(06-10-2021, 11:17 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I strongly feel like the way these guys interact with teammates, work with their organizations and commit to team goals are a HUGE part of how their value is perceived around the league. I think your first sentence is very likely EXTREMELY misguided.
And, pointing out the positives of being a good teammate, employee, person, team-culture guy isn't the same as claiming it's ok to overpay for that.
A person is not a car. A person's attitude about what goals you're trying to accomplish, as well as how effectively they can work with others to accomplish them, play a large part in determining how successful they/you will be. A car is a inanimate piece of machinery that does only what it was designed to do.
Jimmy Butler, Rajon Rondo, Marcus Morris etc. there are attitude guys all over the league, always have been, always will be. The smart FOs figure out who has on court value and figure out the attitude issues when they're there.
(06-10-2021, 11:17 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]A person is not a car. A person's attitude about what goals you're trying to accomplish, as well as how effectively they can work with others to accomplish them, play a large part in determining how successful they/you will be. A car is a inanimate piece of machinery that does only what it was designed to do.
That car salesman does his best to make sure you're meeting your needs too. If you aren't careful, you're driving out with most all your wants and things you could care less about. You're not negotiating with a car, you're negotiating with the salesman.
(06-10-2021, 11:11 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]Man, I shutter to think what some of you guys pay for cars and things that require negotiation.
You are totally out of line here. We are providing estimations here, not handling negotiations. I sure expect GM to negotiate.
(06-10-2021, 10:29 AM)vfromlmf Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't THJ just this team's version of JET?
Tim is taller and better defensively; Terry had a better handle.
Otherwise they're essentially the same player, no?
I agree with the premise, except that JET was more of the 6th man who often finished games. They both have the ability to get red hot or go ice cold without notice. They are both good guys who are well liked by Mavs fans.
Personally, I wouldn't mind THJ going back to the bench full time, but that means an upgrade over himself and JRich. Not sure who that would be. Ideally, Green can find a shot this summer and start taking on that role, but that's just day dreaming.
Mark Cuban speaks to the Daily Beast on the series and the offseason.
Highlights --
What went wrong with the playoff run?
Our role players didn't make their threes, and we had plenty of open looks in Game 7. We did a great job on Kawhi. You pick your poison. If Luke Kennard is gonna beat us, he's gonna beat us. And he beat us.
Beef between Luka and KP?
Doesn't exist. On the court, they have good chemistry. We just used KP as a decoy. That was the idea -- get more space for Luka because it was so crowded. KP did a great job doing everything we asked him to do. Our role players just didn't make shots.
That's a pretty expensive decoy.
I'm fine with that. Not everyone can be a decoy. If we had other players who could be a decoy, we would have used them.
What does this roster need to contend?
A secondary ball handler with some size. KP will spread the court, make threes, cut, and block shots. Luka will create. We've got shooters with Tim and Trey and Maxi and others. We need someone to take the pressure off Luka, so that instead of him having to have the ball in his hands for 40 minutes, it could be 32 minutes. That's what we need.
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(06-10-2021, 02:58 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]What does this roster need to contend?
A secondary ball handler with some size. KP will spread the court, make threes, cut, and block shots. Luka will create. We've got shooters with Tim and Trey and Maxi and others.
So not Kemba. Got it.
And if one reads the tea leaves of his player name checks, I wouldn’t get too comfortable if I’m Brunson and DFS. Someone of quality has to go to get that good player in return.
(06-10-2021, 03:07 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]DeRozan love detected.
DeRozan, Lonzo, Dinwiddie
All fit that mold. Lowry kind of fits too given that he's bigger (wider) than most guards.
(06-10-2021, 03:07 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]DeRozan love detected.
He is probably most available FA that fits the description. Shams actually also mentioned trade possibility. Personally, I would be ok if they resign THJ and sign DeRozan. Nothing spectacular but totally possible nothing spectacular really is on the table.
(06-10-2021, 03:10 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn’t get too comfortable if I’m Brunson and DFS. Someone of quality has to go to get that good player in return.
Brunson, Kleber, DFS, Burke, Richardson all are on the block.
Especially given how Cubes reiterated that the Clips role players beat our own role players. No mention of KP being lackluster or whatever. Just saying it was by design. Makes me think there's no way KP gets traded.
(06-10-2021, 02:58 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]What does this roster need to contend?
A secondary ball handler with some size. KP will spread the court, make threes, cut, and block shots. Luka will create. We've got shooters with Tim and Trey and Maxi and others. We need someone to take the pressure off Luka, so that instead of him having to have the ball in his hands for 40 minutes, it could be 32 minutes. That's what we need.
Not many available Mark. In FA I think it's Dinwiddie, Ball or DeRozan. Via trade I think there are even less realistic options. Dragic/McCollum?
Quite interesting though. Despite several shortcomings the offense was not really a problem, defense was. Coach speaks about rugged defenders (never mentions creators) and owner speaks about secondary creators. So which one is it?
(06-10-2021, 03:12 PM)HAguiar95 Wrote: [ -> ]Not many available Mark. In FA I think it's Dinwiddie, Ball or DeRozan. Via trade I think there are even less realistic options. Dragic/McCollum?
I imagine Brogdon will be high on the wish list if Indiana decides to shake things up.
(06-10-2021, 03:11 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]He is probably most available FA that fits the description. Shams actually also mentioned trade possibility. Personally, I would be ok if they resign THJ and sign DeRozan. Nothing spectacular but totally possible nothing spectacular really is on the table.
That would fix some of our issues, and Derozan is my # 1 option despite the fit not being great. True, our frontcourt would still be mismatch of parts. And would really be limited if we were without a healthy KP of any of our big man being counted on to score.
Sure, Derozan is not great as a defender but he would certainly create additional stress for defenses.
I just don't know if there is enough money for both Hardaway and Derozan. Plus, there is difficult sell job getting Hardaway excited about bringing in a guy who will probably take some crunch time minutes form him.
(06-10-2021, 03:19 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]I just don't know if there is enough money for both Hardaway and Derozan.
Likely not straight up. SnT though makes it possible.
(06-10-2021, 03:19 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ] Plus, there is difficult sell job getting Hardaway excited about bringing in a guy who will probably take some crunch time minutes form him.
It would be interesting to see if Mavs actually tried to roll out Luka-THJ-DFS-DeRozan-KP lineup. DeRozan played PF at SA and Luka is also big enough to handle most PF. If DeRozan is the only non shooter, offense would still work well. Defense is of course another issue.
(06-10-2021, 03:12 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Cubes reiterated that the Clips role players beat our own role players. No mention of KP being lackluster or whatever. Just saying it was by design. Makes me think there's no way KP gets traded.
Really, one could summarize his comments as --
Aside from a secondary playmaker with size, all that is needed is role players who can make shots when the pressure is on.
(06-10-2021, 03:23 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Likely not straight up. SnT though makes it possible.
It would be interesting to see if Mavs actually tried to roll out Luka-THJ-DFS-DeRozan-KP lineup. DeRozan played PF at SA and Luka is also big enough to handle most PF. If DeRozan is the only non shooter, offense would still work well. Defense is of course another issue.
This isn't a knock on Josh Green. As I think he has a chance to turn into a good player, maybe even better than Bey. Although he is quite a bit behind right now and Bey was better I thought he would be. But I just replace Hardaway with Saddiq Bey in that lineup and that could very well be a championship finishing 5 if KP got right. Throw in Hardaway, Brunson, Maxi to fill in and.......
Mavs are saying the right things regarding KP. A public divorce like Kemba situation would totally kill any value he might have and the only solution would be to dump him for a bad player on a bit less bad contract. Like Kemba.
This way things are open. Someone might bite with a halfway decent offer or Mavs-KP try to make it work.
Still don´t get how another negative defender is going to help the Mavs. 21st ranked defense. 9th offense. Even against the Clippers the Mavs had a really good O-Rating. Instead of trying to fix a good offense. Can we talk about the glaring hole on defense. Mavs just played a playoff series and allowed the opponent to shoot 70% in the paint. Tried to limit the damage and played zone. Gave up 45% from 3.
The Mavs lost a playoff game despite all time great offensive numbers. They shot 20/39 from three. That´s a new record by the way. First time ever that a team lost with 20+ 3s made on 50%+ shooting.
(06-10-2021, 03:28 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]Still don´t get how another negative defender is going to help the Mavs.
I think you can't cover all the holes in one season. Player like DeRozan on a decent contract still raises the ceiling and provides options. Of course DeRozan is our guess, we have no idea if he really is a target.
(06-10-2021, 03:12 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Brunson, Kleber, DFS, Burke, Richardson all are on the block.
Especially given how Cubes reiterated that the Clips role players beat our own role players. No mention of KP being lackluster or whatever. Just saying it was by design. Makes me think there's no way KP gets traded.
DFS being on the block for nearly anyone in the league (as I said before, aside from about 14 guys in the whole league plus several who aren't going to be available unless we offer Luka) would be nearly as bad as KP not being on the block.