The things that make some of these lower-extremity muscle injuries tricky is that once the scar tissue is down and those gaps are filled, many athletes report that they feel pretty good. As long as the medical staff feels the tissue has appropriately healed, there might be a little bit of discomfort, but what you don’t want is for the athlete to go out there prematurely with that scar tissue still not being as strong as normal muscle tissue. Then, when an athlete tries to make a normal movement, they disrupt that scar tissue. You basically press reset on the healing process.
Understanding Luka Doncic’s calf strain and recovery timeline, per an NBA injury expert – The Athletic
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(04-13-2022, 11:59 AM)Hogmelon Wrote: [ -> ]Very interesting:
"A calf strain manages to be both painful and annoying in equal measure. It can hurt, but sometimes not as much as other strains, and yet it has this amazing ability to restrict your movement in so many ways.
But here’s the big question for us cycling nuts – can you cycle with a calf strain?
You should not cycle with a calf strain, as this can antagonize the injury, and lead to a much longer period off your bike than if you rested. The medical solution to a calf strain is relatively simple – rest, ice, and patience.
Of course, there are different levels of calf strains and different stages of injury."
If Casey Smith is really "the best head athletic trainer in the entire NBA," then he is surely an expert on "Cycling with a Calf Strain." And if athletes "should not cycle with a calf strain," then maybe Luka really just suffered a bad cramp in his calf last Sunday night.
CONSPIRACY THEORISTS ... UNITE!!!
https://www.mavs.com/mavs-have-arguably-...sey-smith/
The fact that they said "icing" tells me they don't know what they are talking about. Icing for sprains and strains has been shown to slow down healing.
Also Luka is technically not "riding a bike", he's sitting on an stationary bike ergometer. On a real bike, you have to push with a certain force to actually move and this force is depending on environment/road inclincation. A stationary bike can be set to almost no resistance, in this case it becomes a device to guide a certain leg movement that requires little power to execute.
Watch this be an intentional leak and he actually ends up suiting up on Saturday. I have fully bought into the conspiracy.