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How much of his problems could be explained by using a new ball design?....
(11-12-2021, 11:41 AM)ClutchDirk Wrote: [ -> ]How much of his problems could be explained by using a new ball design?....

I've wondered on this myself. I've seen it mentioned in other articles here and there.

At least it's still leather right now and not synthetic like the previous ball change fiasco.

But if the feel is different, does that change the shooting performance? They would have had the new balls for training camp and even pre-training camp work, wouldn't they?
(11-12-2021, 11:41 AM)ClutchDirk Wrote: [ -> ]How much of his problems could be explained by using a new ball design?....


Percentages are down accross the league and there were two changes this offseason. Ball change and rules change. Some claim it has more to do with rules, some perhaps blaim the ball. I guess NBA can't really go publicly that ball is the cause as some might understand as ball is not good. I think Wilson is not paying a lot of money for these kind of statements.
(11-12-2021, 08:33 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: [ -> ]Missed shots are just another way of turning the ball over.  If you give the ball back to the other team 66% of the time like in the last game because you shoot 33% from the field, you were definitely stopped. Basketball is just a possession by possession game.  The team with the highest conversion percentage wins, almost all the time. Luka’s shooting percentages have been bad this year and he shoots a lot, which is why the team performs so poorly when he’s in the game.  The question is why.  Is it something about Luka or is it the scheme, or maybe, a little of both.

You can compare a missed shot to a turnover, but they're not exactly the same. A turnover has a 0% chance of going in the basket. A shot has a much higher than 0% chance of going in. But it's certainly true that poor shooting lowers your conversion per possession rate, just not nearly as much as a turnover.

(11-12-2021, 10:50 AM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]Missed shots actually aren't the same thing as turnovers.


Ha ha!! should have read this and then I wouldn't have had to post.
If what Kidd is trying to do doesnt' work...

Luka thinks about how he gets along with Kidd better than Rick. Then he reflects on how much harder playing basketball is with a team that creates no space. Luka decides it's better to have space to play basketball than to have a buddy as a coach. Luka then cries in his pillow and dreams of the old days with mean Rick.
(11-12-2021, 01:37 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]If what Kidd is trying to do doesnt' work...

Luka thinks about how he gets along with Kidd better than Rick. Then he reflects on how much harder playing basketball is with a team that creates no space. Luka decides it's better to have space to play basketball than to have a buddy as a coach. Luka then cries is his pillow and dreams of the old days with mean Rick.

LOL
(11-12-2021, 08:33 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: [ -> ]Luka’s shooting percentages have been bad this year and he shoots a lot, which is why the team performs so poorly when he’s in the game.


One tangible thing I've noticed a lot this year (haven't tracked it, but I feel like I've seen it a lot) is the chain of events that follows:

1) Luka gets the big switched onto him.

2) Luka takes a "meh" shot from midrange or from 3. The kind we know he can make, but sometimes doesn't.

3) The shot is missed, and because Luka was guarded by the opposing big, and because all of Luka's teammates are crashing the paint (offensive glass), rather than focusing on transition defense (might be the biggest philosophy change from last regime to this one, so far), Luka (not exactly the team's most aware early-possession defender, especially after HE misses a shot) is left in a 1-on-1 transition D situation with the opposing big. 

4) Luka either doesn't bother to try to get back to prevent the long outlet, tries but doesn't have the experience to take the long outlet angle away or tries but cannot guard properly in that situation because he's not the guy you want committing fouls in that situation (obviously). 

This, to me, is a coaching concern. Carlisle used to routinely outdo opponents when it came to little details like this. So far, Kidd has seemed like the lesser-experienced coach in most of these games (because he is, of course).
(11-12-2021, 03:12 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]This, to me, is a coaching concern. Carlisle used to routinely outdo opponents when it came to little details like this. So far, Kidd has seemed like the lesser-experienced coach in most of these games (because he is, of course).
I agree with what you said.


I will point out that Kidd is not on an island and has a team of assistants that should be paying attention to any details he misses.
(11-12-2021, 03:30 PM)michaeltex Wrote: [ -> ]I will point out that Kidd is not on an island and has a team of assistants that should be paying attention to any details he misses.


ab-so-freaking-lutely
Another data point:

Luka looked MUCH better in the game against SAS. He was +6, which was nice, but the starting lineup still sucked, seemingly holding him back from a bigger positive. The team was +8 when Luka was on the bench.
(11-12-2021, 11:55 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Another data point:

Luka looked MUCH better in the game against SAS. He was +6, which was nice, but the starting lineup still sucked, seemingly holding him back from a bigger positive. The team was +8 when Luka was on the bench.

Those numbers were skewed a bit by having 12 minutes of garbage time
(11-13-2021, 12:07 AM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]Those numbers were skewed a bit by having 12 minutes of garbage time


Yeah, they got lazy at that point. He was +15 through three quarters, then was -9 in the 4th.
(11-12-2021, 11:55 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Another data point:

Luka looked MUCH better in the game against SAS. He was +6, which was nice, but the starting lineup still sucked, seemingly holding him back from a bigger positive. The team was +8 when Luka was on the bench.

This was the first time all season that I thought Luka actually looked Luka. First 11 games it honestly looked to me like he was playing at about 75% (at best), but this game he looked fully engaged.

(and actual chemistry with Porzingis to boot)
(11-13-2021, 01:58 AM)Arioch Wrote: [ -> ]This was the first time all season that I thought Luka actually looked Luka. First 11 games it honestly looked to me like he was playing at about 75% (at best), but this game he looked fully engaged.

(and actual chemistry with Porzingis to boot)


AMEN.
(11-13-2021, 01:58 AM)Arioch Wrote: [ -> ]This was the first time all season that I thought Luka actually looked Luka. First 11 games it honestly looked to me like he was playing at about 75% (at best), but this game he looked fully engaged.

(and actual chemistry with Porzingis to boot)

I loved how he fed KP after KP got a block.  In the first half, KP blocked Young and got the rebound.   I wonder if Luka told him in spanish that get ready because I am giving you the ball down the court.   Luka gave KP the ball for a top of the three attempt that he made.    In the second half, KP blocked another player and then Luka fed him with a cross court pass for a three that missed but Luka was clearly looking for him.  When KP makes a great play on defense, look for him on the next possession.   Small things like that can do wonders.