(07-01-2022, 11:59 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]Right now I am clinging to the hope that the addition of McGee sets up a trade that features Powell.
Holy crap, can you imagine them using the
entire TPMLE to get a backup 5 because their existing $10-11 million backup 5 isn't good enough, and keeping both of them on the roster?
Or, even worse, by far: can you imagine them thinking that McGee/Powell (in any order) at the 5, with Wood/Kleber (in any order) at the 4 is a good plan for the season?
If either one of those things proves to the be the situation, this off-season will probably be my least favorite in the history of my fandom.
I just can't believe they're that clueless. I can't. So, I doubt either of those is the plan.
(07-01-2022, 12:04 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Holy crap, can you imagine them using the entire TPMLE to get a backup 5 because their existing $10-11 million backup 5 isn't good enough, and keeping both of them on the roster?
Or, even worse, by far: can you imagine them thinking that McGee/Powell (in any order) at the 5, with Wood/Kleber (in any order) at the 4 is a good plan for the season?
If either one of those things proves to the be the situation, this off-season will probably be my least favorite in the history of my fandom.
I just can't believe they're that clueless. I can't. So, I doubt either of those is the plan.
See we are all not that different. We have been battered by our abusive partner a dozen times. Neither of us can leave him/her, but I know there will be another beating, while you still have hope there won´t be another disappointment.
And any acceptance of the Mavericks’ version of events—that they were somehow not given the chance to negotiate with a player on their roster—leads down corridors that make the team look bad.
It's why I'm so disappointed in Nico. He's new to being a GM but far from new at the relationship and negotiation game.
(07-01-2022, 01:05 PM)Fuerza1 Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/2022/07...mavericks/
Right on point. I am done giving the front office any benefit of the doubt. To be honest, I have given them way too much leeway the past 10 years. Until they show otherwise, I think it is prudent to think of them as not good enough. Names and faces have changed, but the results are still the same.
Again, this offseason feels like another mad scramble. It feels like this every year. Most years they are able to salvage things and get back to previous years level. But Luka isn't Dirk. It can't be this mad scramble every year where we look at the roster and think it is not good enough.
(07-01-2022, 01:22 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Right on point. I am done giving the front office any benefit of the doubt. To be honest, I have given them way too much leeway the past 10 years. Until they show otherwise, I think it is prudent to think of them as not good enough. Names and faces have changed, but the results are still the same.
Again, this offseason feels like another mad scramble. It feels like this every year. Most years they are able to salvage things and get back to previous years level. But Luka isn't Dirk. It can't be this mad scramble every year where we look at the roster and think it is not good enough.
Not good enough is too chartable. Our front office is bottom of the barrel and a lot of that has been covered up by going from one all time great player to another.
I’ve been in the process of moving cross country over the past 2 days and finally have a chance to catch my breath. I don’t have time to read everything now, but I’m gonna put my thoughts out there.
Losing JB like this is disastrous. We are so asset poor, so to just let one of our best ones evaporate is such a stupid move. I said last summer to either lock JB up or trade him, cause the last thing we could do was let him walk for nothing. It probably wouldn’t have even taken a max available offer then (I believe I threw out numbers of starting between $6-8M annually). Then not to extend him during the season if it was really an option.
Imagine having Brunson on that bargain contract to trade while KD wants out. Clock is ticking on Luka.
(07-01-2022, 01:08 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]And any acceptance of the Mavericks’ version of events—that they were somehow not given the chance to negotiate with a player on their roster—leads down corridors that make the team look bad.
It's why I'm so disappointed in Nico. He's new to being a GM but far from new at the relationship and negotiation game.
Nico is a recruiter not a retainer.
Just to mention it. Unless I missed somebody Brunson is literally the only player that changed teams in free agency that got a contract above the MLE.
(07-01-2022, 06:34 PM)DrMav Wrote: [ -> ]I’ve been in the process of moving cross country over the past 2 days and finally have a chance to catch my breath. I don’t have time to read everything now, but I’m gonna put my thoughts out there.
Losing JB like this is disastrous. We are so asset poor, so to just let one of our best ones evaporate is such a stupid move. I said last summer to either lock JB up or trade him, cause the last thing we could do was let him walk for nothing. It probably wouldn’t have even taken a max available offer then (I believe I threw out numbers of starting between $6-8M annually). Then not to extend him during the season if it was really an option.
Imagine having Brunson on that bargain contract to trade while KD wants out. Clock is ticking on Luka.
Just admit it now, and get it over with: You went back to the Buffalo Wild Wings and caused our Mavs to lose Brunson, didn't you?
I bet Cuban is so relieved he doesn't have to worry about a huge tax bill
What I really want to know is if the Brunson camp really requested an extension before the TDL.
If there was, and Nico didn't bother with it, then Nico gets a HUGE thumbs down from me.
(07-01-2022, 10:03 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: [ -> ]What I really want to know is if the Brunson camp really requested an extension before the TDL.
If there was, and Nico didn't bother with it, then Nico gets a HUGE thumbs down from me.
So let me ask you this...if you knew the player was worth more and didnt want to rip him off or make him feel as if he was being taken advantage of...do you offer the contract anyway in the best interest of the Mavs even at risk of upsetting the player?
Guys on the Ticket made a good point about the sequence of events post January. If JB was willing to reach out to the Mavs begging to sign a 4/55 or 5/55 contract...why were all these scouts at the Mavs game with Rick Brunson sitting with Leon supposedly just 2 months later?
Seems like Jb's family has known that Knicks would be offering far more for his services way before January. I mean...JB's legal God Father is running the Knicks and that guys son is JB's agent. Why would JB be begging Mavs for the 4/55 or 5/55? It doesnt add up.
Jake(?) from the Ticket thinks Rick Brunson is lying about the extension story. I assume hes talking about the April news story on Brunson and the article has quotes from Rick Brunson about JB's price skyrocketing and there are "No Discounts" for JB and his services now.
Something isnt adding up for sure. But if you are Head Honcho...do you offer the 4/55 and hope the player signs so you have him controlled....or do you not offer and risk losing an asset for nothing?
Seems like Mavs were just in a bad situation. Offer the contract and upset player. Dont offer it and the asset leaves.
There were two massive mistakes with Brunson. The first was the awful contract by Donnie. The second was not extending or trading him in the 2021 offseason.
(07-01-2022, 11:26 PM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: [ -> ]So let me ask you this...if you knew the player was worth more and didnt want to rip him off or make him feel as if he was being taken advantage of...do you offer the contract anyway in the best interest of the Mavs even at risk of upsetting the player?
I can’t imagine how it would be very upsetting to say something along the lines of, “we value you here and want you to be around for a long time, so we would like to offer you the most we possibly can right now. We understand if you want to look for more in free agency.”
Could JB have regrets later about leaving money on the table? Sure, but I don’t think it should lead to resentment.
Mavs should have sniffed this out better, IMO it’s been decided for awhile. The Rick Brunson comments in the playoffs were likely fabricated to start leaving a trail of breadcrumbs that could be followed to avoid tampering charges.
(07-01-2022, 11:26 PM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: [ -> ]Guys on the Ticket made a good point about the sequence of events post January. If JB was willing to reach out to the Mavs begging to sign a 4/55 or 5/55 contract...why were all these scouts at the Mavs game with Rick Brunson sitting with Leon supposedly just 2 months later?
Seems like Jb's family has known that Knicks would be offering far more for his services way before January. I mean...JB's legal God Father is running the Knicks and that guys son is JB's agent. Why would JB be begging Mavs for the 4/55 or 5/55? It doesnt add up.
Jake(?) from the Ticket thinks Rick Brunson is lying about the extension story.
As early as December the $80mm number was floating around and it was clear by then Brunson would make at least that much. So, no way he takes the $55mm. Yeah, I think Rick is lying. No one wants to be the bad guy and sometimes you have to invent things so you can be the victim and the other party can be the bad guy. What he said and she said from January on is of no interest to me as it was never going to happen.
To me, the more interesting question is whether Dallas offered or should have offered the deal before the season.
